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ARCHITECTUAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES
DECEMBER 16, 2002
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Allen Root, Jim Lopes, David Smith, and Chairperson
Charles Stevenson.
Absent: Commissioners Michael Boudreau and Zeljka Howard
Note: Vice-Chair Schultz was not present for Item 2.
Staff: Associate Planners Michael Codron and Pamela Ricci, and Recording
Secretary Irene Pierce
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES:
The Minutes of September 16 and, and September 24, 2002, were deferred to the next
meeting due to the lack of a quorum.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. 969 Monterey Street. ARC 166-02; Review of an addition and remodel to an
existing historic building; C-C-H zone; Steven & Rosalyn Carroll, applicants.
Associate Planner Pamela Ricci presented the staff report recommending final approval
to the project, based on findings, and subject to conditions and code requirements.
It was noted that a letter had been received from Betsy Bertrando, Historical Consultant,
which recommended that the second floor be retained, an upper floor could be added if
set back from the original footprint, and care should be taken to uncover original
building details.
Commr. Lopes asked if the building would be taller than it currently is.
Planner Ricci replied that it would be approximately 10 feet taller.
Commr. Lopes asked if this additional height would accommodate a new third floor.
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Planner Ricci replied yes.
David Brannon, Project Architect, explained that the building has been altered many
times over the years. He noted that the applicant would like to maximize the size of the
building but is also sensitive to the fact that it has always been a culturally significant
building. He mentioned that the revised Court Street elevation provided a better
transition between the subject building and the Anderson Hotel. He commented that he
does not want to narrow the columns and would like to keep the massing as presented
on the plans. He indicated that he liked the idea of changing the mullions on the door
entrance at the front elevation to make them look more wooden and traditional.
Commr. Smith asked if the existing stucco is being removed along with the brick.
Mr. Brannon replied that some brick would remain and some would be removed, but the
stucco is all being removed. He explained they hope to retain as much of the exterior
walls as possible.
Commr. Root asked if the detailing around the windows would be pre-cast concrete or
stone.
Mr. Brannon replied probably pre-cast concrete.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Tom Copeland, SLO, supported the project and commented that it is a great looking
building and very appropriate. He felt that trying to replicate the Sinsheimer Building
would not be appropriate and felt the building should have its own flexibility.
Mary Beth Schroeder, 2085 Wilding Lane, SLO, expressed support for the project
because it would restore the original architecture of the building.
There were no further comments made by the public.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Smith expressed support for the remodeled building and its proportions.
Commr. Schultz moved to grant final approval to the project, based on the findings, and
subject to conditions and code requirements in the staff report, with some modifications.
He asked that Condition 1 be eliminated; Condition 4 remove the reference to a railing;
and Condition 10 be changed to read “in addition to the pocket or French doors along
the Court Street elevation to accommodate outdoor dining would require the review of
the ARC.” Seconded by Commr. Root.
Chairperson Stevenson suggested some language to specify that if these doors are
added, that they coordinate with the Monterey Street entry doors.
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Commr. Lopes suggested that the columns be narrowed slightly, and that window
mullions be added to the windows to create more substantial frames.
Vice-Chair Schultz responded as the motion maker that he would consider tapering
down the width of the building columns and enlarging the mullions around the windows.
Chairperson Stevenson interjected that he concurs with Commissioner Lopes, but
suggested the windows be narrowed to accommodate the added mullion width.
Mr. Brannon commented that he would prefer the decision be his regarding the shape
and the volumes of the windows, but if it were an issue he would prefer the wider
mullions.
Vice-Chair Schultz suggested retaining Condition 1, and adding language that “the
mullions of the ground floor storefronts shall be increased in size and have a more
traditional look.”
Mr. Brannon mentioned there are manufacturers that make storefront systems that have
window mullions that snap onto it, and they come in any shape and size. He suggested
they recommend he try to produce window mullions that have a more traditional look
without trying to specify.
Planner Ricci asked if they were referring specifically to the ground floor.
The Commission replied yes.
Commr. Lopes commented that this building could benefit from a Historical Plaque and
suggested adding one.
Vice-Chair Schultz accepted making a condition 11 to consider a Historical Plaque on
the building.
Commr. Lopes commented that he does not want to see a U-rack in front of the
building.
Planner Ricci responded that the Public Works Department was not clear as to whether
or not one would be required or where it would be located.
Commr. Lopes suggested eliminating Code Requirement #16.
Planner Ricci noted that they could not eliminate a code requirement, but they could
simply state that they need to comply with bicycle parking requirements and that they
include the details on the plans.
Vice-Chair Schultz accepted that suggestion as the motion maker. He requested some
additional language for Condition 10.
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Planner Ricci recapped the new language for condition 10.
Vice-Chair Shultz suggested that it say “similar to and coordinated with the Monterey
Street entry doors”.
Chairperson Stevenson asked what the lighting plan is for the long side of the building
along Court Street and suggested a decorative L-bracket that hangs on the building with
a flower basket and a lighting fixture.
Mr. Brannon replied it is an intriguing idea and noted he would explore it.
Chairperson Stevenson commented on the letter from Betsy Bertrando about keeping
the building as a two-story, and to respect the original architecture. He felt the architect
has done a remarkable job to reflect the original architecture and expressed support for
the building height that was proposed.
Vice-Chair Schultz stated that condition 4 be amended: that lighting shall be provided
on the Court Street elevation and details of lighting fixtures, and final tile selection shall
return to staff review.
AYES: Commrs. Schultz, Root, Smith, Lopes, and Stevenson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commrs. Boudreau and Howard
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried 4-0.
2. 3301 Rockview Place. ARC 155-02; Review of a proposed 9-unit planned
development project; R-2-S zone; J.H. Edwards, Co., applicant.
Associate Planner Michael Codron presented the staff report recommending approval of
the design of the proposed buildings and site improvements, based on findings and
subject to conditions of approval.
Chairperson Stevenson questioned if this would be one building face
Planner Codron replied yes, and explained there is a plate at the bottom that would be
extruded, which has a tile cap.
Chairperson Stevenson asked if they would install heavy landscaping to help obscure
the height of the wall.
Planner Codron replied yes, and explained the balconies have doors that would open,
but they are not true balconies.
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Commr. Lopes asked where the landscape setback is located along the wall on
Rockview Place.
Planner Codron replied the original plans did not show the sidewalk, but felt it should be
addressed.
Commr. Smith felt the ground is too dry for a Sycamore Tree.
Planner Codron responded there was no sub-grade water found in the Soils
Engineering Report that would have an impact on geology or the stability of the
foundations. He mentioned they could have a landscape architect evaluate the ability of
a Sycamore to do well on that hillside.
Jeff Edwards, applicant, explained he has incorporated some changes into the project
such as converting unit 2 into a two car garage because it was one parking space short,
and breaking the dimension of the building. He mentioned there would be landscaping
to provide additional visual buffer.
Mike Hodge, EDA, Inc., noted the existing wall should be connected and extend down
the street to the end of the project so they could remain in that alignment and provide a
landscape buffer.
Mr. Edwards stated they would consult with a landscape architect to discuss the
Sycamores.
Don Avery, Architect, mentioned the buildings are staggered both horizontally and
vertically. He noted they want colors that refer to the rocky hillside. He explained there
was not a lot of landscaping shown on the elevation because they did not want to hide
the building faces. He discussed the Sycamores with a landscape architect and the
architect felt they would do fine in this area, but noted all the trees would need a little
water to get started.
Chairperson Stevenson expressed a concern about the height of the building and felt
the rocky soil is going to be problematic.
Mr. Avery replied the lower part is not that rocky and noted they have done a soils test
there.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Mr. Edwards asked that condition 3 be deleted since they modified the Unit 2 garage
from a single-car to a two-car garage.
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Planner Codron explained why condition 3 was modified and noted the first sentence
could be stricken, but the commission might want to consider leaving the second
sentence.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Smith asked for the selling price of the affordable house.
Planner Codron replied units 1 and unit 2 would be sold in the $160,000 range.
Chairperson Stevenson expressed a concern with the appearance of the downhill lot
and questioned if cantilevering any balconies or deck had been considered.
Mr. Avery replied the structures became too tall as they came out and he felt that
cantilevering doesn’t work on this type of Mediterranean structure.
Chairperson Stevenson asked if they could bring the base out to step the verticality.
Mr. Avery replied it does come out, and has a tile cap.
Commr. Lopes suggested changing the two stories into one story and setting back the
second story.
Mr. Avery responded they just reviewed that option and stated they would step back the
upper floor with all the units.
Commr. Lopes questioned where the step is proposed.
Mr. Avery explained which units would have the stepped back second floor.
Chairperson Stevenson commented he really likes this suggestion.
Commr. Lopes offered some alternative landscape planting and trees. He suggested
Holly Oak, Blackwood Acacias, California Pepper, London Plane, and Wax Myrtle,
Buckwheat as a groundcover, and suggested moving the trees up the hill.
Mr. Avery mentioned the notion is to integrate these units into the project, but noted
they are stand-alone units.
Commr. Lopes moved to approve the design and site improvements, as recommended
in the staff report with the findings and conditions, and changes to the following findings:
Finding 1 to include “because the building foundations and facades are stepped to
conform to the hillside”, and finding 2 would include: “foundations and building forms
conform to the hillside”. Condition 1 - the second sentence that recommends the
planting of trees in the open space area shall be eliminated and delete “significantly
reduced”; the first sentence would remain and the second sentence would be deleted,
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but the alternative species that were mentioned at the ARC meeting shall be
considered. Eliminate Condition 3. Seconded by Commr. Smith.
Chairperson Stevenson suggested they consider a Mill Guard Vinyl.
Commr. Root asked about the roof material.
Mr. Avery replied it is terracotta tile.
Commr. Root questioned if it has a variegated color.
Mr. Avery replied yes.
Chairperson Stevenson asked what size tubing would be used for the railing on the
balconies.
Mr. Avery replied it is a standard one-inch vertical with the dimensional cap.
Chairperson Stevenson suggested that the railing stand out.
There was discussion on the railing.
Commr. Lopes suggested the railing have enough dimension to provide a presence. He
felt a landscape strip should provide vines and shrubs.
AYES: Commrs. Lopes, Smith, Root, and Stevenson
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commrs. Boudreau, Howard, and Schultz
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried 4-0.
COMMENT AND DISCUSSION:
Chairperson Stevenson commented about a previous concern on a wall setback.
3. Staff:
A. Agenda Forecast:
January 6, 2002: Kennedy Public Art, Motel Inn, VAS Entertainment marquee sign.
Senior Housing.
4. Commission:
Chairperson Stevenson commented on a letter regarding the Lamplighter.
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ADJOURNMENT:
With no further business before the Commission, the meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m. to
the next regular meeting scheduled for January 6, 2003, in Council Hearing Room.
Respectfully submitted by
Irene E. Pierce
Recording Secretary