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MINUTES
SPECIAL -JOINT MEETING OF THE
CITY COUNCILS AND
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF
SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY
Thursday, January 8,1998
7:00 p.m. — Regular Session
Atascadero Lake Park Pavilion
9315 Pismo Ave.
Atascadero, California
SPECIAL JOINT MEETING: 7:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Carden
Mayor Carden, Atascadero, called the Special Joint Meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Color Presentation and Pledge of Allegiance led by Boy Scout
Troop #155, sponsored by the Atascadero Knights of Columbus.
ROLL CALL:
City o Arroyo Grande
City ofAtascadero
City of Grover Beach
Mayor A. K. "Pete" Dougall
Mayor Harold L. Carden, 111
Mayor Dee Santos
Michael Lady
Ray Johnson
Robert Reed
Michael Fuller
George Luna
Henry E. "Gene" Gates
Thomas A. Runels
Jerry L. Clay, Sr.
Peter Keith
Steve Tolley
Kenneth Lerno
Ronald Arnoldsen
City of Morro Bay
City of Paso Robles
City of Pismo Beach
Mayor Cathy Novak
Mayor Duane J. Picanco
Mayor John Brown
Rodger Anderson
Tom Baron
Marian Mellow
Dave Elliott
Walter J. Macklin
Hal Halldin
William Peirce
Lee Swanson
Bill Rabenaldt
Janice Peters
Christian E. Iversen
Mary Ann Reiss
Citv ofSan Luis Obispo
Mayor Allen K. Settle
Bill Roalman
Dave Romero
Dodie Williams
Kathy Smith
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Countv of San Luis Obispo
Chairwoman Ruth Brackett
Harry L. Ovitt
Bud Laurent
Peg Pinard
Mike Ryan
Marcia Torgerson, City Clerk, Atascadero, called roll. All the above-mentioned members were
present except the following:
Council Members Arnoldsen and Gates, Grover Beach; Council Members Baron, Iversen and
Swanson, Paso Robles; Council Member Roalman, San Luis Obispo; and Supervisors Brackett
and Laurent, San Luis Obispo County.
MANAGER'S /ADMINISTRATOR'S PRESENT:
Robert Hunt, Arroyo Grande; Wade McKinney, Atascadero; Tom Sullivan (Interim), Grover
Beach; David Cole, Morro Bay; James App, Paso Robles; Mike Fuson, Pismo Beach; John
Dunn, San Luis Obispo; and Clark Channing (Interim), San Luis Obispo County.
OTHERS PRESENT:
Senior clerk to the Board of Supervisors Vicki Shelby, San Luis Obispo County; City Clerk
Bonnie Gawf, San Luis Obispo; City Attorney Roy Hanley, Atascadero; and City Clerk Marcia
Torgerson; Atascadero.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
MOTION: By Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo and seconded by Council Member
Reed, Grover Beach, to approve the agenda.
Motion passed unanimously by a voice vote.
COMMUNITY FORUM:
Susan Litteral, Atascadero, Secretary of the Water Resources Advisory Committee, stated that
the Committee is working on the update to the County Master Water Plan. She stressed that it is
important that input to the Plan comes from throughout the County. She encouraged the
CouncilsBoard to actively participate in this process.
Ray Jansen, Atascadero, read excerpts of a letter that he has sent to all the Council.
Members /Supervisors. The letter expressed his concerns of how government is changing.
Peggy Wilson, Animal News Network, Oceano, spoke concerning importance of funding
spay /neuter programs. She announced that "Spay Day" begins on February 16ei and ends on
March 30''.
Dennis Schmidt, Atascadero, spoke concerning the Air Pollution Control District. He asked that
the Councils /Supervisors look at the content of the Clean Air Plan (CAP), including the goals
and policies of the CAP. Also, he noted that the CAP discriminates against projects that each of
the communities have been adopting.
—End COMMUNITY FORUM—
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Chairman Ryan, San Luis Obispo County, stated that the Board of Supervisors are very glad to.
be present tonight. He announced that the Board of Supervisors are going to participate in
discussions but will not be taking any action tonight. They will take any action that is taken here
back to the full Board and take action on. :it at a later date. He also said that has had a discussion
with Mayor Carden, Atascadero, regarding the Chairman of the Board of Supervisors attending
the Mayor's meetings and he feels this will be a positive step towards the sharing of ideas within
the County.
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ACTION ITEMS:
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[Robert Reed, Councilmember of Grover Beach, will give background]
[Allen Settle, Mayor of San Luis Obispo, will give report and present resolution]
Recommendation: Approve Joint Resolution.
Time: 30 minutes
Council Member Reed, Grover Beach, gave background information on this item.
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, stated that the purpose of this Joint Resolution is to encourage
The State Legislature to place on their agenda for this term a measure asking for the return of
these funds to cities. He explained that the Joint Resolution could be modified.
MOTION: Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, moved to approve the Joint Resolution urging
the State Legislature and the Governor to Approve Restoring of Property Taxes.
Council Member Romero, San Luis Obispo, suggested changing of title of the Joint Resolution
by eliminating "And Authorizing Restored Property Taxes" and "Such As Public Safety And
Public Works ", but leaving in "To Be Used For Local Government Needs." He also suggested
eliminating in the sixth paragraph, "such as public safety and public works construction and
maintenance." Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, agreed with the suggested amendments and asked
that his motion be amended to include them.
SECOND: Council Member Romero, San Luis Obispo, seconded the motion including the
following amendments:
1. In the title, eliminate "And Authorizing Restored Property Taxes" and
"Such As Public Safety And Public Works ", but leave in "To Be Used
For Local Government Needs. "
2. In the sixth paragraph, eliminate "such as public safety and public
works construction and maintenance. " '
Mayor Carden, Atascadero, stated that, before accepting the motion, he wanted to discuss the
letter that Chairman Ryan, San Luis Obispo County, had sent to all mayors (see Attachment A).
Supervisor Ovitt, San Luis Obispo County, read and explained portions of Chairman Ryan's
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letter as some members had not received it. He stated that the Board's main concerns were: 1)
They needed to include the agreed upon approach of the League of California Cities and the
California State Association of Counties which would focus on the state capping the property tax
shift (ERAF) at a base year and return the growth amount to local government, and 2) They
needed to amend the. language that would earmark the funds. In doing so, the funds could go
back to the general funds for the discretion of the local entities.
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, stated that he agreed with Supervisor Ovitt's comments.
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, stated that she felt that if the State will not return some of the ERAF
monies, one possible approach would be that by earmarking the funds for public works and
public safety, the State would consider the return of some of the funds.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Gere Sibbach, County Auditor /Controller, asked the Council Members /Supervisors to remember
that the ERAF transfer also affected special districts, not just cities and counties. He suggested
adding special districts, at a minimum the County library system which lost approximately 10%
of its total funding.
Alice Porter, 9420 Marchant Way, asked is this Joint Resolution affects Proposition 13. Mayor
Carden answered, no.
Eric Greening, Atascadero, stated he agreed with Mr. Sibbach that the library a large cut
and that should be restored. He stated that he supported this Joint Resolution as amended.
—End PUBLIC COMMENT—
Lengthy discussion ensued including clarification of wording.
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, asked that the motion be repeated in full including the amendments to
the Joint Resolution. Council Member Romero, San Luis Obispo, reviewed the motion.
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The motion passed unanimously by a voice vote.
Settle, Mayor of San Luis Obispo, will give report and present resolution]
Recommendation: Approve Joint Resolution.
Time: 30 minutes
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, gave a brief report regarding this item. He reviewed the
proposed amendments suggested in the letter from Chairman Ryan, San Luis Obispo County (see
Attachment A). He stated that he found the proposed amendments generally acceptable.
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MOTION: Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, moved to adopt the revised Joint Resolution( see
Attachment A) that will. improve the permit process so as to protect our county,
its citizens and property from flood damage through an improved permit
process.
SECOND: Council Member Williams, San Luis Obispo seconded the motion.
Council Member Luna, Atascadero, asked for clarification of the wording in the Joint Resolution
in the paragraph starting with, "NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED."
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, explained that the process is much more streamlined. The idea is
to have the Federal Government to recognize a unified permit that will allow us the flexibility to
protect our property without having to go back on a yearly basis for renewals.
Tim Anson, County Engineer, San Luis Obispo, confirmed that any decision the Army Corps of
Engineers makes, can be appealed by the EPA. They also have to go through multiple other
agencies to receive approval, i.e. Fish and Wildlife Service and FE MA.
Ron DeCarli, Executive. Director of SLOCOG staff, explained that under the ISTEA passed in
1990, there were several streamlining provisions. The most important was early consultation and
delegation of portions or the responsibilities.
PUBLC COMMENT
Eric Greening, Atascadero, urged the Councils /Supervisors to table this issue until they get more
information.
End PUBLIC COMMENT —
Council Member Luna, Atascadero, asked that the wording he questioned earlier be deleted.
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, stated that he would have no problem deleting the wording in the
last three lines in the paragraph Council Member Luna is concerned with and adding, "to follow
reasonable and expeditious standards." Council Member. Williams, San Luis Obispo (the
second) agreed.
Mayor Carden, Atascadero, repeated the motion for clarification: Adopt the revised Joint
Resolution( see Attachment A) with the amendment to delete the last three lines of the paragraph
starting with, "NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED" and adding, "California to follow
reasonable and expeditious standards."
Motion passed unanimously by a voice vote.
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Recommendations: 1. The Cities and County support in concept the constitutional
amendment. resolution, the
2. Each City and County individually support, by
final constitutional amendment package presented to the
Legislature.
Time: 30 minutes
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, gave a brief report and explained her recommendations.
There was brief discussion on this item and Mayor Novak clarified her request to the members.
MOTION: Council Member Reed, Grover Beach, moved to conceptually support the
constitutional amendment, and that the cities and counties along with CSAC
and the League of California. Cities, work towards a united effort.
SECOND: By Council Member Luna, Atascadero.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Michael Kodak, unincorporated Atascadero, questioned the need for this item.
Gere Sibbach, County Controller /Auditor, asked if the motion, as it is presented now, going to
support a constitutional amendment or is it in support of specific language only. Mayor Carden
responded that the motion is to conceptually support the constitutional amendment and work
with CSAC and the League towards a united effort. Mr. Sibbach stated that he had some
concerns regarding the language.
Bob Rose, Templeton, stated that he did not believe that we need another constitutional
amendment. He suggested that what we need is to elect legislators that recognize where state
government, city and county government borders exist.
—End PUBLIC COMMENT—
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, clarified for the public that this constitutional amendment would
require a two thirds vote of both houses to be passed. She also stated that to have it on the
November 1998 ballot would require a 50% voter approval.
There was brief discussion on this item.
Motion passed unanimously by a. voice vote.
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B. INFORMATION ITEMS:
1. ELECTRIC INUUJI I(I 1Jn- ttcuvl.,11ivi.. 913 ,L...,....... A — - - -- - -
OPTIONS FACING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.- .
[Cathy Novak, Mayor of Morro Bay, will give information presentation]
[Allen Settle, Mayor of San Luis Obispo, will present request of aggregating possibilities]
Recommendation: City Managers explore all options and report back findings to all
Cities and County within four months.
Time: 30 minutes
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, gave a brief report and explained her recommendation. She
explained that she felt that the City Managers /County Administrator should work together and
explore all options.
MOTION: By Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, to approve Item #B -1.
SECOND: By Mayor Brown, Pismo Beach.
No PUBLIC COMMENT—
There was brief discussion on this item.
Motion.passed unanimously by a voice vote.
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Mayor Carden, Atascadero, stated that he thinks they have set a record tonight. He went on to
say that since there is still time left, he would accept short closing comments.
Mayor Brown, Pismo Beach, stated he appreciated the efforts of the Atascadero City
management, especially the City Clerk's office, for putting this facility at our disposal with all
the arrangements.
Chairman Ryan, San Luis Obispo County, thanked the Cities for inviting the County to this
meeting. He stated that they will take the Joint Resolutions that the Cities have passed tonight
and put them on their agenda and take action on them as soon as possible.
Mayor Novak, Morro Bay, stated she agreed with Mayor Brown, Pismo Beach, and thanked the
the Cities and the County Board members who attended.
Mayor Dougall, Arroyo Grande, welcomed Chairman Ryan, San Luis Obispo County-, and stated
he agrees with the Chairman joining the mayors' meeting.
Mayor Settle, San Luis Obispo, stated that he agrees with the previous speakers and looks
forward to the next meeting. He expressed his hope that they all follow -up on the items
discussed tonight.
Council Member Reed, Grover Beach, thanked all who attended and help bring information to
the meeting. He also thanked Atascadero for hosting the event.
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ITEM NUMBER: A -1
DATE: 01/27/98
discussed tonight.
Council Member Reed, Grover Beach, thanked all who attended and help bring information to 1
the meeting. He also thanked Atascadero for hosting the event.
Mayor Santos, Grover Beach, invited Chairman Ryan to the next mayors' meeting.
Mayor Picanco, Paso Robles, stated he agrees with the previous speakers and moved to adjourn
the meeting.
Mayor Carden, Atascadero, thanked everyone for coming. He stated that Chairman Ryan will be
present at the next mayors' meeting. He also thanked the Atascadero City staff for coordinating
this meeting.
ADJOURNMENT: Mayor Carden adjourned the Special Joint Meeting of the City Councils
and the Board of Supervisors of San Luis Obispo County at 8:25 p.m.
MINUTES RECORDED AND PREPARED BY:
Marcia M. Torgerson, City Clerk
Approved by the San Luis Obispo City Cou cil on 2/17/98
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