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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES
OCTOBER 15, 2001
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commrs. Hana Novak, Michael Boudreau, Rob Schultz, Zelijka Howard,
Mark Rawson, Vice-Chair Jim Lopes, and Chairperson Charles
Stephenson
Absent: None
Staff: Deputy Director Ronald Whisenand, Associate Planners Pam Ricci and
John Shoals, Parks Director Paul Lesage
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Chris Ivy, 127 Bridge Street, commented on the Big Box issue and was asked by a
Council member to find out what the sizes of the Costco stores were around the
countryside.
There were no further comments from the public.
Councilman Ken Schwartz gave a brief presentation on his ideas regarding city
parkways, medians and greenways.
2. 889 Walnut Street. ARC 103-01; Clarification regarding a deck for a second-story
unit; R-4 zone; Alex DeLeon, applicant.
Associate Planner Pam Ricci presented the staff report, asking the Commission for
clarification on the allowed location of the deck for the upper level of a new duplex,
which was approved previously.
Commr. Novak asked if noise was an issue with regard to the rear deck.
Associate Planner Ricci replied no.
Commr. Novak asked if it was in compliance with the City’s standards.
Associate Planner Ricci replied yes.
Alex DeLeon, applicant, stated he misunderstood his original approval, thinking the
commission supported either the front or rear decks. He understood that he could put
the deck in the front if he obtained proper documentation on noise attenuation, or that
he could put it in the rear if he decided on this location.
Chairperson Stevenson stated he was under the same understanding as Mr. DeLeon.
There was no public discussion on this item.
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COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Lopes stated that a deck which is 4-feet deep is not appreciably deep and
suggested it be deeper and not so wide.
Mr. DeLeon stated that because the living area is towards the front and this is off the
study area and the bedroom, he did not really consider this as a deck.
Commr. Rawson asked if he would consider leaving part of the deck on the front.
Associate Planner Ricci stated it has been the interpretation with some other projects
that each individual unit within a project has a complying space where someone could
be outside and be protected from noise. She indicated that if noise complaints on
outdoor use spaces are provided, then the applicant has the option of providing
additional outdoor use spaces that are unprotected if they are approved as part of the
project.
Chairperson Stevenson asked the applicant if he would prefer to have a deck in the
front without the glass.
Mr. DeLeon stated if he could do one or the other, and not both, he would rather put it in
front.
Commr. Rawson stated they could approve it with both decks as an option.
Commr. Rawson moved to confirm that the approved Condition No. 3 does not prohibit
the applicant from developing a rear deck for the upper duplex unit (Unit B), and allowed
such a deck to be part of working drawings for the project, modifying Condition No. 3 as
follows:
3. Proposed outdoor spaces for the two units shall comply with the requirements of
the City’s Noise Element. If a front deck is pursued for Unit B as its sole outdoor
use area, then working drawings shall include a tempered glass system
surrounding it as depicted on the faxed drawings from the applicant dated 8-28-
01. Working drawings shall include documentation on the noise attenuation
characteristics of the proposed glass wall system. The applicant has the option
of developing a rear deck for Unit B. With a complying rear deck for Unit B, then
the applicant may in the future develop a front deck area for that unit without a
tempered glass system. Seconded by Commr. Howard.
AYES: Commrs. Rawson, Howard, Novak, Boudreau, Schultz, and Stevenson
NOES: Commr. Lopes
ABSENT: None.
The motion carried 6-1.
3. 4041 Broad Street. ARC 148-00; Review of a 105,000 sq. ft. commercial
development consisting of a 102, 000 sq. ft. office park and 3,000 sq. ft. of gas
station/car wash and parking; Michael Cannon, applicant.
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Associate Planner John Shoals presented the staff report recommending approval of
the development plan and schematic approval to the architectural plans with direction
on landscape buffer/screen wall treatments for the convenience center, lighting, site
furniture, and utility locations to return to the ARC.
Chairperson Stevenson asked if the 20-foot setback area is paved rather than
landscaped.
Associate Planner Shoals stated that most of the setback area is landscaped, but that
there are portions paved with asphalt.
Commr. Lopes asked for some background information that City Council had regarding
the carwash building.
Planner Shoals stated that the service station and car wash were discussed during the
PD process. To establish a list of uses on the site, the applicant presented a similar
scenario to the Council. Staff also presented photographs of a service station in
Rancho Cucamonga, which included walls and screening to minimize the effect of the
carwash.
Commr. Lopes asked if there had been an option of locating the carwash on the corner
or on the street.
Associate Planner stated the Rancho Cucamonga station had the convenience market
on the corner but it did not include a carwash.
Chairperson Stevenson asked if there was a drawing without the trees showing the
elevation.
Associate Planner Shoals stated there is no drawing without the trees.
Commr. Howard asked if there was an option of no carwash.
Associate Planner Shoals stated the direction for this meeting was to lower the overall
height of the carwash, to visibly screen it by extending the wing walls, and provide
additional landscaping. He noted that the ARC did not have authority to deny the use,
but it could deny the proposed design.
Commr. Lopes asked if the Council has approved the carwash use.
Associate Planner Shoals stated the Council approved a service station use, but did not
give specific direction on the carwash use.
Mike Cannon, applicant, stated the carwash was not only approved, but it was endorsed
by the Council.
Maurice Macare, BFGC, Architects, stated the direction they were given was to have
parkway between the ultimate right-of-way line and the back of sidewalks so they could
allow for the plants and the street trees. They were also asked to address the elevation
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of the parking space and the 20-foot landscape area between Broad Street and Tank
Farm Road.
Bill Tuculet, BFGC Architects, stated the City Council was insistent that there be a berm
on the corner, as well a building on the corner. He stated they placed the carwash in
this corner to screen the canopy.
George Garcia, Garcia Architect and Design, stated the Commission had directed them
to provide parkways, particularly along Tank Farm Road. In order to accommodate the
current parkway, and to maintain it in the future when a right turn lane is put in, a
parkway will still remain. He explained that visibility and the height of the carwash was
discussed previously. At that time they relocated the carwash back to the corner and
created a building that is partially landscaping. He noted that the 20-feet setbacks were
narrowed and tapered down at the throats. He stated staff gave a summary of potential
items they would like incorporated into the building.
Mr. Garcia noted they would add a shape feature in the rear of the building.
The Commission gave some direction on what types of uses have been proposed and
what the owners have proposed; a permanent structure, a barrel wall to the arbor which
is intended not to be covered, and a trellis structure which will be covered by some sort
of insidious vines.
Chairperson Stevenson asked how deep the trellis is.
Mr. Garcia indicated there were a variety of different schemes for the canopy.
Commr. Lopes asked what the canopy’s overlay is on the floor plan.
Mr. Garcia replied that the state rule is when the hose is extended it should be
underneath the canopy. He stated that the trash enclosure would have a very light
shelter on top and a barrel wall in the back of it, and the material would match the rest
of the project.
Chairperson Stevenson asked what experience the applicant has had with landscaping
on the rooftop of this carwash.
Mr. Garcia replied they have experience in waterproofing and the maintenance would
be minimal because of access to the top of the roof.
Chairperson Stevenson commented he was troubled by the issue and felt there should
be a solution for collecting any spillage that may run on the concrete, noting they need
to comply with NPDES (National Pollution Discharge Eliminations System)
requirements.
Commr. Schultz asked if the minimum fascia height of 36-inches or more is normally
required for the metal steel beams.
Mr. Garcia replied that given the size of the canopy, the typical minimum height is 14-
inches.
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Commr. Lopes asked if the U-glass is in an exposed location?
Mr. Garcia replied it is a thermal glass that is designed for harsh exposure.
Commr. Howard said she would like to see the canopy have a little more artistic value.
Commr. Lopes asked what kind of detail is proposed on the side of the canopy.
Mr. Garcia replied they are proposing a metal feature.
Carol Florence, Oasis Architects, distributed a colored site plan of the landscape
treatment of the corner, and displayed photographs of the type of plant material they are
using. She stated they are going to add some structure to the landscaping.
Chairperson Stevenson asked what is proposed behind the building.
Ms. Florence replied there is soil to the building wall, and the building is acting as a
retaining wall. She noted there would be an evergreen backdrop.
Commr. Howard asked how long would it take for the view to be screened.
Ms. Florence replied it would not take 20 years. She stated the trees they are using
grow fast.
There was much discussion about the landscaping.
PUBLIC COMMENT:
There was no public comment.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Rawson liked the overall project but supported approving the office building
portion of the project if the design of the convenience center and carwash couldn’t be
resolved.
In response to a question, Commr. Rawson stated that he didn’t have a problem with
the 20-foot setback that was proposed.
Commr. Howard complimented the applicant for very thoughtful details, but noted she
has a problem with the principle of positioning a carwash at a focal point on which this
site was designed since it is a very prominent location.
Commr. Lopes felt there was enough information to make a decision on final approval of
the project. He had a few concerns about the landscaping, but felt some conditions
could be made to accommodate it.
Commr. Schultz noted there is 60 feet from the corner to the carwash.
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Associate Planner Shoals clarified that there is approximately 60 feet from the street
corner to the carwash.
Commr. Rawson made a motion to approve the development plan and grant final
approval to the project based on findings and subject to conditions stated in the staff
report with some modifications; with the addition of two findings: 4. The building height
is compatible with the existing uses in the area and maintains the appropriate
relationships with the surrounding buildings. 5. The building height will not deprive
existing uses of reasonable solar access given its location and the uses adjacent to the
structure. Add conditions 14-18, as follows.
14. Revise the landscape plan to provide additional landscaping in front of the screen
wall and to lessen the turf possibly using flowering vines and/or flowering ground
cover at the roof of the carwash.
15. Revise the landscape plan by modifying plant spacing as needed to avoid hedges
and to allow for full plant growth.
16. All backflow preventors, mechanical and utility equipment shall be fully screened
with landscaping.
17. Revise the landscape plan by providing additional shrubs, groundcover and trees at
the street corner to screen the carwash.
18. In addition to City requirements for collection and treatment of urban runoff,
drainage underneath the canopy shall comply with the latest National Pollution
Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) Phase 2 requirements and NPDES Best
Management Practices for mitigating potential point-source contaminants from
fueling areas. (NPDES is a federal and state mandated permit program for the
prevention of contaminated stormwater runoff from a fueling station.)
Seconded by Commr. Boudreau.
AYES: Commrs. Rawson, Boudreau, Lopes, Schultz, and Chairperson Peterson
NOES: Commrs. Novak and Howard
ABSENT: None
The motion carried 5-2.
ADJOURNMENT:
With no further business before the ARC, the meeting adjourned at 7:55 p.m. to the next
regular meeting scheduled for November 5, 2001, at 5:00 p.m.