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HomeMy WebLinkAboutBates 09348-09459 September 15, 2020 SLO CC McDaniel Court Reporters 1 (805) 544-3633 TRANSCRIPT OF 1 SAN LUIS OBISPO CITY COUNCIL MEETING 2 DATE RECORDED: SEPTEMBER 15, 2020 3 4 5 6 ITEM 9 7 A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT 8 ENTITLEMENTS, CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT 9 REPORT, AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY’S 10 ZONING MAP UPON ANNEXATION OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE FROOM 11 RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. 12 13 14 15 16 DATE OF TRANSCRIPTION: JANUARY 3, 2020 17 TRANSCRIPT PROVIDED BY: 18 MCDANIEL COURT REPORTERS 19 20 21 22 23 24 TRANSCRIBED BY: 25 PADDY KARP 26 09348 McDaniel Court Reporters 2 (805) 544-3633 1 APPEARANCES 2 3 MS. HEIDI HARMON, 4 MAYOR, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 5 6 MS. CARLYN CHRISTIANSON, 7 CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SAN LUIS OBISPO 8 9 MR. AARON GOMEZ, 10 CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SAN LUIS OBISPO 11 12 MS. ERICA STEWART, 13 CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, SAN LUIS OBISPO 14 15 MR. MICHAEL CODRON, 16 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 17 18 MS. SHAWNA SCOTT, 19 SENIOR PLANNER, PROJECT LIAISON, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 20 21 MS. EMILY CREEL, 22 CONTRACT PLANNER, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 23 24 MS. ERIKA LEACHMAN, 25 EIR PREPARATION MANAGER, FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN 26 27 MR. DEREK JOHNSON, 28 CITY MANAGER, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 29 30 MR. LUKE SCHWARTZ, 31 TRANSPORTATION MANAGER, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 32 33 MR. KEITH AGGSON, 34 FIRE CHIEF, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 35 36 MR. CHRIS REED, 37 CONSULTANT, FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN 38 39 MS. TERESA PURRINGTON, 40 CITY CLERK, CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO 41 42 43 44 45 09349 McDaniel Court Reporters 3 (805) 544-3633 MR. VICTOR MONTGOMERY, 1 PRINCIPAL, RRM DESIGN GROUP 2 PROJECT MANAGER, FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN 3 4 MR. MARK DELOTTO, 5 VILLAGIO REPRESENTATIVE 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 09350 McDaniel Court Reporters 4 (805) 544-3633 MAYOR HEIDI HARMON: AND THEN WITH THAT, THE PUBLIC HEARING 1 ITEM BEFORE US IS TO CONSIDER THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT 2 ENTITLEMENTS, CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT 3 REPORT, AND INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY 4 ZONING MAP UPON ANNEXATION OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE FROOM RANCH 5 SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. I’M GOING TO START WITH ASKING EACH COUNCIL 6 MEMBER, STARTING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON, FOR THEIR EX -7 PARTE DISCLOSURES OF CONTACT WITH ANYONE WHO HAS PROVIDED 8 INFORMATION TO COUNCIL MEMBERS NOT ON THE RECORD, AND THAT 9 INFORMATION MAY BE USED AS PART OF THEIR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. 10 MS. CARLYN CHRISTIANSON: I HAVE NOT HAD ANY RECENT EX-11 PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, BUT I DID WANT TO RE-DISCLOSE THE EX-PARTE 12 COMMUNICATION THAT I DISCLOSED AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, I THINK, IN 13 2016. IN APRIL 2016, I DID TALK THEN ABOUT A SITE VISIT THAT I MADE WITH 14 MR. MADONNA AND OUR RRM REPRESENTATIVE, PERHAPS, JUST TO THE SITE 15 UP BY THE MOUNTAINBROOK CHURCH PARKING LOT TO LOOK --OVERVIEW 16 THE ENTIRE SITE FROM THERE. AND AS YOU PROBABLY DON’T KNOW, IT 17 MADE A HUGE, ACTUALLY -- A HUGE IMPRESSION ON ME AND THAT IS WHY I 18 WAS VERY INSISTENT THAT WE NOT BUILD WAY UP INTO THAT VALLEY 19 BECAUSE HE DID A GREAT JOB OF SHOWING IT TO ME. SO IT MADE A 20 DIFFERENCE, AND I APPRECIATED -- THAT EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. AND I 21 HAVEN’T REALLY HAD ANYTHING SINCE THEN. I HAVEN’T HAD ANYTHING 22 SINCE THEN. THANK YOU. 23 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ? 24 09351 McDaniel Court Reporters 5 (805) 544-3633 MR. AARON GOMEZ: I HAVE HAD NO EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. 1 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 2 MS. ERICA STEWART: I MET WITH JOHN MADONNA, AND I BELIEVE IT 3 WAS -- I DON’T REMEMBER WHO IT WAS. BUT -- A DEVELOP- -- ONE OF THE 4 PEOPLE FROM THE RRM BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY. AND THEY 5 SHARED THEIR GOALS OF THE PLAN. 6 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE? 7 MS. ANDY PEASE: YES. I THINK EVEN AS A CANDIDATE I HAD A 8 SIMILAR TOUR AS COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON OF THE SITE, WHICH 9 WAS VERY HELPFUL. AND SINCE THEN, SOME BRIEF MEETINGS WITH THE 10 PROJECT TEAM TO GO OVER THE PROJECT. WE DID DISCUSS -- AGAIN, 11 PROBABLY MORE THAN A YEAR AGO -- THE HEIGHT TO THAT 150 AND 12 WHETHER OR NOT THE EIR, IF THEY WERE GOING TO IN THAT REVIEW 13 PROCESS, GO WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN OR PURSUE THE LESS-IMPACTFUL 14 PLAN. SO WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT SOME TIME AGO. 15 AND THEN THEY DID PURSUE THE LESS-IMPACTFUL, OR MODIFICATION OF 16 THAT. AND THEN SOME BRIEF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT VILLAGIO ITSELF 17 WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THAT ORGANIZATION. 18 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER 19 CHRISTIANSON, FOR THE REMINDER. I WASN’T REMEMBERING THAT, I THINK 20 IT WAS AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, OR TWO YEARS AGO NOW, I 21 WENT OUT TO VISIT THE SITE AND HAD A SIMILAR TOUR. SO THANK YOU FOR 22 THAT REMINDER. AND THEN JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND, I HAD A BRIEF 23 CONVERSATION WITH JOHN MADONNA AS WELL. AND SO WITH THAT THEN, 24 09352 McDaniel Court Reporters 6 (805) 544-3633 WE WILL ASK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR MICHAEL CODRON TO 1 PLEASE PRESENT THE REPORT. 2 MR. MICHAEL CODRON: WELL, THANK YOU, MAYOR HARMON AND 3 MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. WE’RE VERY HAPPY TO BE 4 HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF 5 THE FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. AND AS YOU KNOW, THE FROOM RANCH 6 SPECIFIC PLAN IS A MAJOR PROJECT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT 7 DEPARTMENT’S WORK PROGRAM, SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN 8 WORKING ON FOR OVER FIVE YEARS HERE, SINCE THE ADOPTION OF THE 9 MOST RECENT UPDATE TO THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT. AND 10 THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS GONE THROUGH A VARIETY OF REVIEWS AND 11 DEEP DISCUSSIONS. SO WE BRING TO YOU TONIGHT A LOT OF INFORMATION. 12 I, IN SOME WAYS, WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR ALL THE INFORMATION THAT 13 WE’RE PROVIDING IN FRONT OF YOU AT THE MOMENT. I KNOW IT’S A LOT TO 14 DIGEST. AND SO THERE IS A BIG TEAM HERE TONIGHT TO BE ABLE TO HELP 15 ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. AND WE’VE BEEN REVIEWING ALL THE 16 CORRESPONDENCE AS IT’S COME IN, AND WE THINK WE’RE IN A GOOD 17 POSITION TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE COUNCIL’S QUESTIONS, 18 COMMUNITY’S QUESTIONS, AND HELP YOU, YOU KNOW, GIVE IMPORTANT 19 CONSIDERATION TO THE FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH REPRESENTS 20 A NEW NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO. 21 THE PROJECT TEAM TONIGHT IS LEAD BY SHAWNA SCOTT, AND 22 EMILY CREEL WILL BE MAKING THE PRESENTATION. I’M GOING TO START 23 OFF BY TURNING THINGS OVER TO SHAWNA. AND SHE WILL KICK THINGS 24 09353 McDaniel Court Reporters 7 (805) 544-3633 OFF AND INTRODUCE THE TEAM, AND WE’LL GET GOING. WE’LL BE HERE 1 AFTER THE PRESENTATION TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 2 THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 3 MS. SHAWNA SCOTT: YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MICHAEL. AND 4 GOOD EVENING MAYOR HARMON AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AS MIKE 5 MENTIONED, I’M SHAWNA SCOTT, SENIOR PLANNER AND CITY PROJECT 6 LIAISON FOR THIS FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN PROJECT. AS MICHAEL 7 MENTIONED, BACK IN 2014, THE ADOPTED LAND USE AND CIRCULATION 8 ELEMENT UPDATE IDENTIFIED THREE NEW SPECIFIC PLAN AND CITY 9 EXPANSION AREAS; AVILA RANCH, LOCATED WITHIN THE AIRPORT AREA 10 SPECIFIC PLAN; SAN LUIS RANCH; AND MADONNA ON LOVR, WHICH IS 11 KNOWN TODAY AS FROOM RANCH. 12 SINCE 2014, THE AVILA RANCH DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND SAN 13 LUIS RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN WERE APPROVED AND ARE IN THE PROCESS OF 14 DEVELOPMENT. THIS THIRD AND FINAL SPECIFIC PLAN, FROOM RANCH, WAS 15 INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN APRIL OF 2016 WITH THE INTENTION 16 THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD INCLUDE A LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY, 17 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND A PUBLIC 18 PARK. SINCE THAT TIME, CITIES HAVE CROSSED MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS, 19 CITY CONSULTANTS, AND THE APPLICANT CAME UP WITH CONSIDERABLE 20 WORK INTO THE EXTENSIVE TECHNICAL STUDIES AND ANALYSIS APPENDED 21 TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, PREPARATION OF THE DRAFT AND 22 FINAL EIR, THE VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN 23 ITSELF, WHICH HAS EVOLVED SINCE ITS INITIAL DRAFT IN 2017. 24 09354 McDaniel Court Reporters 8 (805) 544-3633 THE PROJECT HAS BENEFITTED FROM MULTIPLE ADVISORY BODY 1 HEARINGS AND ASSOCIATED COMMENTS AND FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, 2 AND AGENCY REVIEW AND COMMENTS, AND EXTENSIVE WORK WITH STAFF 3 AND APPLICANT TEAM. THESE EFFORTS HAVE RESULTED IN A PROPOSED 4 SPECIFIC PLAN THAT IS IN SUBSTANTIAL ALIGNMENT WITH THE EIR 5 IDENTIFIED, ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE, WHICH IS 6 PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. 7 I AM PLEASED TO BE JOINED BY EMILY CREEL, CITY CONTRACT 8 PLANNER AND PROJECT MANAGER; AND ERIKA LEACHMAN, OUR EIR PROJECT 9 MANAGER WHO WILL BE CONDUCTING THE STAFF PRESENTATION TONIGHT. 10 IN ADDITION TO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF AND OUR CITY 11 CONSULTANTS, LUKE SCHWARTZ, TRANSPORTATION MANAGER, WILL BE 12 PRESENTING INFORMATION REGARDING IDENTIFIED TRANSPORTATION 13 RELATED IMPACTS AND MITIGATION MEASURES. AND FIRE CHIEF KEITH 14 AGGSON AND FIRE MARSHALL RODGER MAGGIO ARE AVAILABLE TO 15 PROVIDE SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION REGARDING WILD FIRE 16 HAZARDS. 17 ADDITIONAL CITY STAFF FROM ENGINEERING, UTILITIES, AND 18 THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND NATURAL RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE 19 TO RESPOND TO FOLKS’ QUESTIONS AS NEEDED. AND I WOULD LIKE TO 20 THANK THE ENTIRE TEAM FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS CONTRIBUTING TO 21 THE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT. 22 THE APPLICANT’S TEAM WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING TONIGHT 23 AND WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. THE TEAM PRESENTING FOR THE 24 09355 McDaniel Court Reporters 9 (805) 544-3633 APPLICANT WILL CONSIST OF VICTOR MONTGOMERY FROM RRM DESIGN 1 GROUP, AND MARK DELOTTO FROM VILLAGIO. THEIR TEAM IS SUPPORTED 2 BY A GROUP OF TECHNICAL EXPERTS WHO WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO 3 RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS AS NEEDED. AND NOW I WILL TURN THE 4 PRESENTATION OVER TO EMILY CREEL. 5 MS. EMILY CREEL: THANK YOU, SHAWNA. AS MICHAEL MENTIONED, 6 WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GO THROUGH, SO I’M GOING TO JUMP 7 RIGHT IN. SO SHAWNA, PLEASE, NEXT SLIDE. I THOUGHT I’D START BY 8 TALKING A BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT’S HISTORY BECAUSE I -- THE SPECIFIC 9 PLAN HAS GONE THROUGH THREE MAJOR ITERATIONS SINCE THE COUNCIL’S 10 INITIAL AUTHORIZATION. AND I THINK DESCRIBING THOSE ITERATIONS WILL 11 HELP YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROJECT EVOLVED THROUGH THE 12 PLANNING PROJECT PROCESS, AND HOPEFULLY BECAME, YOU KNOW, A 13 BETTER PROJECT AS A RESULT OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS BY, YOU KNOW, 14 SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, AND ALSO 15 INCREASING CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY’S GENERAL PLAN. 16 SO THE GRAPH THAT YOU SEE HERE IS THE ORIGINAL SPECIFIC 17 PLAN. THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZED INITIATION OF THE FROOM RANCH 18 SPECIFIC PLAN IN APRIL OF 2016, INCLUDING A REQUEST FOR A GENERAL 19 PLAN AMENDMENT TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT ABOVE THE 150 FOOT 20 ELEVATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED BY THE CITY’S GENERAL 21 PLAN. FOLLOWING THAT AUTHORIZATION, THE APPLICANT TEAM FINALIZED 22 PREPARATION OF THE FIRST DRAFT FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. WHAT I’M 23 REFERRING TO HERE IS THE 2017 PLAN. THE 2017 SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD 24 09356 McDaniel Court Reporters 10 (805) 544-3633 INCLUDE UP TO 404 UNITS WITHIN A LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY KNOWN AS 1 VILLAGIO, UP TO 174 UNITS WITHIN MADONNA FROOM RANCH R3 AND R4 2 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, UP TO 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL, 3 AND A 2.9 ACRE PUBLIC PARK SHOWN THERE IN GREEN. THE REMAINDER OF 4 THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, APPROXIMATELY 59 ACRES OR 54 PERCENT OF THE 5 SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, WOULD BE PRESERVED AS OPEN SPACE. THAT PROJECT 6 ALSO INCLUDED TWO NOTABLE OFF SITE IMPROVEMENTS; A STORM WATER 7 DETENTION BASIN ON THE ADJACENT MOUNTAINBROOK CHURCH PROPERTY, 8 AND A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION AT LOVR AND AUTO PARK WAY. NEXT 9 SLIDE, PLEASE. 10 SO AS PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL’S AUTHORIZATION OF THE 11 SPECIFIC PLAN, IT ALSO REQUIRED, BACK IN 2016, THAT A FEASIBLE AND 12 ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT LOCATED ALL DEVELOPMENT BELOW THE 13 150 FOOT ELEVATION ALSO BE DEVELOPED AND EVALUATED. SO CITY STAFF 14 WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE EIR CONSULTANT TEAM AND THE PROJECT 15 APPLICANT IN DEVELOPMENT OF AN ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE THAT 16 WOULD NOT ONLY MEET THE, YOU KNOW, PURPOSES OF PROVIDING AN 17 ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS AND THE EIR AND WOULD ALSO MEET THE 18 COUNCIL’S DIRECTION TO PROVIDE THAT ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE, WHICH 19 HAD TO BE FEASIBLE FROM THE APPLICANT’S PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. 20 AND SO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, WE DEVELOPED WHAT THE 21 EIR REFERS TO AS ALTERNATIVE ONE. SO ALTERNATIVE ONE IS INTENDED TO 22 REPRESENT THE ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE. SIMILAR TO THE 2017 SPECIFIC 23 PLAN, ALTERNATIVE ONE INCLUDES THE SAME NUMBER OF UNITS AND TYPES 24 09357 McDaniel Court Reporters 11 (805) 544-3633 OF USES WITHIN THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. SO UP TO 404 UNITS WITHIN 1 VILLAGIO, UP TO 174 UNITS WITHIN MADONNA FROOM RANCH, 100,000 2 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL, AND A LARGER 3.3 ACRE PUBLIC PARK, AND 3 ALSO AN INCREASED ALMOST 67 ACRES AND 66 PERCENT OF THE SPECIFIC 4 PLAN AREA TO BE RETAINED IN OPEN SPACE. AND THOSE USES WERE 5 ALLOWED TO BE INCREASED BY THAT RELOCATION OF ALL THE PROPOSED 6 DEVELOPMENT BELOW THE 150 FOOT LINE. 7 THE EIR DETERMINED THAT ALTERNATIVE ONE WAS THE 8 ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE. AND IT WOULD AVOID AND 9 REDUCE POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS TO VISUAL RESOURCES, 10 BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, CULTURAL, AND TRIBAL CULTURAL RESOURCES, 11 HAZARDS AND WILD FIRE, LAND USE AND PLANNING, PARTICULARLY 12 RELATED TO POLICY CONSISTENCY, AND NOISE. AND NOTABLY, 13 ALTERNATIVE ONE IN COMPARISON TO THE 2017 SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD 14 AVOID SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS TO VISUAL RESOURCES 15 AND BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 16 SO THIS SLIDE PROVIDES A COMPARISON OF THE 2016 SPECIFIC 17 PLAN, WHICH IS WHERE WE STARTED; THE PROJECT THAT IS EVALUATED IN 18 THE MAIN BODY OF THE EIR, AND ALTERNATIVE ONE, THE 19 ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE, WHICH LOCATED THE 20 DEVELOPMENT BELOW 150 FEET. SHAWNA, HIT A NEXT TO NOTE, PLEASE, 21 FOR ME. 22 SO THE BIGGEST CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO WAS OBVIOUSLY 23 THE REMOVAL OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS SOUTHWESTERN PORTION OF 24 09358 McDaniel Court Reporters 12 (805) 544-3633 THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, WHICH WE’LL REFER TO AS THE UPPER TERRACE. 1 THE UPPER TERRACE IS A VERY HIGHLY SENSITIVE, BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE-2 RICH PORTION OF THE PROJECT SITE ABOVE 150 FEET. ALTERNATIVE ONE 3 BASICALLY PICKED UP THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT UPPER TERRACE AND 4 PLACED IT ON TOP OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE LOWER PORTION. SO, YOU 5 KNOW, DENSITY INCREASED, BUILDING HEIGHTS INCREASED, BUT THAT 6 UPPER TERRACE IS RETAINED IN OPEN SPACE. 7 A SECOND MAJOR CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO -- SHAWNA, IF 8 YOU’LL HIT -- THANK YOU -- WAS A RECONFIGURATION OF THE LAND USES IN 9 WHAT WE’LL REFER TO AS THE QUARRY AREA. SO THE NORTHWEST 10 PORTION OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA ABOVE 150 FEET, THE ORIGINALLY 11 PROPOSED PROJECT HAD ZONED THAT LOCATION FOR PREDOMINANTLY R3 12 DEVELOPMENT, ALTERNATIVE ONE FOUND THAT BY SWAPPING THE 13 PROPOSED PARK USES AND THAT R3 DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THAT PORTION 14 OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN, ALTERNATIVE ONE WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE 15 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS AND INCREASE CONSISTENCY WITH THE CITY’S 16 GENERAL PLAN. SO THE ORIGINAL LOCATION -- SHAWNA, IF YOU’LL CLICK, 17 PLEASE -- IS SHOWN -- THE ORIGINAL PARK LOCATION IN SHOWN IN THAT 18 YELLOW BOX ON THE GRAPHIC TO THE LEFT, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, 19 ALTERNATIVE ONE RELOCATED ALL THOSE PUBLIC PARK USES TO THAT 20 QUARRY AREA ABOVE 150 FEET. 21 AND THEN LASTLY, THE THIRD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO 22 IS -- SHAWNA, CLICK PLEASE -- ALTERNATIVE -- EXCUSE ME. THE 2017 23 SPECIFIC PLAN INCLUDED A SECONDARY EMERGENCY ACCESS ROUTE 24 09359 McDaniel Court Reporters 13 (805) 544-3633 THROUGH THE UPPER TERRACE WHICH WOULD CONNECT TO THE 1 MOUNTAINBROOK CHURCH PROPERTY. WITH THE MOVE TOWARDS 2 ALTERNATIVE ONE AND THE ELIMINATION OF THAT ACCESS POINT ALONG 3 WITH THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE UPPER TERRACE, THE EIR PROCESS 4 IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR ALTERNATIVE ONE TO FURTHER EVALUATE 5 EMERGENCY ACCESS OPPORTUNITIES. AND SO ALTERNATIVE ONE 6 EVALUATED THREE ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY ACCESS LOCATIONS; ONE TO 7 THE NORTH TO PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO IRISH HILLS PLAZA, A SECOND 8 CONNECTION TO THE EAST TO CONNECT TO LOVR, AND A THIRD EMERGENCY 9 ACCESS WAY TO THE SOUTH THAT WOULD EXTEND THROUGH THE STORM 10 WATER DETENTION BASIN AREA AND CONNECT TO CALLE JOAQUIN. 11 SO THE DRAFT EIR WAS CIRCULATED IN NOVEMBER AND 12 DECEMBER OF 2019. AND DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THE DRAFT EIR, THE 13 APPLICANT STATED IT WAS THEIR INTENT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH 14 ALTERNATIVE ONE AS THE APPLICANT’S PREFERRED ALTERNATIVE. SO 15 FOLLOWING THAT PUBLIC CIRCULATION PERIOD, STAFF BEGAN 16 COORDINATING WITH THE CITY’S EIR CONSULTANT TO PREPARE THE FINAL 17 EIR, AND ALSO WITH THE PROJECT’S APPLICANT TO REVISE THE FROOM 18 RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN TO REFLECT THIS MOVE TOWARDS ALTERNATIVE ONE. 19 SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 20 SO THE GRAPHIC HERE IS THE RESULT OF THAT COORDINATION 21 AND THE APPLICANT’S MOVE TOWARDS ALTERNATIVE ONE. SO THIS IS THE 22 PROJECT CURRENTLY BEFORE YOU. SORRY, SHAWNA, CAN YOU BACK UP 23 ONE SLIDE? THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE PROJECT UNDER CONSIDERATION 24 09360 McDaniel Court Reporters 14 (805) 544-3633 TODAY. IT’S THE DRAFT 2020 FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. AND IT 1 REPRESENTS WHAT WE ARE REFERRING TO AS THE APPLICANT REVISED 2 ALTERNATIVE ONE. SO IT IS ALTERNATIVE ONE WITH A FEW MINOR 3 MODIFICATIONS WHICH I’LL POINT TO ON THE NEXT SLIDE. BUT SIMILAR TO 4 THE PREVIOUS TWO ITERATIONS OF THE PROJECT, THE CURRENT PROJECT 5 PROVIDES THE SAME 404 UNITS IN VILLAGIO, 174 MADONNA AND FROOM 6 RANCH, THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL, A SLIGHTLY 7 REDUCED 3.6 ACRE PARK IN COMPARISON TO ALTERNATIVE ONE, AND JUST 8 OVER 66 ACRES OR APPROXIMATELY 60 PERCENT OF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN 9 AREA WOULD BE RETAINED AS OPEN SPACE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 10 SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE 11 ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE AND THE ENVIRONMENTALLY PREFERRED 12 ALTERNATIVE ONE; AND THE CURRENT PROJECT, THE APPLICANT REVISED 13 ALTERNATIVE ONE. SHAWNA, IF YOU’LL CLICK PLEASE FOR ME. SORRY, THE 14 CLICKING IS A LITTLE AWKWARD. BUT PART OF WHAT THE APPLICANT 15 REVISED IN THE CURRENT VERSION OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS THEY 16 INCORPORATED ANY MITIGATION MEASURES IN THE EIR THAT REQUIRED 17 DESIGN CHANGES WITHIN THE SPECIFIC PLAN. SO THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE OF 18 THAT IS SHOWN HERE IN THE TWO CIRCLES. ALTERNATIVE ONE CONSISTENT 19 WITH THE 2017 SPECIFIC PLAN PROPOSED R3 DEVELOPMENT WITHIN 20 VILLAGIO IN THIS AREA SHOWN IN THE RED CIRCLE, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO 21 SOME REALLY SENSITIVE DRAINAGE FEATURES THAT RUN THROUGH THE 22 UPPER TERRACE AND THEN VERY NEAR THE CONFLUENCE WITH FROOM 23 CREEK. SO THE EIR IDENTIFIED THE NEED TO PRESERVE A 300 FOOT BUFFER 24 09361 McDaniel Court Reporters 15 (805) 544-3633 ON -- 150 FEET ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT CONFLUENCES OF THOSE DRAINAGES 1 AND FROOM CREEK AS A WILD LIFE CORRIDOR. AND SO APPLICANT REVISED 2 ALTERNATIVE ONE HAS A INCORPORATED THAT DESIGN CHANGE AND HAS 3 RELOCATED THAT LAND USE OUTSIDE OF THAT CORRIDOR AREA. 4 A SECOND BIG CHANGE IS APPLICANT REVISED ALTERNATIVE 5 ONE INCORPORATED TWO OUT OF THE THREE EVALUATED EMERGENCY 6 ACCESS POINTS; THE ADDITIONAL POINT TO THE NORTH TO IRISH HILLS 7 PLAZA AS WELL AS A SECONDARY ACCESS POINT TO LOVR FROM THE 8 VILLAGIO SIDE OF THE PROJECT. WE DID CONSULT EXTENSIVELY WITH THE 9 CITY’S TRANSPORTATION DIVISION AND THE FIRE MARSHALL ON THE NEED 10 AND THE BENEFIT OF PROVIDING THAT THIRD EMERGENCY ACCESS POINT TO 11 CALLE JOAQUIN. AND BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION DIVISION AND THE FIRE 12 DEPARTMENT DIDN’T FIND THAT THAT THIRD ACCESS POINT WOULD 13 PROVIDE TOO MUCH OF A BENEFIT. AND THAT’S LARGELY BECAUSE CALLE 14 JOAQUIN IN TURN, YOU KNOW, TERMINATES AT LOVR JUST A FEW HUNDRED 15 FEET TO THE EAST. AND SO THAT THIRD ACCESS POINT IS NOT PROVIDED FOR 16 THAT REASON AND -- AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION OF THAT ACCESS WAY 17 WOULD HAVE REQUIRED ADDITIONAL IMPACTS TO THOSE SENSITIVE 18 DRAINAGE FEATURES AND/OR FROOM CREEK. THEY COULD NOT BE 19 CROSSED, OR THAT ACCESS WAY COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT 20 CROSSING THOSE SENSITIVE FEATURES. 21 SO THE AREA -- ONE MORE CLICK PLEASE, SHAWNA -- LASTLY, 22 THE LAND USE CONFIGURATIONS IN THE QUARRY AREA WERE REVISED 23 BETWEEN ALTERNATIVE ONE AND THE APPLICANT’S REVISED ALTERNATIVE 24 09362 McDaniel Court Reporters 16 (805) 544-3633 ONE. UNDER ALTERNATIVE ONE, THE ENTIRE AREA ABOVE 150 FEET WAS 1 DESIGNATED FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, A PUBLIC TRAILHEAD PARK USE 2 EXCEPT FOR SOME PERIMETER OPEN SPACE AREAS. UNDER THE CURRENT 3 PROJECT, THE AREA ABOVE 150 FEET AT THAT LOCATION WOULD MAINTAIN 4 A 3.6 ACRE PUBLIC TRAILHEAD PARK. IT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE 0.7 ACRES OF 5 CONSERVATION AND OPEN SPACE, BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS ABOVE THE 150 6 FOOT CONTOUR, 0.7 ACRES OF R3 MEDIUM, HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, 7 AND APPROXIMATELY 0.4 ACRES OF ROADWAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 8 AND SO I’M GOING TO HAND IT OVER NOW TO ERIKA LEACHMAN, 9 WHO MANAGED PREPARATION OF THE EIR FOR THE PROJECT. AND THEN 10 SHE’LL CIRCLE BACK WITH ME SO WE CAN GO OVER, AGAIN, KEY ISSUES 11 ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT, THE 2020 FROOM R ANCH SPECIFIC 12 PLAN. 13 MS. ERIKA LEACHMAN: GREAT. THANK YOU, EMILY. IT’S A VERY 14 GREAT OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE’VE BEEN AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT 15 WITH THE PROJECT. I’M GOING TO BUILD ON THAT TODAY TO GIVE AN 16 OVERVIEW OF THE EIR AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, A SUMMARY OF 17 THAT INCLUDING A FOCUS ON THE FINDINGS PARTICULARLY RELATED TO 18 SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS. I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY, IT’S AN 19 HONOR TO BE HERE. IT’S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY ON THIS PROJECT, AND SO 20 IT’S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE 21 OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. 22 SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND FIRST; GIVEN THE MIX OF 23 PROPOSED USES AND THE SITE SETTING ITSELF, THE SITING FOR THE 24 09363 McDaniel Court Reporters 17 (805) 544-3633 PROJECT, IT’S IN A LARGELY UNDEVELOPED AND PRETTY RESOURCE-RICH 1 AREA AT THE BASE OF THE IRISH HILLS. AND BECAUSE OF THIS SITE SETTING, 2 FROM THE GET GO, THE EIR IS A FULL SCOPE EIR. IT ADDRESSES EVERY 3 APPLICABLE CEQA RESOURCE, AND THE ONLY RESOURCE FOUND TO BE 4 INSIGNIFICANT AND NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS ANALYSIS WAS FORESTRY, 5 SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FORESTRY RESOURCES ON SITE OR IN THE 6 CITY. SO THE ANALYSIS WAS ROBUST AND COMPREHENSIVE ACROSS ALL 7 REQUIRED CEQA RESOURCE AREAS. IT WAS CONDUCTED BASED ON THE 8 CEQA GUIDELINES AND ALSO LOCAL THRESHOLDS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SLO 9 APCD’S EMISSION THRESHOLDS FOR AIR QUALITY GREENHOUSE GASSES, AND 10 THEN ALSO GENERAL PLAN POLICIES IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE. A GOOD 11 EXAMPLE IS OUR USE OF THE 150 FOOT ELEVATION LINE THAT IS PRESCRIBED 12 IN THE CITY’S HILLSIDE PROTECTION POLICIES AS A LAND USE METRIC 13 RELATIVE TO SEVERAL RESOURCES, AND IT SHOWS UP IN TERMS OF 14 BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE PROTECTION, CULTURAL RESOURCES, VISUAL 15 RESOURCES, AND WILD FIRE. SO HAVING THAT LITERAL LOCATION ON THE 16 MAP WAS A POINT THAT WAS CONSIDERED AS A LAND USE POLICY 17 THRESHOLD. 18 THE EIR CONSIDERED THE CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS OF THE 19 PROJECT AND THE OPERATIONAL IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT ON THE 20 ENVIRONMENT, AS WELL AS ACCUMULATIVE IMPACTS OF THE 21 DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE ALONG WITH A LIST OF 93 OTHER PENDING AND 22 APPROVED PROJECTS IN THE CITY AND IN THE NEARBY COUNTY AREAS. AND 23 THIS INCLUDED THE SAN LUIS RANCH PROJECT AND THE AVILA RANCH 24 09364 McDaniel Court Reporters 18 (805) 544-3633 PROJECT, WHICH ARE IN THE PROJECT VICINITY. 1 AND IMPACTS THAT WERE FOUND TO BE POTENTIALLY 2 SIGNIFICANT, SO AN IMPACT THAT WOULD EXCEED AND ESTABLISH 3 THRESHOLD FOR THE RESOURCE BEING EVALUATED WERE MITIGATED TO 4 THE EXTENT FEASIBLE WITH PROGRAMMATIC MITIGATION MEASURES THAT 5 WOULD CARRY FORWARD WITH THE SPECIFIC PLAN. SO AS MS. CREEL 6 EXPLAINED, SOME OF THOSE MEASURES HAVE ALREADY BEEN 7 INCORPORATED INTO THE 2020 SPECIFIC PLAN. OTHERS WOULD BE 8 IMPLEMENTED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME AS THE PROJECT (INAUDIBLE) AND 9 IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME. BUT THE IDEA THERE IS THAT THE 10 PROGRAMMATIC MITIGATION WOULD CARRY FORWARD THE PROJECT 11 THROUGH ALL PHASES OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE PLANNING PROCESS. 12 YOU WILL SEE THESE MITIGATION MEASURES NOT ONLY IN THE 13 BODY OF THE EIR, BUT ALSO CONSOLIDATED INTO THE MITIGATION AND 14 MONITORING -- MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM, THE MMRP, WHICH 15 IS INCLUDED IN THE FINDING OF THE EIR AND AVAILABLE ON THE PROJECT’S 16 WEBSITE. A COUPLE EXAMPLES, WE COULD GO THROUGH EVERY 17 MITIGATION MEASURE, BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME I WANTED TO 18 HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE EXAMPLES THAT EXEMPLIFY THE TYPE OF MITIGATION 19 AND THE APPROACH TO PROGRAMMATIC MITIGATION FOR THE PROJECT. 20 FOR EXAMPLE, TO ADDRESS AIR QUALITY IMPACTS, AIR QUALITY 21 MITIGATION REQUIRES 100 PERCENT CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY FOR THE 22 PROJECT. THIS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCES GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AND 23 ENSURES BOTH COMPLIANCE WITH BOTH STATE AND FAIRLY NEW LOCAL 24 09365 McDaniel Court Reporters 19 (805) 544-3633 GSU PRODUCTION TARGETS AND GOALS AT THE CITY LEVEL. 1 AND IN ANOTHER EXAMPLE, WILD FIRE MITIGATION REQUIRES A 2 FULL RANGE OF MEASURES TO MINIMIZE THE CHANCE OF EMISSION, ENSURE 3 EMERGENCY ACCESS AND EVACUATION IN THE EVENT OF WILD FIRE, AND 4 ALSO PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SPECIFIC WILD FIRE PROTECTION PLAN TO 5 MAXIMIZE THOSE REDUCTIONS IN WILD FIRE RISK INHERENT TO THE SITE. 6 WE CAN’T CHANGE WHERE THE SITE IS, BUT THERE IS A LOT THAT WE CAN 7 DO IN TERMS OF MITIGATION TO REDUCE THOSE RISKS AND ENSURE A PLAN 8 GOING FORWARD TO RECOGNIZE AND RESPOND TO WILD FIRE RISKS IN THIS 9 AREA OF THE CITY. 10 MR. GOMEZ: COULD I STOP YOU THERE FOR ONE SECOND? 11 MS. LEACHMAN: OH, OF COURSE. 12 MR. GOMEZ: JUST BECAUSE OF THE COMMENT OF USE OF CARBON 13 CREATED ELECTRICITY, THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPANSION ON THAT 14 BECAUSE CURRENTLY UNDER OUR ENERGY PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, WE 15 ALL USE CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY BASED ON OUR USE OF WHO IS 16 PROVIDING OUR POWER. SO IS THIS GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT? 17 MS. LEACHMAN: YES. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, THANK YOU 18 FOR THE COMMENT. AND THE TIMING OF THE EIR, AND THE ESTABLISHMENT 19 OF CITY REGULATION, AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE CARBON FREE 20 ELECTRICITY DOVETAILED WELL. SO THAT WAS NOT ONLY A REQUIREMENT 21 THERE, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE OPPORTUNITY EXISTED, BUT IT IS ONE 22 OF MANY MEASURES THAT ENSURES ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND GSU 23 REDUCTIONS OVERALL FOR THE PROJECT. THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER 24 09366 McDaniel Court Reporters 20 (805) 544-3633 EXAMPLES THAT I’D BE HAPPY TO BRING UP AND GO THROUGH. BUT THAT 1 WAS ONE OF MANY MEASURES AND TECHNIQUES THAT WERE REQUIRED OF 2 THE PROJECT TO REDUCE ENERGY DEMAND AND ALSO ENSURE THE USE OF 3 CLEAN ENERGY AND GSU REDUCTIONS. 4 SO ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE USE OF ELECTRICITY, FIRST AND 5 FOREMOST, WITHOUT THE NEED FOR NATURAL GAS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A 6 GSU GENERATOR. SO, YES. AND SO THAT -- IT WAS AN OPPORTUNISTIC 7 MITIGATION MEASURE THAT DOVETAILED WELL WITH WHAT WAS 8 HAPPENING WITH THE CITY AT THE TIME. SO IT BECAME A REQUIREMENT OF 9 THE PROJECT. 10 MR. DEREK JOHNSON: AND MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER 11 GOMEZ, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, AS WE FINISH UP THE PRESENTATION WE CAN 12 HAVE -- WE’VE GOT CHRIS REED HERE WHO IS AVAILABLE. AND THERE’S A 13 LITTLE BIT OF A TIMING IN TERMS OF WHEN WE STARTED THE EIR, WHEN WE 14 JOINED MONTEREY BAY COMMUNITY POWER, WHICH IS NOW, YOU KNOW, 15 3CE. AND SO -- BUT WE CAN EXPAND UPON THIS, AND WE CAN TALK A LITTLE 16 BIT MORE JUST TO GIVE YOU A FULL ANSWER. 17 MR. GOMEZ: YEAH. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 18 MS. LEACHMAN: THANK YOU. GREAT. SO AFTER APPLYING ALL 19 FEASIBLE MITIGATION MEASURES, MOST OF THE IMPACTS WERE FOUND TO 20 BE EITHER LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT WITHOUT MITIGATION, OR LESS THAN 21 SIGNIFICANT WITH THE APPLICATION OF MITIGATION. HOWEVER, THERE ARE 22 SEVEN CEQA RESOURCE AREAS THAT HAVE A TOTAL OF NINE SPECIFIC 23 RESIDUAL SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS. AND WE’LL SUMMARIZE 24 09367 McDaniel Court Reporters 21 (805) 544-3633 THOSE BRIEFLY. NEXT SLIDE, SHAWNA. THANK YOU. 1 GREAT. SO SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES THAT WOULD 2 PERSIST FOR THE APPLICANT REVISED ALTERNATIVE ONE WERE FULLY 3 ANALYZED IN THE EIR AS PART OF ALTERNATIVE ONE AND THE ORIGINAL 4 PROJECT. SO THE COMPONENTS OF THOSE TWO PROJECTS TOGETHER WERE 5 CONSIDERED IN WHOLE IN THE EIR. AND THE FIRST ISSUE RELATES TO 6 VISUAL RESOURCES AND AESTHETICS. WHILE, AS MS. CREEL DESCRIBED, THE 7 IMPACT OF THE PROJECT WAS SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED BY THE 8 RELOCATION OF DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM THE UPPER TERRACE TO THE 9 LOWER AREA, BY REMOVING DEVELOPMENT FROM THAT VISUALLY 10 SENSITIVE AREA AND OUTSIDE OF AN ESTABLISHED VIEW CORRIDOR, THE 11 LEVEL OF IMPACT WAS REDUCED SUBSTANTIALLY. THAT BEING SAID, ON 12 THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROJECT SITE, ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE THE 13 QUARRY IS, VIEWS FROM THE FROOM CREEK TRAILHEAD AND THE 14 CONNECTOR TRAIL, WHICH ARE KEY VIEWS IN THE CITY AND ESTABLISHED 15 IN THE CITY’S GENERAL PLAN AND THE IRISH HILLS PLAN, THEY WOULD 16 REMAIN SIGNIFICANT, EVEN WITH MITIGATION TO VISUALLY SHIELD THE 17 PROJECT FROM PUBLIC VIEW, MAINLY CONSIDERING, FROM AN AESTHETICS 18 PERSPECTIVE THAT IT’S A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM THE EXISTING 19 CONDITION, AND CONSIDERING THE CHARACTER OF THE SITE IN ITS 20 CURRENT CONDITION TO WHAT IT WOULD BE AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT OF 21 THE PROJECT ON THAT SIDE OF THE PROJECT SITE. 22 IN ADDITION, IN TERMS OF LONG TERM OPERATIONAL 23 EMISSIONS, SO IN TERMS OF AIR QUALITY, INCLUDING GREENHOUSE GASSES, 24 09368 McDaniel Court Reporters 22 (805) 544-3633 THOSE WOULD CONTINUE TO EXCEED THE NUMERIC THRESHOLDS 1 ESTABLISHED BY SLO APCD; THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT. 2 HOWEVER, THIS OUTCOME, THIS FINDING IS LARGELY BECAUSE THE ROBUST 3 AND DETAILED MITIGATION MEASURES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE EIR TO 4 MEET SLO APCD’S REQUIREMENTS, THEY’RE DIFFICULT, IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE 5 TO QUANTIFY. 6 SO FOR EXAMPLE, A MEASURE TO SUPPORT WALKABILITY AND 7 CARPOOLING, IT WILL ABSOLUTELY CERTAINLY REDUCE THE OVERALL 8 MOBILE EMISSIONS OF THE PROJECT, BUT WE DON’T HAVE THE TOOLS OR THE 9 TECHNOLOGY TO PREDICT AND ACTUALLY QUANTIFY WHAT PORTION OF 10 THOSE EMISSIONS WOULD BE REDUCED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF 11 THAT MEASURE OVER TIME. SO WHILE IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE 12 COMBINATION OF THE EFFICIENCY MEASURES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE 13 EIR COULD REDUCE THOSE EMISSIONS BELOW THAT NUMERIC THRESHOLD, 14 THE EIR’S CONSERVATIVE APPROACH ACKNOWLEDGES THAT, BUT WITHOUT 15 BEING ABLE TO SHOW NUMERICALLY THAT WE WOULD BE BELOW THE 16 THRESHOLD, WE’RE UNABLE TO SAY THAT THAT IS MITIGATED. SO THE 17 FINDING THERE IS THAT IT’S SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE, ACKNOWLEDGING 18 THAT WE WILL SEE A REDUCTION AND LIKELY HAVE A POSITIVE OUTCOME, 19 BUT WE CAN’T SAY CONFIDENTLY THAT WE WILL BE BELOW THAT NUMERIC 20 THRESHOLD. 21 AND THAT BEING SAID, WITH MITIGATION, THE PROJECT IS A 22 MUCH CLEANER PROJECT THAN ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, NOT 100 PERCENT 23 CLEAN ENERGY, PREDOMINANTLY RELATED TO MOBILE EMISSIONS, BUT 24 09369 McDaniel Court Reporters 23 (805) 544-3633 CLOSE, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE EXTENSIVE RANGE OF MITIGATIONS TO 1 ADDRESS AIR QUALITY EMISSIONS AND GREENHOUSE GASSES. 2 FURTHER, ANOTHER ASPECT OF AIR QUALITY IMPACTS RELATES 3 TO THE CLEAN AIR PLAN AND THE CITY’S CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. SO THE 4 PROJECT WOULD REMAIN INCONSISTENT WITH THE CLEAN AIR PLAN AND 5 THE LOCAL AND STATE (INAUDIBLE) GOALS, INCLUDING THE CLIMATE 6 ACTION PLAN LARGELY BECAUSE THE POPULATION PROJECTIONS IN THOSE 7 DOCUMENTS ARE OUTDATED. AND EMERGING GREENHOUSE GAS TARGETS 8 ARE MUCH MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN OUR ADOPTED LOCAL PLANS. SO FOR 9 THIS REASON, MITIGATION REQUIRES THE PROJECT TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE 10 GASSES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, INCLUDING ACHIEVING A NET ZERO 11 EMISSIONS FOR THE BUILDINGS PROPOSED ON THE SITE, AND ALSO 12 REDUCING MOBILE EMISSIONS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT’S IN 13 RESPONSE TO CHANGING TARGETS AND EMERGING LEGISLATION OF THE 14 STATE AND ALSO THE LOCAL LEVEL, LOCALS. OKAY. SHAWNA, NEXT SLIDE. 15 GREAT. SO WE ACKNOWLEDGED ALREADY THAT THE SITE IS 16 QUITE SENSITIVE, PARTICULARLY IN THE UPPER TERRACE FOR BIOLOGICAL 17 RESOURCES. IT’S VERY DIVERSE. THE RESOURCE VALUES ARE QUITE RICH. 18 THERE’S A DIVERSITY OF SENSITIVE SPECIES AND LIST OF SPECIES IN THIS 19 AREA THAT ARE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO MITIGATE. THE LOSS IS DIFFICULT 20 TO REPLACE, (INAUDIBLE) GRASS LANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT 21 AREN’T EASY TO REPLANT AND REPLENISH IN OTHER AREAS ON THE SITE OR 22 ELSEWHERE. SO BY AVOIDING THOSE IN THE UPPER TERRACE THAT WAS A 23 SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES AND AVOIDED THE 24 09370 McDaniel Court Reporters 24 (805) 544-3633 PROJECT SPECIFIC IMPACTS IDENTIFIED IN THE EIR FOR THE ORIGINAL 1 PROJECT. 2 AS A RESULT, THE BIOLOGICAL IMPACTS HAVE BEEN REDUCED 3 TO LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT WITH EXTENSIVE MITIGATION MEASURES. IT’S A 4 COMPREHENSIVE BIOLOGICAL RESOURCE PROGRAM THAT WOULD PERSIST 5 FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT IN FRONT OF US TODAY. AND THIS INCLUDES 6 DETAILED RESTORATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THE RELOCATION OF FROOM 7 CREEK, WETLAND PROTECTION AND REPLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS, AND 8 OTHER MITIGATIONS THAT WOULD ENSURE EITHER REPLACEMENT OR 9 RESTORATION AND PRESERVATION IN PLACE OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES ON 10 THE SITE. 11 THE ASPECT OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES THAT REMAINS 12 SIGNIFICANT UNAVOIDABLE IS THE CUMULATIVE LOSS. SO IN LOOKING AT 13 THE OVER ALL PICTURE FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND THE REGION IN TERMS OF 14 THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE LOCATION OF DEVELOPMENT, THIS 15 PROJECT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO THE CUMULATIVE LOSS OF BIOLOGICAL 16 RESOURCES. BUT AS A PROJECT SITE IN AND OF ITSELF, THOSE IMPACTS 17 WOULD BE MITIGATED. NEXT SLIDE. 18 GREAT. SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT AND ALTERNATIVE ONE, THE 19 CURRENT PROJECT WOULD STILL RESULT IN A LOSS OF THREE HISTORIC 20 STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE HISTORIC FROOM RANCH DAIRY 21 COMPLEX THAT EXISTS ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE SITE. THEY 22 CONTRIBUTE TO A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND SO EVEN THOUGH 23 FOUR OF THE STRUCTURES WOULD BE RETAINED AND RELOCATED ON THE 24 09371 McDaniel Court Reporters 25 (805) 544-3633 SITE, A LOSS OF THREE AS CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES WOULD BE 1 SIGNIFICANT UNDER CEQA AND THAT’S DISCLOSED IN THE EIR. 2 FURTHER RELATED TO HAZARDS AND SPECIFICALLY WILD FIRE 3 GIVEN THE SITE SETTING AT THE BASE OF THE IRISH HILLS AND THE FROOM 4 CREEK WATERSHED, THIS AREA CONTAINS THOUSANDS OF ACRES OF 5 VEGETATION. NEAR TO THE SITE IS MOSTLY GRASS LANDS. SO IF YOU’RE 6 LOOKING AT THE IRISH HILLS NATIONAL PRESERVE, THE HILLSIDE BEHIND 7 THE SITE IS MOSTLY GRASS LANDS, BUT AS YOU GO UP THE HILL AND OVER 8 THE CREST, THE VEGETATION GETS MORE DIVERSE, MORE SCRUB, MORE 9 VEGETATION, AND AS A RESULT, MORE FUEL. AND IN THAT SETTING, THE 10 RISK OF WILD FIRE PERSISTS, AND SO THE EIR IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN ISSUE. 11 AND THERE’S A POTENTIAL FOR EXACERBATION OF WILD FIRE AND THE 12 POTENTIAL FOR THE PROJECT SITE TO EXPERIENCE THE DIRECT IMPACTS OF 13 WILD FIRE, INCLUDING COAST FIRE DEBRIS FLOWS. THESE ISSUES HAVE 14 ALWAYS BEEN AN ASPECT OF CEQA, BUT WITH RECENT UPDATES TO THE 15 CEQA GUIDELINES, THESE SPECIFIC ASPECTS OF WILD FIRE HAVE BECOME 16 MORE DIRECT. AND WE WERE ASKED TO LOOK AT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS 17 RELATED TO THE LOCATION OF THE PROJECT. 18 SO THE EIR FULLY ANALYZES THE POTENTIAL FOR THESE 19 HAZARDS AND REQUIRES A ROBUST MITIGATION PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, 20 FROM AS MANY ANGLES AS WE CAN TAKE TO REDUCE FIRE RISK ON SITE HAS 21 BEEN INCLUDED INTO THE EIR, INCLUDING THE MEASURE THAT I USED AS AN 22 EXAMPLE PREVIOUSLY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 23 GREAT. AND SO WRAPPING UP, THE -- IN TERMS OF LAND USE, I 24 09372 McDaniel Court Reporters 26 (805) 544-3633 MENTIONED THE 150 FOOT LINE AS A THRESHOLD, AND IT SERVES AS A 1 THRESHOLD IN OUR LAND USE ANALYSIS BECAUSE OF THE RESOURCE 2 VALUES THAT EXIST ABOVE 150 FEET. AND IT RELATES TO CITY POLICIES, 3 ESPECIALLY IN THE INTEREST OF HILLSIDE PROTECTION. THE PROJECT -- 4 BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH A CLEAR LINE IN TERMS OF THE ANALYSIS AND 5 THE METHODOLOGY, SINCE THE PROJECT INCLUDES DEVELOPMENT ABOVE 6 THIS LINE IN THE QUARRY AREA ONLY, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO CONFLICT 7 WITH GENERAL PLAN POLICIES IN THIS AREA SPECIFICALLY. IN TERMS OF 8 VISUAL RESOURCES, WILD LIFE HAZARDS, AND THERE’S ALSO THE 9 CONTINUED CONFLICT ASSOCIATED WITH HISTORIC RESOURCES SINCE WE 10 WOULD BE HAVING A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT RELATED TO THE LOSS OF THE 11 THREE HISTORIC STRUCTURES ON SITE. 12 SO IN THAT, THE LINE INDICATES THAT THERE IS A CONTINUED 13 ISSUE. THAT BEING SAID, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE REDUCTION OF 14 DEVELOPMENT ABOVE 150 FEET IN THE UPPER TERRACE SUBSTANTIALLY 15 IMPROVED CONSISTENCY OF THE PROJECT WITH THOSE POLICIES, WITH 16 HILLSIDE PROTECTION POLICIES. AND THAT ISSUE REMAINS AND ITS FOCUS 17 IN THE EIR ONLY ON THE -- IN THE QUARRY AREA. 18 AND THEN LASTLY, IN TERMS OF TRANSPORTATION, ROADWAYS 19 INTERSECTIONS, THE EIR ACKNOWLEDGES THAT IMPACTS WOULD CONTINUE 20 FOR BOTH NEAR TERM AND CUMULATIVE SETTINGS FOR THE PROJECT. SO 21 NEAR TERM BEING IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS, AND CUMULATIVE AT THE, YOU 22 KNOW, 2030, AT THE END OF THE PROJECT. RELATED TO VEHICLE QUEUING, 23 PEEK HOUR TRAFFIC, AND OVER ALL LEVELS OF SERVICE, AND CONSIDERING 24 09373 McDaniel Court Reporters 27 (805) 544-3633 THE CITY’S MULTI-MODAL LEVEL OF SERVICE THRESHOLDS AND 1 GUIDELINES. SO THOSE ARE -- WE’RE NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS HERE, 2 BUT THAT’S BASICALLY THE TAKE AWAY IS THAT THE EIR IS SPECIFIC ABOUT 3 INTERSECTIONS AND LOCATIONS WHERE CONTRIBUTION OF THE PROJECT’S 4 TRIPS, NOW AND IN THE FUTURE, WOULD CREATE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS. 5 AND THOSE ARE ADDRESSED AND MITIGATED TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE. 6 NEXT SLIDE. 7 GREAT. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, JUST FOR CONTEXT, THE 8 FINAL EIR CONSIDERED FOUR ALTERNATIVES. MS. CREEL MENTIONED THIS, 9 WE ARE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE ONE MOSTLY. AND -- BUT WE ALSO 10 CONSIDERED OTHERS, INCLUDING A NO PROJECT SCENARIO WHERE THE 11 PROJECT WOULDN’T MOVE FORWARD. WE ALSO LOOKED AT AN 12 ALTERNATIVE THAT ADDRESSES THE -- A SIMILAR PROJECT, BUT ALL 13 RESIDENTIAL, SO NO COMMERCIAL COMPONENT. AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT 14 AN ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS A MINIMUM GENERAL PLAN SCENARIO. SO YOU 15 MIGHT RECALL FROM THE LAND USE ELEMENT UPDATE THAT THE SITE 16 LOOKED AT A RANGE; A HIGH RANGE AND A LOW RANGE FOR DEVELOPMENT 17 ON SITE. OUR ALTERNATIVES ANALYSIS TOOK THE MINIMUM TO 18 UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM AN IMPACTS 19 PERSPECTIVE FOR THE COMPARISON. 20 ULTIMATELY, ALTERNATIVE ONE, WHICH CONSIDERED THE 21 CLUSTERED VERSION OF THE PROJECT AND ELIMINATES URBAN 22 DEVELOPMENT ABOVE 150 FEET IN ELEVATION WAS ANALYZED AT A 23 PROJECT LEVEL OF DETAIL (INAUDIBLE) WITH COUNCIL’S DIRECTION TO 24 09374 McDaniel Court Reporters 28 (805) 544-3633 ALLOW AND APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE PROJECT AND 1 ULTIMATELY WAS FOUND TO BE THE ENVIRONMENT’S SUPERIOR 2 ALTERNATIVE COMPARED TO THE PROJECT AND THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES. 3 AND THAT FACTORED IN, NOT JUST ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS ASSESSMENT, 4 BUT ALSO THE PROJECT OBJECTIVES. 5 AND WITH THAT, I BELIEVE -- YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO 6 MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT INFORMATION. I’LL TURN 7 IT BACK OVER TO MS. CREEL. THANK YOU. 8 MS. CREEL: THANK YOU, ERIKA. SO THE REMAINDER OF STAFF’S 9 PRESENTATION IS DESIGNED TO HIT ON WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE SOME OF THE 10 KEY ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT. SO I’M GOING TO 11 RUN THROUGH THOSE. I’D SAY THERE’S ABOUT A HALF A DOZEN. 12 SO THE FIRST IS DEVELOPMENT OVER THE 150 FOOT ELEVATION. 13 THIS, OF COURSE, HAS BEEN A KEY ISSUE SINCE THE COUNCIL’S 14 AUTHORIZATION OF INITIATION OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN BACK IN 2016. THIS, 15 AGAIN, IS KIND OF A ZOOMED IN SHOT OF THE QUARRY AREA UNDER THE 16 CURRENT PROJECT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT PROPOSES 3.6 ACRES OF 17 PUBLIC TRAILHEAD PARK, 0.7 ACRES OF CONSERVATION OPEN SPACE, WHICH 18 WOULD BE SITUATED ALONG THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY WHERE THE FROOM 19 CREEK CHANNEL TRAVERSES THE QUARRY AREA, A 0.7 ACRE OF R3 MEDIUM 20 TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND 0.4 ACRE OF ROADWAY. 21 I MENTIONED THAT FOLLOWING CIRCULATION OF THE DRAFT 22 EIR, STAFF COORDINATED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE APPLICANT IN REVISING 23 THE SPECIFIC PLAN TO MAKE THIS A MOVE TOWARDS ALTERNATIVE ONE, 24 09375 McDaniel Court Reporters 29 (805) 544-3633 THE ACTIONABLE ALTERNATIVE. AND YOU KNOW, THAT COORDINATION 1 REALLY STARTED IN JANUARY WHEN THE CIRCULATION PERIOD ENDED, AND 2 IT EXTENDED THROUGH THE SPRING OF 2020 AND EARLY PARTS OF THE 3 SUMMER OF 2020. SO A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF COORDINATION TOOK 4 PLACE TO GET TO THIS DESIGN, WHICH IS NOW PERFECT FOR YOUR 5 CONSIDERATION. STAFF FELT WITH THIS DESIGN, THE APPLICANT REALLY 6 DID A GOOD JOB OF BALANCING THE BENEFITS OF PRESERVING THE LARGE 7 MAJORITY OF THE AREA ABOVE 150 FEET FOR PUBLIC RECREATIONAL USES 8 THAT SUPPORT THE ADJACENT OPEN SPACE AREA, WHILE ALSO PROVIDING A 9 PLACE MAKING OPPORTUNITY THROUGH URBAN DESIGN, AGAIN, AT THIS 10 UNIQUE LOCATION. THE PARK AT THE END OF THE RESIDENTIAL ROADWAY 11 WITHIN MADONNA FROOM RANCH, STAFF FELT, WOULD BENEFIT BOTH THE 12 RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE EAST AND THE OPEN SPACE AREAS TO THE WEST. 13 SO THE PUBLIC PARK, OF COURSE, WOULD PROVIDE RECREATIONAL 14 OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES, INCLUDING A 15 NEWLY INCORPORATED ACTIVE RECREATIONAL FIELD, WHICH WAS ADDED 16 INTO THE SPECIFIC PLAN JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO BASED ON 17 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 18 THE PROPOSED PARK AND TRAILHEAD USES, WE FELT, WERE 19 ALSO LOW IMPACT AND WOULD HELP SUPPORT THE FUNCTIONS OF THE 20 ADJACENT OPEN SPACE. THE PARK AT THIS LOCATION WOULD SERVE AS A 21 TRUE TRAILHEAD, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD LEAD INTO THE IRISH HILLS. THE 22 TRAIL CONNECTIVITY IS RIGHT THERE AT THE SPECIFIC PLAN BOUNDARY. 23 AND IT WOULD PROVIDE INCREASED ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY TO THOSE 24 09376 McDaniel Court Reporters 30 (805) 544-3633 RECREATIONAL FEATURES FOR, NOT ONLY THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES, BUT 1 THE COMMUNITY. 2 SO IN ADDITION TO STRIKING THAT BALANCE WITH THE 3 PROPOSED PARK LOCATION, WE FELT THAT THIS DESIGN WOULD ALSO 4 PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN, IN THIS 5 VERY UNIQUE AREA. THE PARK, AS ERIKA MENTIONED, WILL INCORPORATE 6 FOUR INDIVIDUALLY ELIGIBLE HISTORIC RANCH STRUCTURES THAT WERE 7 ALSO DETERMINED TO BE CONTRIBUTORS TO THE FROOM RANCH DAIRY 8 COMPLEX HISTORIC DISTRICT. SO THAT’S ACTUALLY A CHANGE BETWEEN 9 ALTERNATIVE ONE AND THE CURRENT PROJECT THAT I DIDN’T MENTION 10 EARLIER. ALTERNATIVE ONE ONLY INCORPORATED THREE OF THOSE 11 STRUCTURES BASED ON THE TECHNICAL ANALYSIS PREPARED BY THE 12 APPLICANT’S ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIAN CONSULTANT AND WAS PEER 13 REVIEWED BY THE WOOD TEAM. WITH THEIR APPLICANT REVISED 14 ALTERNATIVE ONE, THEY ELECTED TO ADD THE FOURTH STRUCTURE, AGAIN, 15 BECAUSE IT WAS INDIVIDUALLY ELIGIBLE. 16 SO YOU HAVE THESE FOUR INDIVIDUALLY ELIGIBLE HISTORIC 17 RANCH STRUCTURES THAT ARE GOING TO BE RELOCATED INTO THIS PARK, 18 WHICH WE FELT PROVIDED A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR URBAN DESIGN. 19 THE EIR IDENTIFIED THE NEED FOR SPECIAL DESIGN 20 CONSIDERATIONS FOR ALL ADJACENT STRUCTURES ADJACENT TO THE PARK 21 AND THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES TO ENSURE THAT THEIR DESIGN IS 22 COMPATIBLE WITH THE HISTORIC FROOM RANCH DAIRY BUILDINGS. AND 23 THAT POLICY WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE SPECIFIC PLAN AS A POLICY, 24 09377 McDaniel Court Reporters 31 (805) 544-3633 AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN WAS DESIGNED THAT WAY. AND SUBSEQUENT TO 1 THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING IN AUGUST, ONE OF THEIR 2 RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO FURTHER ADD A REQUIREMENT THAT THE 3 DESIGN OF THESE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES CONSIDER 4 FARMHOUSE VERNACULAR. AND SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THESE FOUR VERY 5 UNIQUE HISTORIC STRUCTURES, POLICIES IN PLACE TO CREATE SOME UNIQUE 6 DESIGN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ADJACENT TO IT IN A WAY THAT WE 7 REALLY FELT WOULD HELP PRESERVE AND TELL THE HISTORY OF THE 8 FROOM RANCH DAIRY FARM IN THIS MORE NATURAL SETTING ADJACENT TO 9 THE IRISH HILLS. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, SHAWNA. 10 SO FINALLY, THIS FIGURE SHOULD SHOW YOU WHY WE’VE BEEN 11 REFERRING TO IT AS THE QUARRY AREA. JOHN MADONNA CONSTRUCTION 12 AND THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS USED THIS AREA ABOVE 150 AS A SMARA 13 PERMITTED ACTIVE QUARRY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND SO AS YOU CAN 14 TELL, ALMOST THE ENTIRE AREA OF THE YELLOW 150 FOOT ELEVATION 15 CONTOUR IS HEAVILY DISTURBED. THIS IS, I BELIEVE, A MID-2018 PHOTO. 16 AND WE WENT BACK SEVERAL YEARS AND THERE IS EXTENSIVE 17 DISTURBANCE THROUGHOUT THE SITE, INCLUDING THE BASELINE 18 CONDITIONS WHEN WE INITIATED THE ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS. 19 SO IN ADDITION TO THE UNIQUE PLACE MAKING OPPORTUNITIES, 20 WE FELT THE DESIGN PROVIDED AND WHICH I DISCUSSED ON THE PREVIOUS 21 SLIDE, THE SITE JUST DOESN’T REALLY CONTAIN THE RESOURCES THAT WE 22 FELT WERE INTENDED TO BE PROTECTED BY THE 150 FOOT DEVELOPMENT 23 LIMIT. SORRY SHAWNA. CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE? 24 09378 McDaniel Court Reporters 32 (805) 544-3633 THE AREA, AS YOU CAN TELL, IS JUST VERY HEAVILY 1 DISTURBED. IT’S PRACTICALLY DEVOID OF BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES. THE 2 SITE IS NOT HIGHLY VISIBLE FROM PUBLIC ROADS. AS ERIKA DESCRIBED, 3 THE SIGNIFICANT VISUAL IMPACT IS REALLY FROM THE OPEN SPACE TRAILS 4 IN THE IRISH HILLS; IT’S NOT VISIBLE FROM REALLY ANY OTHER PORTION OR 5 PUBLIC VANTAGE POINT FROM WITHIN THE DEVELOPED AREA OF THE CITY. 6 THE NATURAL GRADES AND SLOPES OF THIS AREA HAVE BEEN 7 SUBSTANTIALLY ALTERED, AND EVEN THE ELEVATION, WHICH THE 8 DEVELOPMENT LIMIT, OF COURSE, IS BASED ON, HAS FLUCTUATED OVER THE 9 COURSE OF DECADES BY AS MUCH AS -- THE PROPERTY OWNER ESTIMATES, 10 BY AS MUCH AS 50 FEET. 11 SO THE 150 FOOT ELEVATION WAS, YOU KNOW, INTENDED TO 12 PROTECT THESE RESOURCES; GEOLOGIC, BIOLOGICAL, ARCHEOLOGICAL, 13 VISUAL, WHICH ARE KNOWN TO EXIST AT AND ABOVE THAT ELEVATION IN 14 THE FOOTHILLS THAT SURROUND THE CITY. BUT IN THE CASE OF THIS 15 QUARRY LOCATION, WE JUST FELT THOSE RESOURCES WEREN’T THERE, 16 WHICH FURTHER JUSTIFIED A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVING THAT 17 REQUESTED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT. 18 IN ADDITION, THE EIR DETERMINED THAT THIS LAND USE 19 CONFIGURATION, WHICH IS, OF COURSE, MIRRORS ALTERNATIVE ONE, THE 20 ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE, WOULD REDUCE SIGNIFICANT 21 ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT BY RELOCATING 22 THOSE STRUCTURES ADJACENT TO THE OPEN SPACE IN A MORE NATURAL 23 SETTING. THE RELOCATION OF THOSE STRUCTURES WOULD ALSO MOVE 24 09379 McDaniel Court Reporters 33 (805) 544-3633 THEM -- YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE GRAPHIC, THE FOUR BOXES IDENTIFY THE 1 FOUR ELIGIBLE STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE RELOCATED TO THE WEST. 2 THOSE ARE CURRENTLY ADJACENT TO HOME DEPOT, YOU KNOW, AND ARE 3 PROPOSED TO BE SURROUNDED BY FURTHER DEVELOPED USES. AND SO BY 4 PLACING THEM IN A MORE NATURAL SETTING ABOVE 150, THAT WOULD 5 REALLY FURTHER THAT PLACE MAKING OPPORTUNITY, WHICH AGAIN, IS, WE 6 FEEL, UNIQUE TO THAT QUARRY AREA BECAUSE IT DOESN’T EXIST TO THAT 7 EXTENT IN THE CURRENT LOCATION ADJACENT TO HOME DEPOT. 8 AND THEN LASTLY, THE EIR ALSO DETERMINED THIS 9 CONFIGURATION WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE WILD FIRE RISKS. ERIKA 10 TOUCHED ON THIS, THAT BY PROVIDING A BUFFER OF THOSE LOW IMPACT 11 LOW DENSITY USES WHILE ALSO INCREASING CONSTRUCTED EMERGENCY 12 ACCESS POINTS TO THE INTERFACE. SO THE PROJECT WOULD PROVIDE THREE 13 BUILT EMERGENCY ACCESS POINTS TO THE INTERFACE WHICH CURRENTLY 14 DON’T EXIST TODAY. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 15 THESE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS OF THE QUARRY AREA. I 16 PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE PUT LESS TO A SLIDE SO YOU CAN SEE THEM, BUT 17 AGAIN, THROUGHOUT YOU CAN SEE LARGE AMOUNTS OF MATERIAL 18 STAGING. THE PHOTO AT THE TOP LEFT, YOU CAN SEE THERE’S STOCKPILING 19 OF MATERIAL, WHICH REACHES -- EXTENDS ABOVE THE BOTTOM OF THE 20 WATER TANK. THE OTHER THREE PHOTOS SHOW EXTENSIVE GRADING, YOU 21 KNOW, AGAIN, STOCKPILING OF CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS AND QUARRY 22 MATERIALS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 23 ANOTHER KEY ISSUE, AS ERIKA MENTIONED, IS WILD FIRE, 24 09380 McDaniel Court Reporters 34 (805) 544-3633 PARTICULARLY NOW WHEN WE’RE EXPERIENCING THESE NEVER SEEN 1 BEFORE EFFECTS FROM WILD FIRES. THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO TALK 2 ABOUT ON THIS SLIDE WAS -- AS YOU CAN TELL IN THE GRAPHIC FROM THE 3 LEFT, THE ENTIRE CITY OF SLO IS WITHIN A FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE. 4 THE MAJORITY OF IT IN YELLOW IS IN THE MODERATE FIRE HAZARD 5 SEVERITY ZONE. AND SMALL PORTIONS ALONG THE FRINGE, INCLUDING 6 ADJACENT TO THE FROOM RANCH SITE ARE WITHIN THE HIGH AND THE VERY 7 HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE. THE PROJECT BOUNDARY CAN BE SEEN 8 IN BLACK IN THAT GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT. AND IF YOU ZOOM IN, THE 9 GRAPHIC ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THOSE ZONES MORE CLEARLY. ERIKA 10 PROVIDED THIS GRAPHIC AS WELL. SO THOSE VERY HIGH FIRE HAZARD 11 SEVERITY ZONES DO EXIST, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN PORTIONS OF THE UPPER 12 TERRACE, AS WELL AS A VERY SMALL CORNER OF THE QUARRY AREA. BOTH 13 OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE MAINTAINED IN OPEN SPACE. SO THE PROJECT 14 DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY DEVELOPMENT WITHIN A VERY HIGH OR EVEN IN 15 HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE. IT’S WITHIN THE MODERATE ZONE 16 CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY. 17 STAFF DID COORDINATE EXTENSIVELY WITH THE FIRE 18 MARSHALL ON THIS ISSUE OVER THE COURSE OF YEARS. I DO FEEL 19 FORTUNATE THAT OUR EIR CONSULTANT TEAM IS BASED IN SANTA 20 BARBARA. AND THEY STARTED WORKING ON THIS PROJECT RIGHT ON THE 21 HEELS, OR JUST BEFORE AND THEN GOT KICKED OFF RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF 22 THE THOMAS FIRE, WHICH OF COURSE HAD DEVASTATING IMPACTS ON THEIR 23 COMMUNITY. SO THEY WERE ON TOP OF THIS ISSUE REALLY EARLY. THEY 24 09381 McDaniel Court Reporters 35 (805) 544-3633 HAD LOOKED AT IT REALLY AGGRESSIVELY IN THE EIR AND MADE SOME 1 REALLY CONSERVATIVE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS AND FINDINGS 2 RELATED TO THE ISSUE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 3 THE PROJECT PROPOSED RECONFIGURATION OF AN EXISTING AG 4 AND OPEN SPACE EASEMENT. THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION IS SHOWN IN 5 RED. THE PROPOSED AMENDED CONFIGURATION IS SHOWN IN BLUE. I DON’T 6 THINK I WANT TO SAY A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THIS EXCEPT THAT WE VETTED, 7 YOU KNOW, THE AG AGREEMENT. THE EXISTING AGREEMENT DOES PROVIDE 8 FOR AMENDMENT. WE HAVE COORDINATED WITH LAFCO ON THIS PROPOSED 9 RECONFIGURATION. AND IT DOES APPEAR TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE 10 ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE AGREEMENT AND CONSISTENT WITH THE 11 PURPOSES OF THAT EASEMENT. 12 IN ADDITION TO THAT EASEMENT, AS SHOWN HERE, THE ENTIRE 13 UPPER TERRACE IS PROPOSED TO BE ZONED AS CONSERVATION AND OPEN 14 SPACE. LOT ONE, WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS THAT UPPER TERRACE AREA IS 15 NOT AT THIS TIME PROPOSED TO BE ADDED TO THE IRISH HILLS OR 16 DEDICATED TO THE CITY. HOWEVER NOTHING IN THE PROJECT WOULD 17 PRECLUDE THAT FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. THE CITY IS REQUIRING 18 THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PERMANENT CONSERVATION EASEMENT OVER 19 THAT OPEN SPACE AREA AS A REQUIREMENT TO FINAL MAP RECORDATION. 20 AND THAT’S AS PROVIDED HERE ON CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 36, 21 WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN HINDSIGHT, COULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER. BUT WE 22 DID CONFIRM WITH THE APPLICANT, THEY ARE INCLINED TO MAKE THAT, 23 YOU KNOW -- PLACE THAT EASEMENT OVER THE UPPER TERRACE IN LOT ONE. 24 09382 McDaniel Court Reporters 36 (805) 544-3633 SO THAT IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF FINAL MAP RECORDATION. 1 AND THE CITY HAS ALSO HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS 2 WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THE FUTURE 3 DEDICATION OF THIS LAND TO THE CITY. WE DID NOT FEEL LIKE WE COULD 4 REQUIRE IT AS A PART OF THIS PROJECT; THERE WAS NO NEXUS FOR MAKING 5 THAT REQUIREMENT, AND WE COULD NOT MAKE DEDICATION OF THE LAND 6 A QUID PRO QUO FOR PROJECT APPROVAL. SO STAFF’S RECOMMENDATION IS 7 TO PERMANENTLY CONSERVE IT WITH AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT 8 CONSISTENT WITH CONDITION OF APPROVAL NUMBER 36, AND THEN 9 CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLICANT TEAM 10 INTO THE FUTURE REGARDING A FUTURE DEDICATION TO THE CITY 11 FOLLOWING THIS COUNCIL’S CONSIDERATION AND THE ANNEXATION 12 PROCEEDINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 13 OKAY. WE’RE ALMOST DONE. THIS ISSUE IS ONE THAT WAS 14 BROUGHT UP BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND THE PLANNING 15 COMMISSION DIRECTED STAFF TO PRESENT OPTIONS FOR A DEDICATED BIKE 16 WAY ON ONE OR BOTH SIDES OF LOCAL ROAD A FROM THE ROUND ABOUT TO 17 THE PROPOSED (INAUDIBLE) PARK -- 18 MS. CHRISTIANSON: NEXT SLIDE. NEXT SLIDE. WE’RE NOT THERE. 19 MAYOR HARMON: SORRY, YOU GUYS. MY COMPUTER FROZE. LET ME 20 REGROUP HERE. 21 MS. CREEL: NINETEEN. THERE YOU GO. PERFECT. AND CAN YOU 22 CLICK ONCE MORE, SHAWNA? THANK YOU. 23 OKAY. SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTED STAFF TO 24 09383 McDaniel Court Reporters 37 (805) 544-3633 PRESENT OPTIONS TO YOU FOR A DEDICATED BIKE WAY ALONG THIS 1 PORTION OF LOCAL ROAD A SHOWN IN YELLOW FROM THE INTERNAL ROUND 2 ABOUT TO THE PROPOSED PARK. SO WE COORDINATED WITH THE APPLICANT 3 TEAM OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO DEVELOP WHAT 4 WE BELIEVE ARE SOME VIABLE OPTIONS FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT. AND I AM 5 GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO LUKE SCHWARTZ TO DESCRIBE THOSE OPTIONS 6 AND ALSO TOUCH ON A NUMBER OF OTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED 7 TOPICS. 8 MR. LUKE SCHWARTZ: THANK YOU, EMILY. CAN I GET A THUMBS UP 9 IF EVERYONE HEARS ME OKAY? PERFECT. AS EMILY MENTIONED, THERE 10 WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK AT 11 SOME STRATEGIES TO PROVIDE A DEDICATED BICYCLE CONNECTION ALONG 12 LOCAL ROAD A, WHICH ESSENTIALLY CONNECTS THE INTERNAL ROUND 13 ABOUT AT THE CENTER OF THE SITE WEST UP TO THE FUTURE TRAILHEAD 14 PARK. WE WORKED WITH THE PROJECT APPLICANT AND HAVE IDENTIFIED A 15 COUPLE OF OPTIONS WE THINK ARE DOABLE. AND WE HAVE A CONDITION 16 THAT’S PROVIDED IN THE RESOLUTION THAT PROVIDES DIRECTION TO 17 EXPLORE ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS IF THERE’S SPECIFIC PREFERENCE OR 18 DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL ON ONE OPTION VERSUS THE OTHER, WE 19 CERTAINLY WELCOME THAT AT THIS TIME TONIGHT. 20 THE CURRENT PROPOSAL WAS SHOWN ON THE SLIDE ABOVE. 21 BASICALLY, IT REQUIRES A SHARED STREET, A TRAFFIC CALM, CLASS THREE 22 BIKE WAY WHERE CYCLISTS RIDE IN THE STREET AND SHARE THE LANE WITH 23 DRIVERS. THAT’S WHAT CURRENTLY PROPOSED. THE TWO ALTERNATE 24 09384 McDaniel Court Reporters 38 (805) 544-3633 OPTIONS THAT WE LOOKED AT -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 1 THE FIRST ONE INCLUDES PROVIDING JUST REGULAR STRIPED 2 DEDICATED BIKE LANES ALONG THE STREET. THE TRADE OFF WITH THIS IS, 3 BASED ON THE AVAILABLE WIDTH OF THIS STREET, WE HAVE TO ELIMINATE 4 THE LANDSCAPED PARKWAY THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED ALONG THE 5 SIDEWALKS. 6 OPTION TWO -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE -- WOULD PROVIDE KIND OF 7 A HYBRID BETWEEN A SHARED STREET AND A DEDICATED BICYCLE LANE 8 CALLED AN ADVISORY BIKE LANE. THESE ARE ESSENTIALLY A DASHED 9 STRIPED BIKE LANES. THE CYCLIST HAS THEIR OWN RIGHT OF WAY THAT 10 THEY STAY IN. THE DRIVERS KIND OF SHARE A NARROWER CENTER TURN 11 LANE, WHICH ADDS A TRAFFIC CALMING EFFECT. AND THEY GENERALLY 12 FORCE TO YIELD TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY HAVE A CONFLICT. NEXT 13 SLIDE PROVIDES JUST KIND OF AN EXAMPLE PHOTO OF WHAT THAT LOOKS 14 LIKE. THESE HAVE BEEN USED IN OTHER LOCATIONS. THEY HELP CALM 15 TRAFFIC, AND THEY PROVIDE EXPERIENCE FOR THE CYCLISTS OF HAVING A 16 DEDICATED BIKE LANE. AND IN A LOCATION WHERE WE HAVE LIMITED 17 WIDTH AND CAN’T WIDEN THE ROAD FOR BIKES, FULLY DEDICATED LANES, 18 OR PARKING, OR OTHER FEATURES. SO THOSE ARE TWO OPTIONS, WE COULD 19 ACHIEVE THAT GOAL. LIKE I SAID, IF THERE’S SPECIFIC PREFERENCE FOR 20 ONE OR THE OTHER, WE WELCOME THAT INPUT TONIGHT. BUT EITHER WAY 21 WE THINK THERE’S A WAY TO GET A BETTER CONNECTION IN TO SERVE THE 22 PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION’S 23 RECOMMENDATION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 24 09385 McDaniel Court Reporters 39 (805) 544-3633 JUST MOVING ON TO LARGER KIND OF TRANSPORTATION FOCUS. 1 TRANSPORTATION IS A KEY FOCUS HERE FOR ALMOST EVERY DEVELOPMENT 2 PROJECT. AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. I’LL BRIEFLY TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF 3 KEY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP BASED ON THE CORRESPONDENCE AND 4 INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ON HERE 5 IN OUR PRESENTATION. 6 FIRST OFF, THE ANALYSIS FINDINGS OF THE EIR ARE SUPPORTED 7 BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND A COMPREHENSIVE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY 8 THAT WAS CLEARED FOR THE PROJECT. IF YOU SEE IT IN THE APPENDIX, IT’S 9 THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF ANALYSIS. IT LOOKED AT THE WHOLE SOUTHSIDE 10 OF TOWN ESSENTIALLY, 24 INTERSECTIONS, 13 ROADWAY SEGMENTS, 11 INTERCHANGES ON LOVR AT THE FUTURE PRADO INTERCHANGE AND 12 MADONNA, AND BASICALLY EACH OF THE SOUTH HIGUERA, AND MADONNA, 13 AND LOVR CORRIDORS, AS WELL AS PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS, SUCH AS AT THE 14 LOS VERDES ACCESS POINT ON LOVR NEAR SOUTH HIGUERA. 15 THE ANALYSIS INCLUDED -- NOT ONLY LOOKED AT EXISTING 16 TRAFFIC PATTERNS, BUT A KIND OF FORECAST AHEAD TO SAY, WELL, WHAT 17 ARE THE IMPACTS OR POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS PROJECT IN A FIVE-YEAR 18 HORIZON, WHEN OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE ARE LIKELY TO 19 BE BUILT AND OCCUPIED AT THE TIME WHEN THIS PROJECT WOULD BE 20 CONSTRUCTED AND READY TO START ADDING TRAFFIC TO THE STREET 21 NETWORK, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT KIND OF A LONG TERM 20-PLUS YEAR 22 HORIZON WITH (INAUDIBLE) WITH THE CITY TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT 23 IMPACTS OCCUR IN THE LONG TERM, AND CAN WE MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT 24 09386 McDaniel Court Reporters 40 (805) 544-3633 IS PROVIDING A FAIR SHARE OF CONTRIBUTION OR STRATEGY TO HELP 1 MITIGATE THIS IN THE LONG TERM WHEN THEY ARE TRIGGERED. 2 FREQUENT CONCERNS THAT WE SEE ARE OBVIOUSLY CONCERNS 3 REGARDING TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON THE LOVR CORRIDOR AND THE KIND 4 OF SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN IN GENERAL. THIS HAS BEEN STUDIED A LOT WITH 5 RECENT PROJECTS SUCH AS AVILA RANCH AND SAN LUIS RANCH. A LOT OF 6 THE ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ARE NOT NEW; THERE ARE ALREADY 7 STRATEGIES IN PLACE OR IN PROGRESS TO HELP ADDRESS THESE. 8 WE ANALYZED THE LOVR CORRIDOR IN A LOT OF DETAIL, AND 9 PARTICULARLY THE LOVR HIGHWAY 101 INTERCHANGE. THE EIR LOOKS AT 10 BOTH EXISTING AND FUTURE OPERATIONS AND TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AT 11 THESE LOCATIONS AND IDENTIFIES NECESSARY MITIGATION TO REDUCE OR 12 ELIMINATE THESE TRAFFIC IMPACTS TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE, INCLUDING 13 PROJECTS THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS DIRECTLY IMPLEMENTING AS WELL 14 AS REQUIRING FAIR SHARE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS FUTURE 15 IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO BE BUILT BY OTHERS OR BY 16 THE CITY. 17 THESE INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, OPTIMIZING THE SIGNAL TIMINGS 18 ALONG THE WHOLE LOVR CORRIDOR, WHICH THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT IS 19 REQUIRED TO PROVIDE, ALSO CONSTRUCTING CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS AT 20 THE LOVR INTERCHANGE. AND THAT SAID, THERE ARE STILL GOING TO BE 21 SOME SIGNIFICANT NOTABLE IMPACTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE EIR 22 THAT REALISTICALLY CAN’T BE FULLY RESOLVED UNTIL THE PRADO 23 INTERCHANGE IS FULLY COMPLETED. 24 09387 McDaniel Court Reporters 41 (805) 544-3633 IN ANALYZING THE LOVR CORRIDOR, WE LOOKED IN DETAIL AT 1 THE LOS VERDES PARK PRIVATE DRIVE (INAUDIBLE) ACCESS IS. AS WE 2 KNOW, THERE’S CONCERNS THERE WITH FINDING ADEQUATE GAPS TO MAKE 3 LEFT TURNS IN AND OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS. THE CITY HAS LOOKED AT 4 THIS IN THE PAST AND HAS IMPLEMENTED SOME STRATEGY TO HELP 5 RESOLVE THESE ISSUES TO THE EXTENT FEASIBLE, INCLUDING STRIPING 6 LOVR WITH A SINGLE LANE TO HELP PROVIDE MORE GAPS, LOOKING AT 7 WAYS TO MODIFY SIGNAL TIMINGS AND RIGHT TURNS AT HIGUERA AND 8 LOVR INTERSECTION TO HELP PROVIDE MORE GAPS. WE ANALYZED THIS A 9 LOT AND IT’S PART OF THIS EIR DISCUSSED IN DETAIL. AND THE FINDINGS, 10 YOU KNOW, ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH PREVIOUS ANALYSIS WE’VE 11 DONE TO SHOW, YOU KNOW, AT THIS TIME INSTALLATION OF SOMETHING 12 LIKE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON TO PROVIDE MORE 13 OPPORTUNITIES TO ACCESS THAT INTERSECTION ARE JUST NOT WARRANTED 14 AT THIS TIME. AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE GENERAL PLAN AND 15 CIRCULATION ELEMENT RECOMMENDED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE 16 GREATEST POTENTIAL TO IMPROVE DIRECT ACCESS TO THESE PROPERTIES IS 17 GOING TO BE WITH THE ULTIMATE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE 18 ADJACENT CREEKSIDE PARCELS JUST TO THE WEST. 19 THERE’S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT LACK OF MULTI-MODAL 20 TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE AND ABILITY OF RESIDENTS OF THIS 21 PROJECT AND OTHER PARTS OF TOWN TO USE THAT FOR TRANSPORTATION 22 OR TRANSIT TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B. THIS PROJECT IS REQUIRED 23 TO DIRECTLY CONSTRUCT SEVERAL KIND OF REALLY SIGNIFICANT ACTIVE 24 09388 McDaniel Court Reporters 42 (805) 544-3633 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING 1 A NEW BUS STOP AT THE LOVR AUTO PARK INTERSECTION RIGHT AT THE 2 GATEWAY TO THE PROJECT, DIRECTLY CONSTRUCTING ABOUT TWO MILES OF 3 PROTECTED BIKE LANES ALONG THE FULL LOVR CORRIDOR. THAT’S 4 REQUIRED BEFORE OCCUPANCY OF ANY OF THESE UNITS. AND THEN 5 REALLY, BEST PRACTICE, IMPROVEMENTS AT THE LOVR AND AUTO PARK 6 INTERSECTION INCLUDING CONSTRUCTING IT AS A BICYCLE PROTECTED 7 INTERSECTION, SIGNALIZING THE INTERSECTION WITH SIGNALIZED 8 PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, PEDESTRIAN REFUGES AND HEAD START 9 PEDESTRIAN TIMINGS. 10 AND THEN THERE’S ALSO FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTIONS 11 TOWARDS OTHER LONGER TERM REGIONAL ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION 12 PROJECTS LIKE THE REDWOOD SAFETY TRAIL AND THE BOB JONES TRAIL 13 WITHIN THE CITY. 14 WE’VE HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TOO ABOUT THE MODE 15 SHARE FOR THIS PROJECT. WE HAVE KIND OF LONG TERM MODE SHARE 16 TARGETS ESTABLISHED IN THE GENERAL PLAN. I WANT TO NOTE THAT FOR 17 THE PURPOSES OF CEQA ANALYSIS OF TRAFFIC IMPACTS, WE GENERALLY 18 HAVE TO BE VERY CONSERVATIVE IN WHAT OUR MODE SHARE ASSUMPTIONS 19 ARE SO THAT WE’RE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSING KIND OF THE WORST CASE 20 OFF SITE TRAFFIC IMPACTS. SO FOR THIS PROJECT, WE BASICALLY ASSUME 21 THAT THE MODE SHARE WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE SEE IN THE 22 TRAFFIC COUNTS NOW, WHICH IS ALONG THIS STRETCH, THE BIKE AND 23 PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT GREAT. SO THAT REFLECTS KIND OF A 24 09389 McDaniel Court Reporters 43 (805) 544-3633 WORST CASE CONDITION AND NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE MODE SHARE 1 WILL LOOK LIKE WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS PROJECT WOULD 2 BUILD AND WITH OTHER LONGER TERM INVESTMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE 3 IN THIS SIDE OF TOWN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 4 WE’VE SEEN OTHER QUESTIONS AND ITEMS REGARDING OFF SITE 5 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, THE PHASING, AND ABILITY TO 6 IMPLEMENT THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THIS ANALYSIS IS PRETTY COMPLEX 7 JUST CONSIDERING THE OVERLAPPING TIMING AND ACTIVITY WITH, NOT 8 ONLY OTHER KIND OF LARGE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE SAN LUIS 9 RANCH AND AVILA RANCH, BUT ALSO SEVERAL KEY CITY LED PROJECTS 10 THAT ARE IN PROCESS, LIKE THE PRADO INTERCHANGE. 11 SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE 12 EIR ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN CONSTRUCTION NOW SINCE WE 13 STARTED THIS STUDY. THE ANALYSIS, AGAIN, LOOKED AT KIND OF THE 14 WORST CASE SCENARIO SAYING, OKAY, IF SAN LUIS RANCH, AND AVILA 15 RANCH, AND 20 OF THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE 16 CURRENT PIPELINE ALL BUILD OUT, AND THE PRADO INTERCHANGE IS NOT IN 17 PLACE YET, WHAT DO THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS LOOK LIKE? AND AS YOU SEE, 18 THAT RESULTS IN SOME IMPACTS THAT JUST CAN’T BE MITIGATED WITHOUT 19 THE PRADO ROAD INTERCHANGE. WE’RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON 20 DELIVERING THAT PROJECT. IT’S REALLY THE HIGHEST PRIORITY 21 INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT IN THE CITY. IT PROVIDES RELIEF NOT ONLY FOR 22 THE LOVR CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO THE MADONNA INTERCHANGE. 23 RIGHT NOW, WE’RE IN PROGRESS WITH DETAILED -- ORDINARY 24 09390 McDaniel Court Reporters 44 (805) 544-3633 DESIGN AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW. AND THE ETA WOULD BE 1 CONSTRUCTION STARTING ON THE INTERCHANGES AT THE EARLIEST, IS LATE 2 2022 WITH ABOUT A FOUR-YEAR SCHEDULE TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION BY 3 2026. 4 ANOTHER KIND OF OFF SITE IMPROVEMENT THAT THE 5 QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ASKED ABOUT TIMING IS THE BUCKLEY ROAD 6 EXTENSION. IF YOU RECALL, THIS PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO BE 7 CONSTRUCTED BY THE AVILA RANCH DEVELOPMENT. IT’S REQUIRED PRIOR 8 TO THEIR PHASE TWO. PHASE TWO AND BEYOND REPRESENTS ABOUT 80 9 PLUS PERCENT OF THEIR PROJECT TRAFFIC. THEY CAN’T DO BEYOND THAT 10 POINT UNTIL THE BUCKLEY EXTENSION IS IN PLACE. THE MOST RECENT 11 DISCUSSIONS WITH THE APPLICANT TEAM INDICATES THAT THEY ARE VERY 12 MOTIVATED AND PLAN TO WORK TOWARDS CONSTRUCTING THAT 13 EXTENSION WITHIN ABOUT THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF OR SO. THE 14 DESIGNS ARE DONE, THE PERMITTING IS DONE WITH THE COUNTY. THE 15 PROJECT IS ESSENTIALLY SHOVEL READY AND JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO 16 PROCEED. 17 SIMILARLY, WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HIGUERA AND TANK 18 FARM INTERSECTION THAT ARE ALSO REQUIRED BY AVILA RANCH PRIOR TO 19 PHASE ONE. SO GETTING THE BIG PICTURE OF THE TIMING OF ALL OF THESE 20 IS DEFINITELY COMPLEX, AND WE TRIED TO DO OUR BEST WITH THE EIR TO 21 STRUCTURE THE TIMING AND THIS PROJECT’S CONTRIBUTION TO THOSE IN A 22 REASONABLE WAY. 23 BASED ON THE FINDINGS, THE APPLICANT IS EITHER REQUIRED 24 09391 McDaniel Court Reporters 45 (805) 544-3633 TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT DIRECTLY OR CONTRIBUTE FAIR SHARE 1 CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED DAY 2 ONE, BUT ARE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. 3 I WANT TO MAKE A REALLY CLEAR DISTINCTION BETWEEN A 4 DIRECT PROJECT IMPACT THAT THIS PROJECT IS DIRECTLY TRIGGERING AND 5 IS REQUIRED TO MITIGATE OFF THE BAT; VERSUS IMPACTS THAT ARE 6 CUMULATIVELY CONSIDERABLE, WHICH MEANS THE PROJECT IS 7 CONTRIBUTING SOME PORTION TOWARDS AN IMPACT BUT IT’S REALLY THE 8 COMBINATION OF THIS PROJECT AND EVERY OTHER DEVELOPMENT PLAN 9 THAT’S IN THE PIPELINE THAT’S CREATING THESE ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. IN 10 THOSE INSTANCES, THIS PROJECT IS EITHER REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT THE 11 IMPROVEMENTS THEMSELVES, OR IF THE PROJECTS, LIKE THE BUCKLEY 12 EXTENSION OR PRADO INTERCHANGE ARE REQUIRED TO BE CONSTRUCTED 13 BY OTHERS, THE PROJECT CAN’T PROCEED BEYOND THE PHASE THAT 14 TRIGGERS THAT IMPACT, OR IF THEY’RE READY TO PROCEED AND THOSE OFF 15 SITE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE NOT YET BEEN COMPLETED BY OTHERS, THE EIR 16 IDENTIFIES ALTERNATIVE MITIGATION STRATEGIES THAT AT LEAST IMPROVE 17 THEIR PROPORTIONAL CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THAT IMPACT. 18 CEQA GUIDELINES REALLY REQUIRE THAT THE PROJECT 19 PROVIDE A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS FUTURE IMPACTS THAT 20 ARE CUMULATIVELY CONSIDERABLE; EITHER THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN A 21 FEE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES A MECHANISM TO IMPLEMENT THOSE OVER 22 TIME; OR WITH DIRECT COST, FAIR SHARE FEES. WE’VE LOOKED AT THAT IN 23 DETAIL IN PART OF THE EIR. THERE’S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS, SAY, WELL, IF 24 09392 McDaniel Court Reporters 46 (805) 544-3633 SOMEONE IS PAYING INTO THE FEE PROGRAM, WHAT’S THE GUARANTEE OR 1 MECHANISM TO MAKE SURE THOSE PROJECTS GET IMPLEMENTED? THAT’S 2 REALLY THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING A FEE PROGRAM IS THAT WE’RE ABLE 3 TO COLLECT FAIR SHARE FUNDS FROM EVERY DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY 4 THAT MAY ONLY HAVE A SMALL SHARE IMPACTING THE PROJECT, BUT 5 WE’RE ABLE TO COLLECT FUNDS TO BUILD THOSE. THOSE ARE EITHER 6 IMPLEMENTED DIRECTLY AS CITY CIP PROJECTS WHEN THEY’RE WARRANTED 7 IN THE FUTURE; OR MORE COMMONLY, THERE’S PROJECT LEVEL ANALYSIS 8 FOR A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS THAT FINDS IT’S A DIRECT PROJECT IMPACT 9 THAT THIS IMPROVEMENT IS NEEDED DAY ONE. 10 THAT WAS THE CASE WITH SEVERAL OF THE MITIGATION 11 MEASURES OF THIS PROJECT. THAT’S SOMETHING YOU SAW EXACTLY WITH 12 SAN LUIS RANCH AND WITH AVILA RANCH WHERE THERE WERE FEE 13 PROGRAM PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE IMPACTING DAY ONE AND WERE 14 REQUIRED TO CONSTRUCT, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD A SMALL PORTION 15 OF THE IMPACT OR NOT. 16 ONE LAST ITEM I WANT TO HIT ON IS THERE WERE SOME 17 QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS ABOUT CAL TRANS COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT 18 EIR ABOUT THE MITIGATION MEASURES ADDRESSING CONGESTION AT THE 19 LOVR/US 101 INTERCHANGE. WE’VE BEEN COORDINATING WITH CAL TRANS 20 CLOSELY ON THOSE IMPROVEMENTS. AND I’VE MET WITH THEM SEVERAL 21 TIMES. AND I’VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME ADDITIONAL SUPPLEMENTAL 22 INFORMATION ADDRESSING THOSE COMMENTS IN THE FINAL EIR. SO 23 BASICALLY, WE LOOKED AT IT -- MORE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE 101 24 09393 McDaniel Court Reporters 47 (805) 544-3633 SOUTHBOUND RAMP AND MAKE SURE THAT THE MITIGATION MEASURES, 1 WHICH INCLUDE OPTIMIZING THE SIGNAL COORDINATION BETWEEN THE 2 CITY AND CAL TRANS ON INTERSECTIONS, AND CAPACITY IMPROVEMENTS 3 AT THE INTERCHANGE WERE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSING THE IMPACTS, AND 4 THE ANALYSIS CONCLUDED, YES, THOSE WERE PROVIDING SUFFICIENT 5 MITIGATION AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 6 ONE LAST QUESTION; THERE’S BEEN SOME ITEMS BROUGHT UP 7 ABOUT HOW THE CITY APPLIES QUEUING SIGNIFICANCE THRESHOLDS TO 8 QUEUING ANALYSIS. AND ESSENTIALLY, WE LOOK AT VEHICLE QUEUING AT 9 TURN POCKETS TO MAKE SURE THAT DURING THE BUSIEST HOURS OF THE 10 DAY, QUEUES AREN’T GOING TO BACK UP AND BLOCK THROUGH TRAFFIC 11 WHICH CREATES NOT ONLY CONGESTION, BUT SAFETY CONCERNS. IN DOING 12 THAT, WE LOOK AT NOT ONLY THE STRIPES TURN POCKET LANE, BUT THE 13 FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY; HOW MANY CARS CAN THE TURN POCKET 14 FUNCTIONALLY STORE TO GET A REAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER THE 15 TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BACK UP. AND WE LOOK AT THAT CONTEXTUAL 16 SIGNIFICANCE FOR EACH QUEUING IMPACT THAT WE ANALYZE IN THIS 17 STUDY. 18 WITH THAT, I’LL LET EMILY OR SHAWNA CONTINUE ON THE 19 PRESENTATION. AND I’M HERE FOR ANY OTHER TRANSPORTATION 20 QUESTIONS. 21 MS. CREEL: THANK YOU, LUKE. SO ONE LAST ITEM I WANTED TO 22 NOTE WAS WE RECEIVED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CNPS; 23 CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY FOR ADDITIONAL FINDINGS RELATED 24 09394 McDaniel Court Reporters 48 (805) 544-3633 TO BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT ABOVE THE 150 FOOT ELEVATION, AND THE 1 PROPOSED RECONFIGURATION AND AMENDMENT OF THE EXISTING AG AND 2 OPEN SPACE EASEMENT. 3 STAFF DID THINK THAT INCLUDING THOSE FINDINGS WAS 4 APPROPRIATE. AND SO WE PROVIDED SOME TEXT FOR THOSE HERE, WHICH 5 WE ARE HAPPY TO REVIEW IN MORE DETAIL IF NECESSARY. BUT THERE’S 6 THREE FINDINGS FOR DEVELOPMENT ABOVE 150 FEET -- NEXT SLIDE PLEASE, 7 SHAWNA -- AND ONE FOR THE PROPOSED RECONFIGURATION AT THE AG AND 8 OPEN SPACE EASEMENT. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 9 AND THEN WE’VE ALSO WORKED TO DRAFT SOME ADDITIONAL 10 OVERRUNNING CONSIDERATIONS, WHICH ARE CENTERED ON THREE MAIN 11 TOPICS; CULTURAL AND HISTORIC RESOURCES, SUSTAINABILITY, AND 12 ECONOMIC PUBLIC BENEFITS, WHICH STAFF IS ALSO HAPPY TO ADD TO THE 13 STATEMENT OF OVERRUNNING CONSIDERATIONS PER YOUR DIRECTION. 14 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 15 SO AGAIN, STAFF’S RECOMMENDATION IS TO CERTIFY THE FINAL 16 EIR, ADOPT CEQA FINDINGS AND THE STATEMENT OF OVERRUNNING 17 CONSIDERATIONS, APPROVE THE 2020 FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN, 18 INCLUDING THE PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT AND THE VESTING 19 TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT AN 20 APPLICATION TO LAFCO FOR ANNEXATION OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA INTO 21 THE CITY, AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING PRE-ZONING AND 22 AMENDMENT OF THE CITY’S ZONING MAP. 23 SO I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND 24 09395 McDaniel Court Reporters 49 (805) 544-3633 LETTING US GET THROUGH ALL THAT INFORMATION. AND AS MICHAEL AND 1 SHAWNA MENTIONED, WE HAVE A LARGE TEAM OF STAFF AND 2 CONSULTANTS HERE LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR QUESTIONS. AND THAT 3 CONCLUDES STAFF’S PRESENTATION. 4 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT EPIC REPORT. I 5 APPRECIATE IT. I DID HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. AND I THINK YOU’VE 6 ANSWERED ALMOST ALL OF THEM. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. AND WITH THAT, 7 I’LL SEE IF ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 8 COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE? 9 MS. PEASE: YEAH. I AGREE. MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE 10 BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE CORRESPONDENCE HAVE -- THANK YOU FOR 11 MONITORING ALL THAT CORRESPONDENCE AND ADDRESSING THEM AHEAD 12 OF TIME SO THOROUGHLY. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THERE’S ONE 13 CORRESPONDENCE A LITTLE WHILE AGO FROM THE BEAR VALLEY CENTER, 14 KIND OF ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT, CONCERNED ABOUT 15 CIRCULATION AND TURNING INTO THAT PROPERTY. I MEANT TO KIND OF DIG 16 THROUGH AND SEE WHAT THAT CONFIGURATION IS. BUT I’M WONDERING IF 17 STAFF CAN JUST LET US KNOW; IS THAT NO LONGER A LEFT TURN INTO -- 18 ALLOWED AND IT’S ONLY, YOU KNOW -- HOW DO PEOPLE GET TO THAT? IS 19 THERE STILL A CENTER TURN LANE, I GUESS? 20 MR. SCHWARTZ: SURE. THIS IS LUKE SCHWARTZ AGAIN, 21 TRANSPORTATION MANAGER. SO WHAT’S DRIVING THAT IS A MITIGATION 22 MEASURE BASED ON SAFETY. THERE’S AN ONGOING COLLISION TREND 23 ALONG LOS OSOS VALLEY ROAD ON THAT STRETCH BECAUSE THERE’S 24 09396 McDaniel Court Reporters 50 (805) 544-3633 SEVERAL DRIVEWAYS WITH LIMITED ACCESS CONTROL. AND SO THE INTENT 1 OF THAT MITIGATION MEASURE IS TO PROVIDE A RAISED MEDIAN THAT 2 RESTRICTS ACCESS TO UNLIMITED POINTS, AND THEN DESIGNING THAT, WE’D 3 CERTAINLY BE WORKING WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, SUCH AS 4 THE BEAR VALLEY CENTER, TO PROVIDE AT A MINIMUM, LEFT TURN ACCESS 5 IN WHERE FEASIBLE. 6 FOR SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS, THERE’S GOING TO BE A 7 NECESSITY TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN AT ONE 8 OF THE ADJACENT OPENINGS IN THE MEDIAN. BUT THIS IS A SAFETY BEST 9 PRACTICE, AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR CITY’S 10 SAFETY AND ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS. SO YOU KNOW, IN 11 DESIGNING THAT WITH THE APPLICANT TEAM WE’RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO 12 WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND FIND SOME SOLUTIONS THAT 13 COUNTER BALANCE THOSE ACCESS NEEDS FOR ALL OF THOSE INVOLVED. 14 MS. PEASE: OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN -- AND THANK YOU FOR 15 EXPLAINING THAT BIKE MODE SPLIT; THAT WAS A REALLY CRITICAL ITEM. 16 AND SO DO YOU HAVE A SENSE -- NOW I’M SEEING THE DIFFERENTIATION 17 BETWEEN THE CEQA KIND OF WORST CASE SCENARIO, MOST CAR INTENSIVE 18 SCENARIO. DO YOU THINK IN TERMS OF OUR OTHERWISE BIG PICTURE GOALS 19 THAT WE ARE PROMOTING THE NON-CAR OPTIONS TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE, 20 OR IS THERE MORE THAT SHOULD BE DONE PROGRAMMATICALLY, DESIGN-21 WISE TO, YOU KNOW -- GREAT TO HAVE A BUS STOP, BUT WE’RE GOING TO, 22 YOU KNOW, SEE AND WE’LL NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE BIKE LANE. BUT ARE 23 THERE OTHER STRATEGIES THAT WE SHOULD BE INCORPORATING IN ORDER 24 09397 McDaniel Court Reporters 51 (805) 544-3633 TO -- OR THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE THAT ARE -- WE’RE GOING TO BUMP 1 UP THE ACTUAL LIKELY ANTICIPATED MULTI-MODAL? 2 MR. SCHWARTZ: THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION. ONE ASPECT THAT’S NOT 3 CONSIDERED IN THOSE CONSERVATIVE KIND OF MODE SHARE ESTIMATES 4 FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS THE WHOLE SLEW OF 5 TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT. MITIGATION MEASURES ARE 6 REQUIRED AS DISCUSSED IN THE AIR QUALITY SECTION OF THE EIR. AND 7 THIS PROJECT IS DOING A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT REALLY HELP MAKE 8 PROGRESS TOWARDS THOSE GOALS, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC 9 SHUTTLES OPERATED BY THE VILLAGIO, PROVIDING SPACE FOR A HUB FOR A 10 CITY BIKE SHARE SYSTEM IF THAT GETS EMPLOYED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 11 AND THEN JUST A SNEAK PEAK TOWARDS THE ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION 12 PLAN, OUR STRATEGY WITH THE BIKE NETWORK IS FINDING THE HIGHEST 13 PRIORITY QUARTERS THAT HAVE THE MOST POTENTIAL TO GAIN BY MODE 14 SHARE AND RIDER SHARE. AND THE LOVR CORRIDOR IS ONE OF THOSE. 15 GETTING PHYSICALLY SEPARATED BIKE LANES ALONG THAT WHOLE 16 CORRIDOR IS GOING TO BE A HUGE (INAUDIBLE). AND ESPECIALLY WE’RE 17 TEAMING UP WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT’S ALREADY IN 18 CONSTRUCTION AND PROGRESS WITH SAN LUIS RANCH, INCLUDING 19 PROTECTED INTERSECTIONS AT LOVR AND FROOM, AND THE OFF STREET 20 PHYSICALLY SEPARATED PATHWAYS ALONG THE OLD FROOM RANCH WAY 21 EXTENSION. 22 THIS TEES UP WELL WITH THE OTHER KIND OF REGIONAL AND 23 CITY-WIDE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE’RE MAKING TO TRY 24 09398 McDaniel Court Reporters 52 (805) 544-3633 TO MAKE MULTI-MODAL CONNECTIONS MORE FEASIBLE. SO IT’S DOING A 1 LOT OF THOSE THINGS, THOSE AREN’T NECESSARILY REFLECTED IN THE 2 CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES THAT WE USED FOR THE OFF SITE TRAFFIC 3 ANALYSIS. 4 MS. PEASE: GREAT. THANKS. AND THEN DO YOU -- DOES STAFF 5 OVERALL HAVE A RECOMMENDATION BETWEEN THE THREE BIKE WAY 6 OPTIONS? YOU KNOW, INCLUDING THE ORIGINAL ONE OR THE OTHER TWO? I 7 SIMPLY DON’T PURPORT TO BE AN EXPERT ON THAT -- 8 MR. SCHWARTZ: SURE -- 9 MR. CODRON: LUKE, SORRY. LET ME JUMP IN REAL QUICK, I JUST 10 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT -- AND LUKE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THIS 11 AND EXPLAIN THE PREFERENCE. BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR IN TERMS OF -- THE 12 MADONNA FROOM RANCH PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS NOT AN 13 ENTITLEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT IN TERMS OF -- THAT’S A FUTURE 14 SUBDIVISION THAT WILL COME THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT PROCESS 15 WHERE WE’LL GET TO LOOK AT ALL OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FOR 16 THAT AREA. IT WOULD BE CERTAINLY GREAT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND 17 WHAT THE CROSS SECTION OF THAT STREET IS BECAUSE THAT’S HOW THE 18 PROJECT IS GOING TO BE DESIGNED. BUT I JUST WANTED THE COUNCIL TO BE 19 CLEAR THAT THE ACTUAL DESIGN ON THAT STREET ISN’T BEING DESIGNED -- 20 ISN’T BEING DECIDED TONIGHT. AND THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT PLANS 21 THAT COME IN WITH THE SUBDIVISION WILL BE THE FORMAL PROCESS FOR 22 APPROVAL OF THAT. AND LUKE CAN DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, HOW THIS 23 SPECIFIC PLAN GUIDANCE CAN LEAD TO WHAT WE WANT TO GET OUT OF 24 09399 McDaniel Court Reporters 53 (805) 544-3633 THAT. 1 MR. SCHWARTZ: YEAH. THANKS, MICHAEL. AND BOTH OPTIONS 2 ACHIEVE A SIMILAR GOAL. THE DIFFERENCE IS WHETHER YOU RETAIN A 3 LANDSCAPED PARKWAY OR NOT. I PERSONALLY FIND THAT TO BE A NICE 4 ELEMENT -- A VERY PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, WALKABLE STREET. SO IN THAT 5 CASE, I THINK THE ADVISORY BIKE LANES, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A KEY 6 PIECE OF THE TOOL BOX IN OUR ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR 7 STREETS LIKE THIS WHERE THERE REALLY ISN’T ENOUGH WIDTH TO PROVIDE 8 A REALLY WIDE STREET WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT TOOL TO LOOK AT FOR A 9 STREET LIKE THIS. THAT’S MY PERSONAL OPINION. 10 MS. PEASE: THANKS. THANKS FOR THAT. AND THEN MY FINAL 11 QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW IS -- JUST MAKING SURE, AND I’M NOT SURE, 12 MAYBE MICHAEL OR DEREK CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS. SO YOU KNOW, A BIG 13 PROJECT LIKE THIS, OBVIOUSLY WE’RE HAVING A LOT OF FOCUS ON 14 ECONOMIC RECOVERY RIGHT NOW. AND I’M WONDERING IF THERE ARE 15 THOUGHTS ON HOW A PROJECT LIKE THIS COULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION 16 USE OF LOCAL LABOR, MAYBE BEING ABLE TO INCORPORATE TRAINING, 17 APPRENTICESHIPS, KIND OF BEING A PART OF THE SOLUTION OF OUR 18 ECONOMIC RECOVERY AND RESILIENCY PLAN. YOU KNOW, KIND OF MAYBE 19 ASKING THE GENERAL QUESTION, PLANTING THE SEED FOR FUTURE 20 CONSIDERATION. 21 MR. SCHWARTZ: RIGHT. AND WE’VE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO 22 THINK ABOUT THIS. AND I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED 23 PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS AND OTHER KINDS OF COMPONENTS FOR 24 09400 McDaniel Court Reporters 54 (805) 544-3633 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE MOSTLY 1 OCCURRED AROUND -- IN THE CONTEXT OF PUBLIC PROJECTS AND PUBLIC 2 INVESTMENTS. AND IN SOME OF THE LIMITED RESEARCH WE’VE BEEN ABLE 3 TO DO, I THINK WE SAW A SUNNYVALE PROGRAM THAT WAS EVALUATED, 4 AND IN THAT CASE, THE FOCUS WAS ALSO ON PUBLIC PROJECTS. AND SO IN 5 TERMS OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE 6 WOULD WANT -- WE WOULD REALLY BE ABLE PRIMARILY TO ACCOMPLISH 7 THROUGH A NEGOTIATION OR THROUGH THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL FROM A 8 DEVELOPER TO SAY THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF THEIR 9 PROJECT. SO WE HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY, YOU KNOW, PROGRAMS 10 JUST IN THE SHORT TIME THAT WE’VE BEEN REVIEWING THAT REQUIRE, YOU 11 KNOW, LOCAL LABOR OR AGREEMENTS OF THAT SORT FOR PRIVATE 12 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. AND SUGGESTS THAT IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 13 THE COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN DISCUSSING, THAT WE GET THAT DIRECTION 14 AND BRING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION ON A GLOBAL BASIS AND EVALUATE 15 HOW WE IMPLEMENT THAT ACROSS THE CITY ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT 16 BASIS. 17 MS. PEASE: THANKS. YEAH. IT SEEMS MORE -- YES. I THINK THAT’S A 18 REASONABLE APPROACH. AND IN THINKING ABOUT KIND OF CREATIVE 19 SOLUTIONS THAT ARE WIN-WIN WITHOUT OVER BURDENING THE PROJECT 20 THAT BRINGS, YOU KNOW, IN IMPORTANT HOUSING, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 21 SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING SOME THOUGHT. I KNOW IT WAS A SUPER LAST 22 MINUTE KIND OF (INAUDIBLE). THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, 23 MAYOR. 24 09401 McDaniel Court Reporters 55 (805) 544-3633 MR. JOHNSON: AND MADAM MAYOR, I REMEMBER -- AND COUNCIL 1 MEMBER PEASE, I THINK IF, YOU KNOW -- ON THAT POINT IF COUNCIL IS 2 INCLINED TO GO THAT DIRECTION, WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF THAT’S THE 3 DIRECTION, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THAT ITEM IN THE PARKING LOT. I 4 THINK IT’S A SIGNIFICANT UNDERTAKING TO, YOU KNOW -- I IMAGINE FISCAL 5 SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY IS GOING TO BE LIKELY A CONTINUED 6 WORK EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. AND SO WE’VE GOT OTHER 7 INITIATIVES THAT WE’VE BEEN CATALOGUING. AND SO IF TONIGHT WE GET 8 DIRECTION THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE’D WANT TO PUT IN THE 9 PARKING LOT AND BRING UP IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WORK PROGRAM FOR 10 THE NEXT FINANCIAL PLAN. 11 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 12 MS. STEWART: THANK YOU, MAYOR. FIRST, YES, FOLLOWING WHAT 13 COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE SAID, THANK YOU SO MUCH TO ALL THE STAFF. 14 THIS WAS A HUGE, HUGE PROJECT AND A HUGE PRESENTATION. YOU 15 ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT I STILL HAVE SOME MORE. LUKE, 16 YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE STRIPING FOR LOS VERDES PARK AND THE 17 TRAFFIC LIGHT TIMING. SO HOW IS IT DETERMINED THAT THIS IS ADEQUATE? 18 I FEEL LIKE WE RECEIVED A LOT OF E-MAILS THAT FELT THAT IT WAS STILL 19 VERY DIFFICULT TO TURN LEFT. AND SO I’M JUST WONDERING, HOW DO WE -- 20 IF THIS ISN’T ALREADY ADEQUATE NOW, AND WE’RE LOOKING AT GROWING, 21 YOU KNOW, WITH FROOM RANCH, AVILA RANCH, HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE 22 MANAGED? 23 MR. SCHWARTZ: YEAH. THAT’S A GREAT QUESTION. SO WE’VE 24 09402 McDaniel Court Reporters 56 (805) 544-3633 MENTIONED, SOME OF THESE MEASURES WE’VE ALREADY EMPLOYED, 1 INCLUDING STRIPING, SIGNAL TIMING MEASURES, AND ALSO SOME SPEED 2 FEED BACK SIGNS ALONG THAT STRETCH OF LOVR TO TRY TO CONTROL 3 SPEEDS. THE CHALLENGE IS LOOKING AT, OKAY, IF THIS IS AN ACCESS 4 CONCERN, WHAT ARE THE WAYS TO IMPROVE IT? SHOULD YOU INSTALL A 5 TRAFFIC SIGNAL? AND WE LOOKED AT THAT, AND THE WARRANTS AREN’T 6 MET. THERE’S LEGAL THRESHOLDS THAT NEED TO BE MET FOR THE CITY TO 7 INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. 8 THE OTHER OPTION WE LOOKED AT WAS WELL, WHAT ABOUT 9 SOMETHING LIKE A PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON THAT WILL AT LEAST 10 PROVIDE A CONTROLLED CROSSING FOR PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLES. AND 11 SIMILARLY, THERE’S CERTAIN WARRANTS THAT NEED TO BE MET FOR THE 12 CITY TO LEGALLY INSTALL A DEVICE LIKE THAT. NEITHER OF THOSE WERE 13 MET BECAUSE WHILE THE DELAYS CAN BE LENGTHY EXITING THOSE 14 DRIVEWAYS, THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC ACCESSING THOSE 15 DRIVEWAYS IS RELATIVELY LOW. YOU’LL SEE SIMILAR INSTANCES ALONG, 16 LIKE, THE SOUTH BROAD CORRIDOR WHERE WE HAVE LOTS OF DRIVEWAYS 17 AFTER. IN PEAK COMMUTE TIMES YOU CAN SIT AND WAIT FOR A MINUTE 18 TRYING TO MAKE A TURN OUT, BUT THE NUMBER OF CARS DOING THAT ARE 19 RELATIVELY LOW, AND THERE AREN’T ENOUGH DEMAND TO MEET A 20 WARRANT ANALYSIS. 21 SO THIS WAS LOOKED AT IN A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE GENERAL 22 PLAN, AND AS WELL AS THE PLANNING IN THE AVILA RANCH DEVELOPMENT. 23 AND WITH THE ANALYSIS DONE IS THAT -- THE REAL (INAUDIBLE) POTENTIAL 24 09403 McDaniel Court Reporters 57 (805) 544-3633 TO IMPROVE ACTIONS FOR THE LOS VERDES PARK COMMUNITY IS GOING TO 1 BE A CONNECTION TO THE WEST WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THOSE CREEKSIDE 2 PARCELS THAT ARE JUST WEST OF BOTH LOS VERDES ONE AND LOS VERDES 3 TWO, WITH POTENTIAL FOR A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR ROUND ABOUT 4 ACCESSING THOSE LOTS, AND THEN A TIE IN POTENTIALLY TO LOS VERDES. 5 THE OTHER COMPONENT THAT WAS LOOKED AT WAS A 6 POTENTIAL FOR A BYPASS ROAD COMPLETELY DIVERTING TRAFFIC FROM 7 THE LOVR AND LOS VERDES, KIND OF, FRONTAGE. AND THAT IS SOMETHING 8 THAT ALSO THE LOOSE AND THE GENERAL PLAN SAID, HEY, THIS IS 9 SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND STUDIED IN MORE DETAIL 10 WHENEVER THESE CREEKSIDE PARCELS HAVE SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT 11 ACTIVITY. 12 THE BUCKLEY EXTENSION, WHICH AS I MENTIONED, IS IN 13 PROGRESS AND THAT AVILA RANCH HOPES TO START CONSTRUCTION ON IN 14 THE NEAR FUTURE, RECONFIGURES SOME OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS AT THE 15 SOUTH HIGUERA AND LOVR INTERSECTION, SHIFTING MORE TRAFFIC FROM 16 THE, KIND OF, SOUTHBOUND RIGHT TURN WHERE YOU GET A LOT OF FREE 17 FLOWING TRAFFIC WITH NOT A LOT OF GAPS, TO MORE LEFT TURNS FROM 18 NORTHBOUND. AND YOU KNOW, THAT SHIFT WILL PROVIDE MORE GAPS. 19 WE’RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND SIGNAL TIMINGS 20 AND SEE WHAT ADJUSTMENTS WE CAN MAKE TO IMPROVE THOSE GAPS AND 21 GIVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ACCESS TO MAKE LEFT TURNS. BUT 22 IT’S JUST REALLY A CHALLENGING SITE. YOU KNOW, THIS SUBDIVISION WAS 23 BUILT IN THE ‘70’S. AND THE KIND OF LONG TERM CONNECTIVITY WAS JUST 24 09404 McDaniel Court Reporters 58 (805) 544-3633 NOT -- WASN’T AN IDEAL SITUATION. SO WE’VE LOOKED AT THE 1 OPPORTUNITIES TO TRY TO CONTROL THIS, AND THERE JUST ISN’T A REAL 2 LOGICAL SOLUTION THAT’S FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME. 3 MR. CODRON: AND I CAN JUST HIGHLIGHT A BIT OF INFORMATION 4 THAT WAS ON ONE OF LUKE’S SLIDES IN TERMS OF BUCKLEY ROAD, WHICH IS 5 REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF HOW THE CIRCULATION NETWORK WIL L 6 FUNCTION IN THIS PART OF TOWN. IT’S A PLAN PROJECT AS PART OF AVILA 7 RANCH. WE’VE ALREADY APPROVED THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS FOR THE 8 ROADWAY. AND AT ONE POINT, THE DEVELOPER WAS LOOKING TO 9 ACCELERATE DEVELOPMENT OF BUCKLEY ROAD. IT IS STILL ON TRACK TO 10 BE DELIVERED IN ABOUT 18 MONTHS TIME. AND SO IT IS IN THE FUTURE. IT 11 COULD PRECEDE EVEN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT IN 12 TERMS OF WHEN THAT GETS OPERATIONAL, BUT IT’S REQUIRED TO BE IN 13 PLACE BEFORE THE SECOND PHASE, BEFORE THE MADONNA FROOM RANCH 14 PORTION IS BUILT. 15 MS. STEWART: THANK YOU, MICHAEL. AND THEN WITH THE LETTER 16 THAN CAME FROM, I THINK, M. R. WOLF AND PRESERVE SLO, MICHAEL, DO 17 YOU FEEL THAT THE EXTRA INFORMATION THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR 18 AS FAR AS THE EIR BEING INCOMPLETE, THAT WE’VE MET THAT NOW? 19 MR. CODRON: I DO. AND I THINK THAT THE PRESENTATION, WE 20 REALLY REVIEWED THAT LETTER VERY CLOSELY AND TRIED TO TEASE OUT 21 THE SPECIFIC ISSUES RAISED AS IT RELATES TO TIMING AND MITIGATION 22 AND HOW THOSE PROJECTS ARE DELIVERED, OR WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS 23 ARE FOR THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT; EITHER TO, YOU KNOW, FUND THOSE 24 09405 McDaniel Court Reporters 59 (805) 544-3633 PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED BY OTHERS; OR BUILD THEM 1 DIRECTLY IF -- WHEN IT COMES TIME TO OCCUPY THE PROJECT WITH -- 2 PROJECT SPECIFIC (INAUDIBLE) NOT (INAUDIBLE) IT’S UP TO THEM TO 3 ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THAT PROJECT. SO (INAUDIBLE) WE HAVE SOME 4 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN TERMS OF THE RESPONSE, AND I’LL ASK HER 5 TO WEIGH IN THERE. 6 MS. SCOTT: SURE. I JUST WANTED TO ADD -- AND WE CAN HAVE LUKE 7 GET INTO THE HEAVY TECHNICAL INFORMATION, BUT WHEN OUR 8 TRANSPORTATION DIVISION HAD THE CONSULTANT DO ADDITIONAL STUDY, 9 YOU KNOW, BASED ON THEIR CONSULTATION WITH CAL TRANS AND IN 10 RESPONSE TO THE CAL TRANS LETTER, WE WERE CAREFUL TO MAKE SURE, 11 YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THAT INFORMATION, DID IT SHOW A NEW IMPACT, 12 DID IT SHOW AN IMPACT THAT WAS WORSE THAN WHAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN 13 THE DRAFT EIR? AND IT DID NOT. IT CONFIRMED THE FINDINGS THAT WERE 14 PRESENTED IN THE DRAFT EIR. SO WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THAT 15 INFORMATION IS HIGHLY TECHNICAL, IT DID ULTIMATELY CONCLUDE -- 16 REACHED THE SAME CONCLUSIONS AS THE DRAFT EIR. AND YOU SEE SOME 17 OF THAT MITIGATION WAS MODIFIED RELATED TO THE SOUTHBOUND RAMPS, 18 SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO OUR TRANSPORTATION DIVISION’S MEETINGS 19 AND CONSULTATION WITH CAL TRANS ABOUT THE BEST APPROACH FOR 20 MODIFYING THAT RAMP. 21 MS. STEWART: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 22 MR. JOHNSON: MICHAEL, COULD YOU -- COULD WE PERHAPS -- IF YOU, 23 OR SHAWNA, OR PERHAPS MS. LEACHMAN CAN JUST PROVIDE SOME 24 09406 McDaniel Court Reporters 60 (805) 544-3633 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE LETTER THAT WAS JUST 1 REFERENCED BY COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART RELATIVE TO THE CHANGES 2 TO THE -- ONE OF THE TECHNICAL APPENDICES AND THE ARGUMENT THAT 3 THE CHANGES REQUIRE RECIRCULATION AND -- SO WE CAN GET THAT ON 4 THE RECORD, OUR RESPONSE. 5 MR. CODRON: YEAH. I THINK THAT’S THE ISSUE THAT SHAWNA JUST 6 SPOKE TO IN TERMS OF -- THOSE CHANGES RESULTED FROM SOME 7 COLLABORATION WITH CAL TRANS. AND IN THE FEEDBACK AND WORK 8 ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT THEY REQUESTED, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL 9 ANALYSIS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO, WE -- THERE WERE SOME CHANGES 10 TO THE EIR, BUT THEN BECAUSE THEY DID NOT RESULT IN ANY ADDITIONAL 11 IMPACTS THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD NOT BEEN DISCLOSED, THAT DOES NOT 12 REQUIRE RECIRCULATION OF THE EIR. 13 MR. JOHNSON: RIGHT. THANKS FOR JUST PUTTING A PIN IN THAT. 14 THANK YOU. 15 MR. CODRON: SURE. 16 MS. STEWART: THANK YOU. AND THEN WITH THE WILD FIRE -- SO 17 EMILY, THAT HELPED SO MUCH, KIND OF SHOWING WHERE THE RED PARTS 18 WERE AND AS FAR AS, LIKE, WHERE THE RESIDENTS WERE ACTUALLY GOING 19 TO BE. SO THAT, I THINK, CLARIFIED A LOT. I GUESS, DO WE FEEL -- BECAUSE 20 I’M THINKING OF SANTA ROSA AND THE FIRES WHEN IT KIND OF WENT FIRE 21 TORNADO LEVEL, AND EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS A FREEWAY, WHICH 22 NORMALLY IS A FIRE BREAK, THE JUMP THAT WENT RIGHT INTO THE NEXT 23 NEIGHBORHOOD IS WHAT I’M THINKING OF. SO WHEN I’M THINKING ABOUT 24 09407 McDaniel Court Reporters 61 (805) 544-3633 FROOM RANCH AND LOS VERDES, I MEAN ARE WE SEEING ANY SORT OF 1 CONCERN ABOUT KIND OF CREATING EXTRA ABILITY TO HAVE A WILD FIRE 2 DISASTER? DOES THAT EXPLAIN IT? 3 CHIEF KEITH AGGSON: COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, AND I BELIEVE 4 EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME. IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOP- -- THE PLANNED 5 DEVELOPMENT THERE IN THE HIGH FIRE SEVERITY ZONE, THE HIGH FIRE, THE 6 VERY HIGH, AND THE HIGH, AND THE MODERATE, NONE OF THIS 7 DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO BE IN THE HIGH FIRE SEVERE, HIGH -- VERY HIGH 8 SEVERE FIRE ZONE. BUT WITH THAT, THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE 9 DEVELOPMENT I ALSO IS THAT THEY HAVE A COMMUNITY WILD FIRE 10 PROTECTION PLAN AND AN ONGOING MAINTENANCE SUB-PLAN FOR THE 11 REMOVAL OF FUEL AND THE MAINTENANCE OF FUEL. AND THEN IN 12 ADDITION TO THAT, IT’S JUST THE CONSTRUCTION TYPE. 13 SO WHEN YOU’RE IN THAT AREA, THEY’RE GOING TO BE 14 REQUIRED TO BUILD TO A (INAUDIBLE) STANDARD, WHICH WOULD MEAN 15 THEY WOULD HAVE A FIRE RESISTANT MATERIAL FOR THE ROOF, FOR THE 16 SIDING. ALL THEY WOULD HAVE BOXED EAVES, ALL OF THEIR VENTS WOULD 17 BE SCREENS, AS WELL AS TRIPLE-PANED WINDOWS. 18 SO IN TERMS OF THE THREAT, CERTAINLY IT DOES EXIST AS 19 ERIKA HAS STATED EARLIER. YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION AND TOPOGRAPHY, 20 YOU KNOW, WE CAN’T REALLY NECESSARILY CHANGE THAT OUT, BUT WE 21 CAN CHANGE AND MITIGATE THE RISKS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE 22 DEVELOPMENT. AND A LOT OF THAT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE 23 CONSTRUCTION TYPE. 24 09408 McDaniel Court Reporters 62 (805) 544-3633 IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, 1 WITH THE CONVALESCENT TYPE CARE AND THE ASSISTED LIVING, THERE IS A 2 STATE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES HAVE AN EMERGENCY 3 PLAN IN PLACE. SO NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, EVACUATION PLAN, A FIRE PLAN, 4 BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL OF THE 5 OCCUPANTS THERE, AS WELL AS COMMUNICATION WITH THEIR FAMILY 6 MEMBERS. SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE THREAT ITSELF AND THE FUELS, 7 YOU KNOW, THEY’RE SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW -- BEEN MITIGATED. THE AREA 8 THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON IS IN THE LOWER AREAS IN THE 9 FLATS, IT’S LIGHT FLASHING FUELS. AND CERTAINLY A CONCERN OF, YOU 10 KNOW, EMBER CAST AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WE TALKED ABOUT 11 EARLIER AT THE COUNCIL MEETING, IS A CONCERN. HOWEVER WITH THESE 12 NEWER DEVELOPMENTS, IN TERMS OF THE NON-FLAMMABLE FUELS AND THE 13 TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION REALLY GIVE THOSE BUILDINGS THE ABILITY TO BE 14 HARD AND BE ABLE TO STAND ON THEIR OWN. AND, YOU KNOW, AS YOU 15 POINTED OUT THE TUBBS FIRE IN SANTA ROSA, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE 16 UNIQUE THINGS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IS THOSE HOMES THAT WERE 17 NEAR THE (INAUDIBLE) AREA, ACTUALLY MANY OF THOSE SURVIVED. IT 18 WAS THE HOMES THAT WERE IN THE INTERIOR THAT WERE NOT BUILT TO 19 THOSE STANDARDS THAT -- ONCE ONE OF THEM GOT GOING, YOU HAD THAT 20 (INAUDIBLE) IT WAS HOUSE, TO HOUSE, TO HOUSE. SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT -- 21 THIS CERTAINLY IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT WITH THE BUILDING. 22 MS. STEWART: OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST DIDN’T 23 WANT TO CREATE A SITUATION LIKE THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, KIND OF IN 24 09409 McDaniel Court Reporters 63 (805) 544-3633 THE MULTI-MODAL PART AND THE ECONOMY, THERE WERE SOME 1 COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING KIND OF A REQUIREMENT FOR -- OR NOT A 2 REQUIREMENT, A PREFERENCE FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKING IN VILLAGIO 3 TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PREFERENCE FOR LIVING NEAR THERE; IS THERE ANY 4 INTEREST IN THAT, OR IS THAT TOO OVERREACHING? 5 MR. CODRON: THAT -- I THINK THAT’S A QUESTION -- THANK YOU, 6 COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART. I THINK THAT’S MAYBE A GOOD QUESTION FOR 7 THE APPLICANT, OR SHAWNA, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSALS 8 ON THE TABLE AT THE MOMENT? OR -- 9 MS. SCOTT: NO. THERE ARE NOT ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSALS ON THE 10 TABLE AT THIS MOMENT, BUT I DO THINK THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE 11 APPLICANT TO CONSIDER. 12 MS. STEWART: GREAT. THANK YOU. AND ONE LAST QUESTION, AND I 13 PROMISE I’LL GIVE OTHER PEOPLE A CHANCE, AS FAR AS -- THERE HAVE BEEN 14 A LOT OF COMMENTS IN THE E-MAILS ABOUT US DOING THIS PROJECT AND 15 THE GROWTH OF SLO WITH ALL OF THE PROJECTS WE HAVE PLANNED; SAN 16 LUIS RANCH, AVILA RANCH, FROOM; WE STILL WOULD BE IN OUR STAYING 17 GROWTH PLAN, CORRECT? 18 MR. CODRON: YES, THAT’S CORRECT. AND YEAH, THERE HAVE BEEN A 19 LOT OF COMMENTS ABOUT GROWTH. AND CERTAINLY, THERE IS GROWTH 20 HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN SAN LUIS OBISPO FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SOME 21 TIME, MAYBE SINCE THE MID-‘80’S, THAT WE’VE SEEN THAT LEVEL OF 22 GROWTH. BUT IT’S STILL WITHIN PROJECTIONS, IT’S STILL WITHIN PLANS. 23 I JUST HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, LIKE OUR 1977 24 09410 McDaniel Court Reporters 64 (805) 544-3633 GENERAL PLAN MAP. AND OUR URBAN RESERVE LINE IS ESSENTIALLY 1 UNCHANGED SINCE 1977. SO IN TERMS OF HOW THE CITY IS GROWING, WE 2 ARE FOLLOWING OUR GENERAL PLAN POLICY. WE’RE MAINTAINING A 3 COMPACT URBAN FORM, AND WE’RE GRADUALLY GROWING TO OUR LIMITS. 4 BUT OUR LIMITS ARE DEFINED, AND THEY’VE BEEN DEFINED FOR A LONG 5 TIME. AND WHILE THE DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING, WE ARE ACTIVELY 6 PURSUING THE ACQUISITION OF OPEN SPACE, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, 7 AGRICULTURAL EASEMENTS, AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE GREEN 8 BELT IS PROTECTED AND THAT WE DON’T SPRAWL AND DON’T ULTIMATELY, 9 YOU KNOW, CONNECT TO ANY OF THESE OTHER JURISDICTIONS ON THE 10 COAST. 11 SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT PLAN FROM 12 THE 2015 LAND USE ELEMENT, OUR GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. IT’S THE THIRD 13 OF THREE. YOU KNOW, ALL THREE OF THESE ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND I 14 THINK MAYBE THE PERCEPTION THAT THERE’S SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT 15 GOING ON IS PARTLY BECAUSE WE’RE ALSO BUILDING IN THE MARGARITA 16 AREA AND IN THE ORCUTT AREA. THOSE ARE TWO OF OUR BIG EXPANSION 17 AREAS FROM THE LAST GENERAL PLAN, FROM THE ONE BEFORE THAT. SO WE 18 WENT THROUGH THIS HUGE PERIOD, 1990-2010, WHERE REALLY THE ONLY 19 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO SPEAK OF DURING THAT TIME WAS THE 20 RANCHO OBISPO AND DE TELOSA RANCH PROJECTS DOWN THE STREET FROM 21 HERE ON LOS OSOS VALLEY ROAD. BUT OTHERWISE, WE HAVEN’T REALLY 22 SEEN MAJOR, YOU KNOW -- NEW SUBDIVISIONS THAT BUILD OUT IN PHASES 23 IN THAT WAY. 24 09411 McDaniel Court Reporters 65 (805) 544-3633 AND SO I KNOW IT’S DIFFERENT, BUT IT’S PLANNED. AND WE 1 HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR IT. I THINK THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN, YOU KNOW, 2 PROCESS REALLY GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WATER SUPPLY, 3 LOOK AT EMERGENCY RESPONSE, LOOK AT ALL OF THESE ISSUES AND MAKE 4 SURE THEY’RE FULLY COORDINATED. AND THAT’S WHAT WE’VE DONE WITH 5 OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU. SO THIS IS WITHIN OUR POPULATION 6 GROWTH LIMITS. AND IT’S PER THE GENERAL PLAN. 7 MS. STEWART: THANK YOU. 8 MR. JOHNSON: MADAM MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST HOP IN FOR A 9 MINUTE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, AMPLIFY, I THINK, SOME OF MICHAEL’S 10 COMMENTS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, MANY OF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN JULY OF 11 2017, I THINK THAT’S WHEN THE SAN LUIS RANCH PROJECT WAS APPROVED. 12 AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY WE HAD THE AVILA RANCH PROJECT APPROVED. 13 AND YOU KNOW, SAN LUIS RANCH, WE, YOU KNOW -- MICHAEL, I THINK, 14 RELAYED TO THE COUNCIL THAT JUST RECENTLY THEY RECORDED THEIR 15 FINAL MAP, WHICH THEN ALLOWS US TO THEN START MOVING FORWARD 16 WITH BUILDING PERMITS. 17 AND SO SINCE THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LITERALLY 18 DOZENS, YOU KNOW, IF NOT HUNDREDS OF REQUIREMENTS IN THE EIR, IN 19 THE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP, IN THE CASE OF AVILA AND SAN LUIS RANCH 20 THERE ARE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT REQUIREMENTS, THOSE TAKE YEARS 21 TO SATISFY AND THEN ORDER THEN TO GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY’RE 22 SATISFIED AND/OR BONDED TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN ADMINISTRATIVELY 23 JUST APPROVE THE FINAL MAP. 24 09412 McDaniel Court Reporters 66 (805) 544-3633 SO THAT’S ALL TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SHOULD 1 THE COUNCIL MOVE FORWARD TONIGHT, THERE IS STILL A LOT OF WORK 2 AHEAD IN TERMS OF THE FROOM RANCH PROJECT, INCLUDING ANY 3 ANNEXATION WITHIN THE CITY, AND INCLUDING A TAX EXCHANGE 4 AGREEMENT, ALL FUTURE FLASHPOINTS THAT WILL REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, 5 INDEPENDENT COUNCIL ACTION ALONG THE WAY, AND LIKELY SOME 6 STAGGERING BETWEEN SAN LUIS RANCH, AVILA RANCH, AND WHEN FROOM 7 RANCH MOVES FORWARD IN IT’S VARIOUS DIFFERENT PHASES. 8 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ? 9 MR. GOMEZ: YEAH. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON THE 10 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE. HOW DOES THAT GET 11 FACTORED IN WHEN WE’RE LOOKING AT KIND OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL 12 IMPACTS OF A PROJECT LIKE THIS, GHG PRODUCTION, AND BEING UNABLE TO 13 MEET THAN, AND THEN HAVING THAT MUCH RETAIL, AND KIND OF ALSO 14 TYING THAT IN WITH THE REALITIES OF KIND OF THE ECONOMIC 15 CONTRAPTION? THERE ARE MUCH CONVERSATION GOING AROUND THE FACT 16 THAT ADDING THAT MUCH COMMERCIAL SPACE AT A TIME THAT WE’RE 17 SEEING TENANTS LEAVE COMMERCIAL SPACE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE’S TWO 18 DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE FOR THE APPLICANT BASED ON 19 KIND OF THE FUTURE OF THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS. AND THE OTHER IS KIND 20 OF HOW IT RELATES TO EIR FOR THIS SPECIFIC. 21 MR. CODRON: WELL, LET ME -- LET’S START OUT -- THANK YOU, 22 COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, I WANT TO JUST START OUT TO CLARIFY THE 23 PLAN FOR THE COMMERCIAL PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH INCLUDES A -- 24 09413 McDaniel Court Reporters 67 (805) 544-3633 SOME COMMERCIALLY ZONED LAND, BUT IT’S NOT INTENDED TO BE ALL 1 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL. SO OF THE 100,000 SQUARE FEET, INCLUDED 2 IN THAT IS A HOTEL. SO THERE’S A HOTEL DEVELOPMENT, AND THERE IS 3 ABOUT 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING TYPE COMMERCIAL 4 THAT WOULD MORE IMMEDIATELY SERVE PROJECT RESIDENTS. 5 THERE ARE -- THERE IS ENOUGH COMMERCIAL THERE WHERE 6 THERE WILL BE TRIPS FROM ADJACENT AREAS, BUT THE AMOUNT OF 7 COMMERCIAL PROPOSES AT THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE RANGE DESCRIBED IN 8 THE GENERAL PLAN FOR THIS SPECIAL FOCUS AREA, AND THE TYPES OF USES 9 BEING PROPOSED ARE -- GENERATE LESS TRAFFIC THAN WHAT YOU SEE NEXT 10 DOOR, FOR EXAMPLE, IN, LIKE, A TARGET TYPE PROJECT OR SOMETHING 11 THAT’S A REAL, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL WAREHOUSE TYPE DESTINATION USE. 12 IN TERMS OF THE ENERGY USE, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE -- THIS IS 13 A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE CITY’S REACH CODE, BUT YOU 14 KNOW -- AND FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO 15 INSTALL ALL OF THE SOLAR PANELS REQUIRED IN THE SOLAR ZONE 16 REQUIRED UNDER STATE LAW. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, BEYOND THAT, THERE 17 -- AS WE TOUCHED ON IN THE PRESENTATION, THERE ARE NUMEROUS 18 MEASURES UNDER BOTH AIR QUALITY, UNDER THE MITIGATIONS FOR AIR 19 QUALITY IMPACTS AS WELL AS THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS 20 COMPONENT. 21 SO THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ISSUE AREA IN THE EIR. THEY 22 BOTH HAVE THEIR OWN SUITE OF MITIGATION MEASURES, AND THEY ALL GO 23 TOWARDS IMPROVING EFFICIENCY IN REDUCING EMISSIONS FROM THE 24 09414 McDaniel Court Reporters 68 (805) 544-3633 OPERATIONAL PHASE OF THE PROJECT. AND IF WE WANT TO DRILL DOWN AT 1 ALL, OR IF YOU HAVE MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE CAN -- WE 2 ABSOLUTELY HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO TOUCH ON. 3 AND I DO THINK THAT THE APPLICANT WILL PROBABLY SHARE SOME 4 THOUGHTS WITH YOU AS WELL IN TERMS OF HOW THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE 5 WILL BE DEVELOPED. AGAIN, PART OF A FUTURE PROJECT PROPOSAL WHERE 6 WE WILL SEE THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT APPLICATION WITH AN 7 ARCHITECTURE REVIEW, A PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW, A TENTATIVE 8 TRACT MAP THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW, SO 9 OPPORTUNITIES IN THE FUTURE TO IMPLEMENT OUR POLICIES AND TO 10 IMPLEMENT ANY NEW POLICIES THAT MAY BE IN EFFECT AT THE TIME AS 11 WELL. 12 MR. GOMEZ: OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, IT HITS UPON MY OVERARCHING 13 DESIRE TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT WE’RE CREATING JOBS THAT DON’T 14 CURRENTLY EXIST, WHICH DOES HAVE AN IMPACT FROM A GHG PRODUCTION 15 JUST FROM PEOPLE COMMUTING TO JOBS. SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN 16 TACKLE THAT AT SOME OTHER POINT I SUPPOSE. THE OTHER QUESTION 17 THAT I’VE GOT IS WHAT I BROUGHT UP EARLIER AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE 18 CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY AS AN EXAMPLE OF A MITIGATED MEASURE. I’M 19 TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT’S A MITIGATING MEASURE WHEN IT’S THE 20 STATUS QUO FOR ANYTHING TODAY IN THE CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO IN THE 21 SENSE THAT WE’RE ALL USING CARBON FREE ELECTRICITY AT THIS POINT. 22 MR. CODRON: RIGHT. AND I THINK I’D LIKE MAYBE ERIKA OR EMILY 23 TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER MEASURES IN THAT 24 09415 McDaniel Court Reporters 69 (805) 544-3633 SECTION. THAT WAS A PRETTY PROGRESSIVE MEASURE BEFORE WE HAD 1 MONTEREY BAY COMMUNITY POWER, RIGHT? SO THAT HAPPENED DURING 2 THE COURSE OF DEVELOPING THE PROJECT AND WRITING THE EIR. WE 3 WEREN’T SURE THAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN QUITE IN THAT WAY. AT THE 4 SAME TIME, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER MEASURES WITHIN THOSE 5 REQUIREMENTS, AND WE’D BE HAPPY TO COVER A FEW OF THOSE. SHAWNA? 6 MS. SCOTT: YEAH. SURE. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY, 7 YOU KNOW -- WELL, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THAT WE HAD A REAL BENEFIT 8 OF BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH CHRIS REED WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON 9 THE DRAFT EIR AND IDENTIFYING WHAT MITIGATION MEASURES COULD BE 10 APPLIED TO THIS PROJECT. YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST A LOT OF TIMES, YOU 11 KNOW, WHEN YOU’RE DOING ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS YOU RELY ON THE 12 SAN LUIS OBISPO AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT’S, YOU KNOW, LIST OF 13 MITIGATION MEASURES. AND IN THIS CASE, WE’RE ABLE TO TAKE A FAR 14 MORE PROGRESSIVE LOOK AND REALLY DOVETAIL THIS PROJECT WITH 15 WHAT WAS BEING REQUIRED IN THE REACH CODE, WHAT IS BEING REQUIRED 16 IN OUR RECENTLY ADOPTED CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WHICH WAS JUST 17 ADOPTED THIS SUMMER, I BELIEVE, AFTER WE HAD ALREADY PUBLISHED 18 THIS FINAL EIR. AND SO WHAT WE DID REQUIRE AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY 19 INCLUDED IS RIGHT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS; ALL 20 ELECTRIC BUILDINGS, REQUIRING PURCHASE FROM THE COMMUNITY POWER, 21 YOU KNOW, ALSO PROVIDING THE (INAUDIBLE) AND MEETING ALL THOSE 22 REQUIREMENTS. AND YOU KNOW, ALSO IDENTIFYING, YOU KNOW, SOME 23 ADDITIONAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY MEASURES. 24 09416 McDaniel Court Reporters 70 (805) 544-3633 SO IF YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE MITIGATION MONITORING PLAN 1 OR LOOKING AT THOSE FINDINGS, THAT’S MITIGATION MEASURE AQ5. AND 2 THEN RELATED TO THE MOBILE SOURCE EMISSIONS, WHICH ARE A LITTLE BIT 3 TOUGHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MITIGATE AND HOW TO QUANTIFY THE 4 MITIGATED GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS AS LUKE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, 5 PROVIDING A SPOT FOR, YOU KNOW -- FOR A BIKE SHARE, AND, YOU KNOW, 6 FOR INCREASING OPPORTUNITIES TO TRANSIT. YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT AS 7 PROPOSED INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL TRANSIT STOP. SO ALL OF THOSE 8 TRADITIONAL MEASURES WERE INCLUDED. AND THE EIR ULTIMATELY 9 CONCLUDED THESE IMPACTS ARE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF (INAUDIBLE) 10 FOR JUST THE REASON THAT FOR -- ESPECIALLY FOR THE MOBILE SOURCE 11 EMISSIONS, THOSE ARE LARGELY DEPENDENT ON HUMAN BEHAVIOR TO 12 ACTUALLY QUANTIFY THAT REDUCTION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, AND 13 CONSERVATIVELY IDENTIFY THAT SIGNIFICANT AND UNAVOIDABLE IMPACT. 14 AND YOU KNOW, I DID ASK CHRIS REED TO BE HERE TONIGHT; HE WORKED 15 WITH US EXTENSIVELY ON DEVELOPING THESE MITIGATION MEASURES TO 16 MAKE SURE THIS PROJECT, EVEN THOUGH IT, YOU KNOW, WAS KIND OF 17 GOING THROUGH AT THE SAME TIME AS THOSE, YOU KNOW -- THE REACH 18 CODE AND THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN -- THAT IT WOULD BE IN ALIGNMENT 19 WITH THOSE GOALS AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS. 20 MR. JOHNSON: AND MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, 21 CHRIS REED IS AVAILABLE. HE’S READY TO POP ON AND PROVIDE SOME 22 ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. SO THANK YOU, SHAWNA. 23 MR. CHRIS REED: THANKS DEREK, AND GOOD EVENING MAYOR 24 09417 McDaniel Court Reporters 71 (805) 544-3633 HARMON, COUNCIL. COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 1 QUESTION. YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST -- IN THE FINAL EIR THERE ARE SORT 2 OF THREE PLACES WHERE THE MITIGATION MEASURES AND RESPONSES 3 COME INTO SHAWNA’S POINTS. AQ -- MITIGATION MEASURE AQ5 IS WHERE 4 WE HAVE THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT IS FOCUSED ON THE ALL ELECTRIC 5 REQUIREMENTS. AND AS YOU RECALL FROM THE ENERGY CHOICE PROGRAM, 6 NEW BUILDINGS CAN EITHER BE ALL ELECTRIC, OR BUILT TO A HIGHER 7 STANDARD. 8 IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT IS COMMITTED TO IN THE FINAL 9 EIR, TO BEING ALL ELECTRIC AND TO BUILDING TO, I BELIEVE, IT’S CALLED 10 GREEN TIER ONE ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS. SO THERE’S SOME 11 REALLY GOOD COMMITMENTS THERE AS FAR AS ENERGY USE GOES. AND WE 12 KNOW THAT THAT’S JUST GOING TO BECOME MORE IMPORTANT AS THE GRID 13 CLEANS UP OVER TIME. 14 BACK UP POINT TO THE FIRST BULLET WHERE IT’S IDENTIFIED 15 THAT ELECTRICITY SHALL BE THE ONLY ENERGY SOURCE FOR THE ENTIRE 16 PROJECT, EXCLUDING SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE SORT OF CONSISTENT 17 WITH THE EXEMPTIONS WE SAW IN THE ENERGY CHOICE PROGRAM. SO 18 THAT’S IN AMENDMENT AQ5. 19 ADDITIONALLY, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL 20 SOLAR WAS ALSO ADDED FURTHER DOWN BELOW. SO WE’LL SEE 21 ADDITIONAL SOLAR PANELS ON THERE. AND THEN THE FINAL BULLET 22 THERE, AGAIN, IS A COMMITMENT TO CAL GREEN TIER ONE AND/OR TIER 23 TWO. SO LIKELY, TIER ONE, A MINIMUM EFFICIENCY STANDARDS. AND 24 09418 McDaniel Court Reporters 72 (805) 544-3633 THAT’S, YOU KNOW, IF WE’RE LOOKING AT THE 2019 CODE, THOSE ARE 1 EXTREMELY ASTRINGENT STANDARDS AND ARE HIGHLY EFFICIENT 2 BUILDINGS. AND WHEN WE THINK ABOUT WHAT PROJECT BUILD OUT LOOKS 3 LIKE, AND WE START TO IMAGINE THESE, YOU KNOW, EITHER COMPLYING 4 WITH THIS AT A MINIMUM, OR BEING BUILT TO 2022 OR 23-5 STANDARDS, WE 5 EXPECT THE BUILDINGS TO BE OPERATIONALLY CARBON NEUTRAL, YOU 6 KNOW, RELATIVELY SOON. 7 THE OTHER ITEM I WOULD JUST POINT TO IS -- IF I WERE 8 SCROLLING DOWN TO IT -- WOULD BE THE AIR QUALITY MITIGATION 9 MEASURE SIX. AND THAT’S WHERE WE TALK A BIT ABOUT THOSE MOBILE 10 SOURCE EMISSIONS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANTED TO 11 FOCUS ON, AND THIS IS TRUE BOTH IN ITEM SIX, BUT ALSO IN THE TABLE OF 12 3.39, WHICH IS THE APCD GHG BEST PRACTICES TABLE, IS REALLY FOCUSING 13 WHERE THERE’S A REQUIREMENT OR A REQUEST FOR AN OPERATIONAL 14 PROGRAM TO ALSO REALLY FOCUS ON ENSURING THE INFRASTRUCTURE 15 SPACE IS IN PLACE. WE KNOW HOW HARD IT IS THAT WE REQUEST A -- 16 REQUIRE A PROGRAM TO BE IN PLACE THROUGH AN EIR. THERE’S A LOT OF 17 RESOURCES REQUIRED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT OVER TIME. AND SO IN THIS 18 CASE, THERE’S A NUMBER OF PLACES WHERE WE HAVE INCLUDED THE 19 REQUIREMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE 20 INSTALLED TO SUPPORT ELECTRIC FLEETS AND COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS 21 TO SUPPORT THE SHUTTLE FLEET AT THE LIVING FACILITY. 22 AND THOSE ARE VERY EXPLICITLY AND SPECIFICALLY 23 IDENTIFIED AS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHATEVER RESIDENT -- OR WHATEVER 24 09419 McDaniel Court Reporters 73 (805) 544-3633 ELECTRIC (INAUDIBLE) ARE JUST REQUIRED THROUGH STATE LAW OR OUR 1 LOCAL CODE. IN ADDITION, WE’VE HAD COMMITMENT TO ESSENTIALLY 2 HAVE ADDITIONAL ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGERS THERE INSTALLED ABOVE 3 AND BEYOND WHAT’S REQUIRED IN THE STATE CODE. AND SO IT’S SORT OF 4 WHATEVER IS IN PLACE WITH OUR LOCAL ZONING CODE, WHICH RIGHT NOW 5 IS ABOVE THE STATE CODE, OR THE STATE CODE WOULD HAVE BEEN -- 6 THAT’S HIGHER AT THE TIME. SO THAT’S JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES. 7 THERE’S OTHER PLACES WE CAN DIG IN A LITTLE DEEPER IF YOU HAVE 8 FURTHER QUESTIONS. SO I’LL LEAVE IT THERE AND I’M HAPPY TO ANSWER 9 ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 10 MR. GOMEZ: YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT’S RIGHT THERE. ALL OF 11 THAT WAS NOT MY CONCERN. IT WAS JUST THE FACT THAT THE EXAMPLE 12 THAT WAS CITED WAS A MITIGATION MEASURE THAT, I THINK, DIDN’T 13 REALLY TOUCH ON ALL OF THOSE THAT WERE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAT 14 MITIGATION MEASURES THAT IT’S CARBON NEUTRAL ELECTRICITY WHEN 15 WE’RE ALREADY ALL ON CARBON NEUTRAL ELECTRICITY. I THINK IT’S MORE 16 PERHAPS A -- AND INSIGHT INTO -- YOU SHOULD HAVE CITED BETTER 17 EXAMPLES GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF GREAT THINGS THAT WERE 18 ACCOMPLISHED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE’RE ALREADY DOING. 19 CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK; I’LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. 20 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON? 21 MS. CHRISTIANSON: HARD AUDIENCE. YEAH. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE 22 TINY LITTLE THINGS BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE ASKING A LOT OF MY -- A 23 COUPLE OF MY QUESTIONS. AND I WENT TO AGENDA REVIEW. SO THANK 24 09420 McDaniel Court Reporters 74 (805) 544-3633 YOU STAFF FOR PRESENTING, AND ALL THE STUFF I WANTED YOU TO TALK 1 ABOUT. THAT’S GREAT. LUKE, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE BIKE 2 OPTIONS, YOU CAN TELL -- WHERE IS DAN (INAUDIBLE) WHEN WE NEED HIM? 3 NONE OF US ARE BIKE PEOPLE ENOUGH TO KNOW -- JUST KNOW THE ANSWER 4 TO THIS QUESTION. SO MY QUESTION, I DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT -- 5 TECHNICALLY WHAT -- AND I’VE SAID THIS PROBABLY TEN TIMES. SO ONE OF 6 THESE DAYS YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO GIVE ME A CHEAT SHEET. I DON’T 7 KNOW WHAT A CLASS TWO BIKE LANE IS. OKAY? SO BUT WHAT I SEE HERE 8 IS A BIKE LANE THAT’S RIGHT NEXT TO THE STREET. SO THE ONE THAT’S 9 LANDSCAPED, WHY DON’T THEY PUT THE LANDSCAPING IN BETWEEN THE 10 CARS AND THE BIKES? BECAUSE I’M -- I THINK IT’S GREAT TO HAVE BIKE 11 LANES, FOR SURE. WE WANT BIKE LANES. THERE’S NO QUESTION. SO THAT 12 NEW CONDITION 93 IS WONDERFUL. BUT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, YOU 13 SHOWED THE PICTURE OF THE ROAD, PEOPLE WILL JUST DRIVE ON THE -- I 14 MEAN, THEY WILL JUST DRIVE IN THE BIKE LANES. THEY -- YOU KNOW, SO IT 15 SEEMS LIKE THIS IS GREAT, BUT IT -- ISN’T THERE A -- CAN’T WE JUST TAKE 16 THAT LITTLE LANDSCAPING THING AND JUST MOVE IT OVER IN BETWEEN 17 THE BIKES AND THE CARS AND -- AND MAYBE -- OR SPLIT IT IN HALF AND 18 HAVE A LITTLE STRIP BETWEEN PEOPLE AND THE BIKES, AND THE BIKES AND 19 THE CARS? ANYWAY, I DON’T REALLY NEED YOU TO -- ACTUALLY, I’M 20 THINKING I DON’T REALLY NEED YOU TO ANSWER THIS RIGHT NOW, BUT I -- I 21 DON’T, YOU KNOW -- I’M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHY THESE THINGS ARE 22 ALWAYS SO COMPLICATED. AND SO THEY NEVER QUITE CAPTURE WHAT 23 YOU WANT THEM TO DO. SO IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT STATEMENT, 24 09421 McDaniel Court Reporters 75 (805) 544-3633 YOU CAN GIVE ME ONE. BUT YEAH. WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IS, THERE’S 1 GOING TO BE PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE OF THE BIKE LANE, AND PEOPLE ON THE 2 OTHER SIDE OF THE BIKE LANE, AND THERE’S GOING TO BE TWO CARS. AND 3 THEY’RE GOING TO GO, AND THEY’RE GOING TO GO INTO THE BIKE LANES. 4 THAT’S WHAT I’M CONCERNED ABOUT. SO JUST IS THERE A RESPONSE TO 5 THAT? 6 MR. SCHWARTZ: SURE. I SHARE YOUR HATRED FOR THE CLASS ONE 7 AND CLASS TWO. YOU CAN BLAME CAL TRANS FOR THAT. IN OUR ACTIVE 8 TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WE’RE NOT USING THAT AT ALL; WE’RE SAYING 9 BIKE LANE, PROTECTED BIKE LANE, SHARED STREET. IT SHOULD BE 10 INTUITIVE. 11 MS. CHRISTIANSON: OKAY. 12 MR. SCHWARTZ: THE -- WE TOTALLY LOOKED AT BRINGING THOSE 13 BIKE LANES UP TO, LIKE, A SIDEWALK LEVEL AND PUTTING THE 14 LANDSCAPED STRIP BETWEEN THEM. THE CHALLENGE IS YOU NEED 15 ADDITIONAL WIDTH TO PROVIDE MORE OF A BUFFER. AND THERE JUST 16 WASN’T ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY TO DO ALL OF THAT AT ONCE. THEN ON THE 17 -- YEAH. 18 MS. CHRISTIANSON: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO -- OKAY. THAT MAKES 19 SENSE. SO WE WILL HAVE A DISCUSSION WHEN IT’S TIME FOR DISCUSSION. 20 AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE -- IT’S BEEN TOUCHED ON A 21 LITTLE BIT BY SEVERAL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IN A DIFFERENT WAY. 22 AND THAT IS WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE’RE DOING TONIGHT, IF WE GO 23 FORWARD, IS BASICALLY APPROVING THE VILLAGIO PORTION OF THIS 24 09422 McDaniel Court Reporters 76 (805) 544-3633 PROJECT AS WELL AS SOME OF THE UNDERLYING ENTITLEMENTS, LIKE 1 ANNEXATION AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, BUT WE’RE NOT ACTUALLY 2 APPROVING THE COMMERCIAL TAIL AREA, AND WE’RE NOT ACTUALLY 3 APPROVING THE FINAL FOR THE MADONNA AND FROOM RANCH PART, THAT 4 HOUSING; IS THAT ACCURATE? 5 MR. CODRON: THAT IS CORRECT. IN FACT, WE’RE NOT EVEN 6 APPROVING THE VILLAGIO PORTION, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF HAVING IT BE 7 READY FOR DEVELOPMENT. WHAT WE’RE APPROVING IS A SUBDIVISION, SO 8 A TENTATIVE MAP THAT CREATES -- ENABLES VILLAGIO TO GO THROUGH 9 THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN TERMS OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW 10 AND PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW. AND THEN THE REMAINDER PORTIONS 11 ARE GOING TO BE THE -- IS THE MADONNA FROOM RANCH. AND THAT WILL 12 BE RE-SUBDIVIDED; THAT WILL COME IN LATER WITH THE DEVELOPMENT 13 APPLICATION FOR THAT SUBDIVISION. 14 MS. CHRISTIANSON: RIGHT. BUT WE, THE COUNCIL, WON’T SEE 15 VILLAGIO PART AGAIN? 16 MR. CODRON: ONLY IF IT’S APPEALED. 17 MS. CHRISTIANSON: RIGHT, RIGHT. 18 MR. CODRON: THAT WOULD BE AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PC. 19 MS. CHRISTIANSON: RIGHT. OKAY. SO MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH 20 THE HOTEL AND THE COMMERCIAL STUFF. IF WE WERE TO -- WE KNOW THAT 21 THEY ALSO -- THE OTHER PARTS THAT WE’RE NOT REALLY TALKING ABOUT 22 TONIGHT, THE DETAILS THAT WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THEY’RE 23 THE PARTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING MOST -- OR THE LARGE 24 09423 McDaniel Court Reporters 77 (805) 544-3633 MAJORITY -- FOR INSTANCE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS; WE KNOW VILLAGIO IS 1 NOT GOING TO REALLY CONTRIBUTE VERY MUCH OF THIS. IT’S A 2 RETIREMENT HOME, AND THEY HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRIVING 3 PATTERNS, AND COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, CIRCULATION HABIT -- 4 TRAFFIC HABITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO IF WE HAVE CONCERNS OR 5 IDEAS ABOUT THE OTHER PORTIONS, IS THAT -- WE’RE GOING TO BE DEALING 6 WITH THEM THEN? AND THIS IS WHAT I’M THINKING OF, IT’S THINGS LIKE, IF 7 WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO, YOU KNOW, CONDITION THE 8 BUILDING OF THE HOTEL, THE OCCUPANCY OF THE HOTEL TO THE, YOU 9 KNOW -- BUCKLEY ROAD HAS GOT TO HAVE GONE IN BY THEN. OR SUCH -- 10 PRADO ROAD HAS GOT TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, OR WHATEVER WE WERE 11 THINKING OF, WE WOULDN’T DO IT NOW, WOULD WE DO IT THEN? OR -- 12 THAT’S WHAT I’M WONDERING ABOUT. ANY KIND OF, LIKE, BIG PICTURE 13 PHASING -- 14 MR. CODRON: YOU KNOW, SO WE DO IT NOW TO THE EXTENT THAT WE 15 CAN. AND SO WHAT WE KNOW BASED ON THE STUDIES THAT WE’VE 16 CONDUCTED, WE ARE IMPLEMENTING PHASE MITIGATION AS IS REQUIRED. 17 SO YOU MENTIONED BUCKLEY ROAD. SO A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THAT THAT 18 HAS TO BE IN BEFORE THE MADONNA FROOM PORTION OF THE PROJECT 19 MOVES FORWARD. IF IT ISN’T CONSTRUCTED BY AVILA, ACTUALLY, THEN 20 THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE IMPROVEMENT IN 21 ORDER FOR IT TO GO FORWARD. SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH THE 22 NEXT -- WITH THAT SUBDIVISION OF MADONNA FROOM, YOU’LL BE GOING -- 23 THEY WILL BE GOING THROUGH A WHOLE NEW DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 24 09424 McDaniel Court Reporters 78 (805) 544-3633 AND SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, POTENTIALLY AN INITIAL STUDY, 1 AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW ASSOCIATED WITH THAT ENTITLEMENT. 2 THE -- IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD IDENTIFY THESE THINGS NOW IF WE 3 CAN, BUT IF -- CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND THE 4 DEVELOPMENT HORIZON, WHICH DEREK SPOKE TO EARLIER, WE WILL HAVE 5 THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY REVIEW THE NEW PROJECT THAT COMES 6 FORWARD AND APPLY THE CORRECT INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIREMENTS AND 7 TRIGGERS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. 8 MS. CHRISTIANSON: OKAY. YEAH. THERE WAS -- I NOTICED THAT 9 THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THIS PROJECT DEVELOPER WOULD 10 HAVE TO DO IF THEY WEREN’T DONE ELSEWHERE, BUT I JUST WAS KIND OF 11 WANTING TO CLARIFY WHAT -- ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE’RE NOT REALLY 12 DEALING WITH TONIGHT; THE COMMERCIAL HOTEL, AND THE WHOLE 13 MADONNA FROOM RANCH PART, WHICH ARE, AS I SAID, REALLY THE MAJOR 14 CONTRIBUTORS TO SOME OF THE MOST COMPLAINED ABOUT IMPACTS. THAT 15 IS IT FOR NOW. THANK YOU. 16 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 17 MS. STEWART: ONE MORE QUESTION. I’M NOT SURE IF THIS IS REALLY 18 FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR YOU, MICHAEL. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT A 19 LITTLE BIT DURING THE HOUSING ELEMENT, THE HEALTHY COMMUNITIES 20 GROUP. AND NOT SO MUCH THAT GROUP, BUT ARE WE LOOKING AT ALL 21 ABOUT, LIKE, COVID, COMMUNICABLE DISEASE AND HEATH SAFETY; IS THAT 22 ANYTHING THAT WE GET TO KIND OF LOOK AT WITH THE VILLAGIO PROJECT, 23 OR IS THAT REALLY JUST UP TO THEM AND THEIR NORMAL BUILDING CODES 24 09425 McDaniel Court Reporters 79 (805) 544-3633 PROCESS? 1 MR. CODRON: IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT ITSELF, IT IS 2 SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE CODES IN PLACE FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. 3 THE, YOU KNOW -- YOU THINK -- YOU RAISE A REALLY GOOD QUESTION, AND 4 IT’S SOMETHING ABSOLUTELY TO CONSIDER, AND IT’S SOMETHING THAT 5 WE’RE COLLABORATING ON COUNTY-WIDE. 6 SO OUR RESPONSE TO COVID IS, YOU KNOW, LED BY COUNTY 7 PUBLIC HEALTH, IMPLEMENTED AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, AND THE CITY IS 8 VERY INVOLVED IN IT. WE’RE CONTINUING TO MEET, YOU KNOW, WEEKLY. 9 AND THE ISSUES ARE COMING UP ALL THE TIME WHERE WE’RE ADJUSTING 10 OUR ACTIVITIES AS GUIDED BY OUR INSTANT ACTION PLAN IN THE 11 EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER. SO THAT IS STILL AN ACTIVE AND LIVE 12 INCIDENT THAT WE’RE COLLABORATING AND WORKING THROUGH. THE 13 SOLUTIONS APPLY JUST AS MUCH TO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AS TO 14 EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE TOWN, AND TO COMMERCIAL AREAS IN 15 OUR DOWNTOWN AND OTHER PARTS. 16 SO I DON’T KNOW OF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC THAT, 17 YOU KNOW, YOU COULD IMPLEMENT WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT 18 WOULD SORT OF PROTECT THEM FROM THIS KIND OF SITUATION IN THE 19 FUTURE. BUT WE, YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE ARE MANAGING THIS AND 20 CONSIDERING IT A COUNTY-WIDE ISSUE, AND WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR 21 THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. 22 MR. JOHNSON: IF I COULD, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, JUST TO 23 EXPAND UPON THAT. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS, YOU KNOW, 24 09426 McDaniel Court Reporters 80 (805) 544-3633 CLEARLY THAT COVID-19 IS GOING TO BE ENDEMIC. YOU KNOW, MEANING IT 1 WILL PERSIST BEYOND, YOU KNOW, A VACCINE. SO I THINK THAT, YOU 2 KNOW, IT’ S GOING TO BE PROBABLY UP TO PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICERS IN THE 3 STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL WHO WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE TO PROMULGATE 4 LOCAL HEALTH STANDARDS FOR CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITIES. YOU 5 KNOW, THAT’S CURRENTLY IN PLACE NOW. THERE ARE ORDERS IN PLACE 6 FOR OPERATIONS. YOU KNOW, I THINK CERTAINLY AS WE MOVE INTO, YOU 7 KNOW, BUILDING CODES, ETCETERA, THAT MAYBE -- I THINK THERE WILL BE 8 LIKELY SOME APPROPRIATE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AIR 9 CIRCULATIONS, AND THE TYPE OF FILTRATION SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE 10 TO MINIMIZE THE RISK OF EXPOSURE THROUGH THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS 11 THAT ARE IN THE BUILDING. 12 MS. STEWART: THANK YOU. I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THE, YOU 13 KNOW, CARBON FREE ELECTRIC THAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN 14 THE CODES ALREADY CHANGED BY THE TIME THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF 15 THAT PROCESS. AND THEN JUST THINKING COVID IS CHANGING REGULARLY, 16 SO HOW DO WE HELP THEM STAY UP TO THAT. 17 MAYOR HARMON: ALL RIGHT. SO NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM MY 18 COLLEAGUES, WE ARE QUITE LATE FOR OUR BREAK. SO WE WILL TAKE OUR 19 TEN MINUTE BREAK AND COME BACK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AT 8:50. 20 MR. CODRON: AND WE’LL HAVE AN APPLICANT PRESENTATION AS 21 WELL, MAYOR. 22 MAYOR HARMON: THAT’S WHAT I MEANT. IS -- CAN WE WAIT FOR A 23 BREAK, OR DOES THAT -- DOES THAT NOT -- 24 09427 McDaniel Court Reporters 81 (805) 544-3633 MR. CODRON: IT’S TOTALLY UP TO YOU. 1 MR. JOHNSON: WE CAN WAIT, MADAM MAYOR. THAT’S FINE IF YOU 2 WANT TO TAKE THE BREAK, AND THEN WE’LL COME BACK AND WE’LL START 3 FRESH. 4 MAYOR HARMON: WE CAN HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC WHEN WE 5 RETURN. ARE WE (INAUDIBLE). OKAY. GREAT. NOW WE WILL START BY 6 GIVING TEN MINUTES TO THE APPLICANT. AS A REMINDER, THE APPLICANT IS 7 ENTITLED TO TEN MINUTES OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND MAY RESERVE ANY 8 PORTION OF THAT TEN MINUTES FOR RESPONSE. AND SO, APPLICANT, IF YOU 9 WISH TO RESERVE ANY OF THAT TIME, WOULD YOU PLEASE LET THE CITY 10 CLERK KNOW BEFORE YOU BEGIN YOUR TIME, AND SHE WILL MAKE NOTE OF 11 ANY TIME THAT YOU HAVE REMAINING. AND SO WITH THAT, I’M NOT SURE 12 WHO IS SPEAKING FOR THE APPLICANT. BUT -- 13 MS. TERESA PURRINGTON: THAT WILL BE VICTOR MONTGOMERY. 14 MAYOR HARMON: GREAT. 15 MR. VICTOR MONTGOMERY: ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ME? 16 MAYOR HARMON: YES, SIR. 17 MR. MONTGOMERY: OKAY. MY NAME IS VICTOR MONTGOMERY. I’M 18 A PRINCIPAL AT RRM DESIGN GROUP, AND I’M THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR 19 THE FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. I’M GOING TO START OUR 20 PRESENTATION. AND THEN I’M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MARK DELOTTO, 21 AND HE HAS A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT VILLAGIO. THERE ARE 22 SEVERAL OTHER TEAM MEMBERS HERE THIS EVENING THAT ARE AVAILABLE 23 TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM. JOHN MADONNA IS THE 24 09428 McDaniel Court Reporters 82 (805) 544-3633 APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER. TIM WALTERS IS THE CIVIL ENGINEER. 1 PAM RICCI, ONE OF THE PRINCIPAL AUTHORS OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN 2 DOCUMENT. BOB RICHMOND, THE ARCHITECT FOR VILLAGIO. KEVIN MERK, 3 THE BIOLOGIST FOR THE PROJECT. AND JULIE HOWARD, WHO IS THE ONE ON 4 OUR TEAM THAT IS THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE OPERATIONS OF A LIFE 5 PLAN COMMUNITY. 6 I HAD SENT IN AN EARLIER REQUEST FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES. 7 I HOPE I CAN GET THEM . I HAD ESTIMATED OUR PRESENTATION AT ABOUT 16 8 MINUTES. BUT WE WILL GO VERY QUICKLY. I WANTED TO START WITH A 9 COMMENT BASED ON WHAT JUST HAPPENED OVER THE PAST SORT OF HOUR 10 AND A HALF. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING STAFF PRESENTATIONS 11 I HAVE EVER SEEN. THEY STOLE ALL OF MY THUNDER. AND I WANTED TO 12 SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR A JOB WELL DONE. IT WAS REALLY 13 SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 14 A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THESE 15 ARE THE PURPOSE STATEMENTS FOR THE FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. 16 AND I HIGHLIGHTED THEM. AND I’M NOT GOING TO READ THEM ALL TO YOU. 17 I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THIS PLAN WAS SPECIFICALLY DEVELOPED 18 AND EVALUATED TO ADDRESS EVERY ONE OF THE ITEMS HIGHLIGHTED IN 19 YELLOW, WHICH IS EVERY ONE OF THE PURPOSE STATEMENTS CONTAINED IN 20 THE GENERAL PLAN. NEXT SLIDE. 21 THIS IS ALSO STRAIGHT OUT OF THE GENERAL PLAN; 22 PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR THE VILLAGIO AREA. ON THE FAR RIGHT, 23 YOU’LL SEE A COMPARISON OF VILLAGIO TO THE STANDARDS THAT WERE IN 24 09429 McDaniel Court Reporters 83 (805) 544-3633 THE GENERAL PLAN. AND AS I NOTED, THERE’S THE POTENTIAL FOR 578 1 RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN THE FROOM RANCH SPECIFIC PLAN. LOOK AT THE 2 ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. I WANT TO NOTE 404 OF THOSE ARE 3 SENIOR HOUSING UNITS WITH SIZED STARTING AS SMALL AS 750 SQUARE 4 FEET. 5 THE SPECIFIC PLAN UNDER COMMERCIAL ALSO ENVISIONED UP 6 TO 350,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE. AND I THINK IT WAS EVEN 7 BACK IN 2016 AT THE ORIGINAL AUTHORIZATION HEARINGS, EVERYBODY 8 SAID, “THAT’S TOO MUCH. THAT DOESN’T SEEM WORKABLE AT ALL.” AS 9 COUNCILMAN GOMEZ NOTED, WE’VE PROPOSED 100,000 SQUARE FEET, AND 10 AS MIKE CODRON POINTED OUT, MOST OF THAT IS A HOTEL. THE 11 COMMUNITY PARK IS 3.6 ACRES, AND THE OPEN SPACE IS ABOUT 60 PERCENT. 12 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 13 THIS PROCESS STARTED WITH A DESIGN (INAUDIBLE) IN RRM’S 14 OFFICE IN 2016. AND YOU CAN SEE AND PROBABLY RECOGNIZE MANY OF THE 15 CITY STAFF MEMBERS WERE THERE. AND THAT’S HOW WE STARTED 16 LOOKING AT WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY. NEXT 17 SLIDE, PLEASE. 18 WE HAD A CONSTRAINTS ANALYSIS PREPARED VERY EARLY ON. 19 AND IT EXPRESSED A COUPLE OF KEY IDEAS. ONE WAS THE RELOCATION OF 20 THE CREEK TO SOMETHING THAT MORE RESEMBLED ITS HISTORIC PATH. WE 21 USED THIS CONSTRAINTS ANALYSIS AS THE BASIS FOR DESIGNING A 22 PROJECT. AND AS EVERYONE HAS NOTED, THERE WERE A LOT OF 23 CONSTRAINTS IN THE UPPER TERRACE AREA, RARE PLANTS, ETCETERA. NEXT 24 09430 McDaniel Court Reporters 84 (805) 544-3633 SLIDE, PLEASE. 1 THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED, THE 2017 PLAN. NEXT SLIDE, 2 PLEASE. 3 THIS WAS SOME SPECIFIC GUIDANCE WE RECEIVED FROM THE 4 CITY COUNCIL ABOUT HOW WE WERE TO PROCEED UNDER THE EIR. AND 5 THAT WAS TO BRING BACK TO YOU AN ALTERNATIVE OBSERVING THE 150 6 FOOT ELEVATION DEVELOPMENT LIMIT. 7 AT THE SAME TIME, BACK IN 2016 -- NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE -- WE 8 BEGAN TALKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT WE KNEW WERE GOING TO 9 HAVE A SAY IN HOW THIS PROJECT HAPPENED; A CORP OF ENGINEERS, STATE 10 FISH AND WILD LIFE, REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD, NOAA 11 FISHERIES, ETCETERA. 12 IN 2016, WE MET WITH THEM AND WE SAID, “YOU KNOW WHAT, 13 FOLKS; WE’RE THINKING ABOUT PROPOSING TO RELOCATE FROOM CREEK. IF 14 YOU THINK THIS IS A BAD IDEA, TELL US RIGHT NOW AND WE WILL DROP IT 15 AND NOT PURSUE IT ANY FURTHER.” WE HAVE HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH 16 THOSE SAME AGENCIES SINCE 2016. WE HAVE NEVER BEEN TOLD, DROP THE 17 IDEA; IT’S NOT WORKABLE. IN FACT, THE NOAA FISHERIES FOLKS SAID THEY 18 BELIEVED THAT IF YOU WERE A FISH, THE ENVIRONMENT COULD BE 19 SUBSTANTIALLY IMPROVED OVER WHAT THE CREEK IS LIKE TODAY. NEXT 20 SLIDE. 21 THANK YOU. EIR PRODUCED AN ALTERNATIVE ONE IN THIS 22 PROPOSED PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. 23 EMILY SHOWED YOU THIS, SO I’M GOING TO JUMP OVER IT VERY 24 09431 McDaniel Court Reporters 85 (805) 544-3633 QUICKLY. THIS WAS ALTERNATIVE ONE OUT OF THE EIR. CAN WE LOOK AT 1 THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? 2 THIS IS THE PROPOSED PROJECT LAND USE. YOU’VE ALSO SEEN 3 THIS BEFORE. I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU THAT IT’S ABOUT 60 PERCENT 4 OPEN SPACE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 5 THIS IS A PROPOSED SITE PLAN OF THE PROJECT WITH THE 6 SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS THAT EMILY POINTED OUT TO YOU. NO 7 DEVELOPMENT ON THE UPPER TERRACE. MINOR RESIDENTIAL ABOVE 150 IN 8 THE QUARRY AREA. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE’S ABOUT THREE 9 BUILDINGS PROPOSED UP THERE, COMPOSED OF ABOUT 12 UNITS. AND WHY 10 DID WE PROPOSE THAT? BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT’S IMPORTANT TO HAVE 11 EYES ON THE PARK 24 HOURS A DAY. HAVING THE PARK COMPLETELY 12 ISOLATED WITHOUT RESIDENTIAL -- AND SEE THE PARK, WE THOUGHT, 13 WOULD BE A MISTAKE. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 14 GREEN IS THE OPEN SPACE. THERE’S SOME BLUE STRIPED AREAS 15 IN THE GREEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. THAT’S THE 16 RECONFIGURED OPEN SPACE EASEMENT AREA. AND YOU’LL NOTE THAT 17 THAT INCLUDES AREAS SOUTH OF CALLE JOAQUIN THAT WERE LEFT OUT OF 18 THE ORIGINAL CONSERVATION EASEMENT. THE AREA IN RED AT THE 19 BOTTOM PART OF THE SLIDE IS THE WILD LIFE BUFFER, WILD LIFE 20 MIGRATION CORRIDOR DOWN TO FROOM CREEK. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 21 PROPOSED BUILDING HEIGHTS. THE BUILDING HEIGHTS VARY 22 FROM ONE STORY TO FOUR STORIES. THE DARKER THE COLOR, THE TALLER 23 THEY WOULD BE. AND TO THE POINTS RAISED BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ, 24 09432 McDaniel Court Reporters 86 (805) 544-3633 THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REACH PROGRAM, THEN IT GOES 1 WAY, WAY BEYOND THAT. IN THE FINAL EIR AND IN THE MITIGATION 2 MEASURES INCLUDED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR 3 PAGES OF ENERGY RELATED AND AIR QUALITY RELATED MITIGATION 4 MEASURES. I THINK THAT’S A TOTAL OF 39 OF THEM, ALL OF WHICH ARE 5 APPLIED TO THE PROJECT AND INCLUDE SOME OF THE THINGS MENTIONED; 6 ELECTRIC SHUTTLES, ELECTRIC CAR CHARGING, BIKE HUBS, ETCETERA. SO 7 THERE ARE MANY, MANY FEATURES OF THE PROJECT IMPOSED. NEXT. 8 THANK YOU. TRAILS AND CONNECTIONS. SO THE BLACK LINES, 9 THE BLACK DASHED LINES ARE THE EXISTING TRAILS IN THE IRISH HILLS 10 OPEN SPACE AREA. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE CONNECTED THEM IN TWO 11 PLACES. AND THESE ARE PUBLIC CONNECTIONS. ONE IS AT THE PUBLIC 12 PARK UP IN THE QUARRY AREA. THE OTHER IS, WE HAVE PROPOSED A PUBLIC 13 WALKING PATH ALONG THE REAL LINE IN FROOM CREEK. AND THAT 14 WALKING PATH GOES DIRECTLY TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT AND 15 CONNECTS TO THE EXISTING TRAILS. AND THAT ONE HAPPENS TO BE THE 16 NEIL HAVLIK TRAIL IT’S MAKING CONNECTION TO -- WE HAVE A PEDESTRIAN 17 GATE TO KEEP THE COWS OUT OF THE PROJECT IF THE CITY EVER PUT COWS 18 OUT THERE FOR MAINTENANCE. 19 THERE ARE SIDE (INAUDIBLE) IN THE PROJECT; THOSE ARE 20 INDICATED IN RED. THERE ARE BLUE STARS. BLUE STARS ARE WHERE THERE 21 ARE PEDESTRIAN ACCESSES AVAILABLE TO THE PROJECT INCLUDING 22 PEDESTRIAN BIKE ACCESS TO THE HOME DEPOT AND COSTCO CENTER, AS 23 WELL AS AN ACCESS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PART OF LOVR. NEXT SLIDE, 24 09433 McDaniel Court Reporters 87 (805) 544-3633 PLEASE. 1 THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN OF THE PARK. IT’S ENLARGED SO 2 YOU CAN SEE WHAT’S GOING ON. IT CONTAINS THE FOUR BUILDINGS THAT 3 ARE PROPOSED TO BE RETAINED. AND AS A PARENTHETICAL COMMENT, THE 4 THREE HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING RETAINED CAN’T BE 5 REMOVED. THEY ARE IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THAT THEY ARE, IN FACT, 6 LEANING ON OTHER STOCK, CONTAINERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEY 7 WILL FALL DOWN IF WE TRY AND MOVE THEM. SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO 8 DOCUMENT THEM, SAVE THE MATERIALS, REMOVE -- REUSE THE MATERIALS 9 IF WE CAN ON THE OTHER HISTORIC BUILDINGS TO BE PRESERVED. 10 NUMBER ONE IN THIS PARK PLAN IS THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT’S 11 JOHN MADONNA’S CONSTRUCTION OFFICE. TWO IS THE CREAMERY 12 BUILDING. THREE IS THE BIG BARN. FOUR IS THE GRANARY. THOSE -- THREE 13 OF THOSE BUILDINGS -- ONE, TWO AND THREE -- ARE PROPOSED TO BE 14 REPURPOSED AS FACILITIES FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. ONE WOULD BE A 15 RANGER STATION. TWO WOULD BE PUBLIC RESTROOMS AND A COVERED 16 PICNIC AREA. AND THREE WOULD BE AN EQUIPMENT BARN FOR THE PARKS 17 DEPARTMENT TO STORE THEIR MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT AND THINGS LIKE 18 THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THE IRISH HILLS OPEN SPACE AND OTHER 19 ACTIVITIES IN TOWN. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 20 FIRE PROTECTION BUFFER AND EMERGENCY ACCESS. AND THIS -21 - YOU HEARD FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT OUR EXTENSIVE 22 CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH THIS PROPERTY AT 23 THIS LOCATION. THE ORANGE STRIP ALONG THE BOUNDARY OF THE PROJECT 24 09434 McDaniel Court Reporters 88 (805) 544-3633 IS A PROPOSED FUEL REDUCTION BUFFER. IT’S 100 FEET WIDE. AND THAT 100 1 FEET STARTS FROM THE NEAREST STRUCTURE. THERE ARE ALSO THREE RED 2 STARS. THOSE THREE RED STARS ARE THE LOCATIONS WHERE YOU CAN GET 3 IN OR OUT OF THIS PROJECT EITHER FULL TIME AT AUTO PARK WAY, OR AS 4 EMERGENCY ACCESS POINTS IN OR OUT OF THE PROJECT, WHICH WOULD BE 5 ADJACENT TO THE HOME DEPOT AND ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF LOVR. IN 6 ADDITION, THERE’S THREE BLUE STARS ON THERE. THIS CAME ABOUT IN 7 OUR DIALOGUE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 8 RIGHT NOW, IF THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE IRISH HILLS AND YOU 9 TRIED TO GET THERE FROM THIS SITE, YOU’D HAVE TO CROSS THE CREEK, 10 AND THERE’S NO BRIDGE. YOU’D HAVE TO DRIVE DOWN INTO THE CREEK TO 11 CROSS IT, GO UP INTO THE IRISH HILLS. WITH THIS PROJECT, THERE’S THREE 12 STAGING AREAS PROPOSED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO 13 STAGE MEN AND EQUIPMENT TO GO INTO THE IRISH HILLS IF THEY NEED TO 14 DO FIRE MANAGEMENT. 15 LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT, AND THE FIRE 16 DEPARTMENT MENTIONED, THAT WE HAVE TO DO A COMMUNITY FIRE PLAN 17 TO BE EVALUATED BY THE CITY FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE NATURAL 18 RESOURCES MANAGER. WE ALSO ARE REQUIRED TO DO A SAFETY 19 DOCUMENT FOR THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND 20 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES OF THE STATE. WE HAVE TO 21 SUBMIT THOSE, AND THEY HAVE TO REVIEW THEM, AND THEY HAVE TO 22 HAVE THEM APPROVED. AND THEY ADDRESS FIRE, EVACUATION, SHELTER IN 23 PLACE, OFF SITE PLACES THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE ANYBODY THAT’S 24 09435 McDaniel Court Reporters 89 (805) 544-3633 EVACUATED, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. 1 ONE OF MY LAST COMMENTS BEFORE I GET TO CLOSING IS 2 YOU’VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THIS EIR. IT WAS BIG, IT WAS EXPENSIVE, IT 3 TOOK A LONG TIME, BUT IN MY OPINION, IN THIS CASE, THE EIR WAS USED 4 THE WAY IT’S SUPPOSED TO BE USED. WE USED IT TO IDENTIFY ISSUES. AND 5 AS THOSE ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED, WE ADDRESSED THEM, EITHER MITIGATE 6 THE PROJECT, OR MAKE A BETTER PROJECT DESIGN. AND ULTIMATELY, THAT 7 SHOULD BE ONE OF THE USES OF CEQA IN MY OPINION. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 8 SO WE’VE REVIEWED THE STAFF REPORT, THE 9 RECOMMENDATIONS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, THE MITIGATION 10 MEASURES AND FINDINGS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 11 WE ARE URGING YOU TONIGHT TO ADOPT THE 12 RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STAFF REPORT, TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, 13 ADOPT THE ORDINANCE, AND ALLOW THE PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD TO 14 ITS NEXT PHASE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT 15 THIS EVENING. WE REQUEST THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC 16 TESTIMONY IF THERE IS ANY. AND AT THIS POINT, I’M GOING TO TURN IT 17 OVER THE MARK DELOTTO; HE HAS A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION 18 SPECIFICALLY ABOUT VILLAGIO. THANK YOU. 19 MR. MARK DELOTTO: THANK YOU. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? OKAY, 20 GREAT. THANKS VIC, AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME 21 AND CONSIDERATION OF OUR PROJECT THIS EVENING. 22 I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT A LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY -- 23 OH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE WE GO. I WANT TO START BY SAYING THAT 24 09436 McDaniel Court Reporters 90 (805) 544-3633 A LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY IS A SPECIAL TYPE OF SENIOR HOUSING. IT HAS A 1 MUCH GREATER PURPOSE THAN JUST PROVIDING HOUSING FOR ITS 2 RESIDENTS. THE OVERARCHING GOAL OF A LIFE PLAN COMMUNITY IS TO 3 PROVIDE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT ADVANCES HEALTHY AND LIFE RICH 4 LIVING WHILE PROVIDING SUPPORT AND CARE NEEDED AS RESIDENTS GROW 5 OLDER ALL IN A SINGLE LOCATION. 6 IF COMMUNITIES ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL BY PROVIDING THE 7 RESIDENTS WITH NOT ONLY A HOME, BUT ALSO AN AMENITIES PACKAGE 8 AND A BUNDLE OF SERVICES (INAUDIBLE) TO MEET THE NEEDS AND 9 PREFERENCES OF OLDER ADULTS. INCLUDED IN THOSE SERVICES ARE 10 HIGHER LEVELS OF CARE, INCLUDING ASSISTED LIVING, MEMORY CARE, AND 11 SKILLED NURSING. ADDITIONALLY, THESE COMMUNITIES OFFER LIFE 12 ENRICHING PROGRAMMING THAT INCLUDES EDUCATION, RECREATION, 13 ENTERTAINMENT, AND SPIRITUAL ACTIVITIES AND EVENTS. IN EXCHANGE 14 FOR THEIR RESIDENCY IN THESE COMMUNITIES, THE RESIDENTS PAY A ONE-15 TIME REPAYABLE ENTRANCE FEE, AND THEREAFTER A MONTHLY FEE FOR AS 16 LONG AS THEY ARE RESIDENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 17 MAYOR HARMON: SIR, IF YOU’RE SPEAKING, WE CAN’T HEAR YOU. OR 18 AT LEAST I CAN’T HEAR. NOBODY? OKAY. TERESA? 19 MS. PURRINGTON: I BELIEVE HE MAY HAVE LOST INTERNET 20 CONNECTION. 21 MAYOR HARMON: HMM. OKAY. 22 MS. PURRINGTON: I THINK WE CAN READ THE SLIDE. 23 MS. CHRISTIANSON: I’M READING, AND IT’S PERFECTLY CLEAR. 24 09437 McDaniel Court Reporters 91 (805) 544-3633 MAYOR HARMON: WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO QUICKLY STEP IN? 1 MR. MONTGOMERY: VICTOR. 2 MAYOR HARMON: GO AHEAD. 3 MR. MONTGOMERY: SO AS IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, I’M 4 ASSUMING YOU CAN HEAR ME, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT NEED FOR THIS TYPE 5 OF HOUSING, SENIOR HOUSING. AND THE SEARCH FOR A SITE FOR THIS 6 PROJECT STARTED 15 YEARS AGO AND ENCOMPASSED AN AREA WITHIN THE 7 ENTIRE COUNTY. THERE’S NOTHING LIKE THIS WITHIN 90 MILES. TO DATE, 8 500 HOUSEHOLDS HAVE SIGNED UP TO BECOME MEMBERS OF THE 9 COMMUNITY, 386 ARE STILL IN THE PROGRAM. THE BALANCE HAVE EITHER 10 DROPPED OUT OR MOVED AWAY BECAUSE THEY COULDN’T WAIT. THIS 11 PARCEL IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT’S IN THE CITY. AND AS THE EIR POINTED OUT, 12 THERE’S NOT ANOTHER SITE IN THE CITY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS 13 KIND OF A PROGRAM. THE SITE IS UNIQUE. IT HAS THE RIGHT 14 CHARACTERISTICS, AND IT’S IN THE -- IDENTIFIED AS AN EXPANSION AREA. 15 NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 16 VILLAGIO IS NOT AN OUTSIDE DEVELOPER; IT’S A LOCAL 17 COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATION WITH ONE PURPOSE, TO DO VILLAGIO. 18 THERE ARE 71 LOCAL INVESTORS. THERE’S A SIX MEMBER BOARD OF 19 MANAGERS, THEY’RE ALL LOCAL FOLKS. AND IT’S ADMINISTERED BY A 20 SMALL GROUP OF LOCAL PROFESSIONALS. AND THAT WOULD BE JULIE 21 HOWARD AND SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT WILL OPERATE THE LPC. NEXT, 22 PLEASE. 23 OF THE RESERVATION SIGN UPS WE HAVE TODAY, 84 PERCENT OF 24 09438 McDaniel Court Reporters 92 (805) 544-3633 THEM ARE FOR SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY. THE ENTRANCE FEES ARE BASED 1 OFF OF HOME VALUES. MONTHLY FEES ARE COMMENSURATE WITH MEDIAN 2 INCOME. AND THE PROJECT IS REQUIRED TO AND WILL MEET ITS 3 AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS AS LAID OUT IN THE CITY’S 4 INCLUSIONARY HOUSING PROGRAM. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 5 SO WHAT’S IT GOING TO BE LIKE, AND WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? 6 SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, THEY’RE LOCAL FOLKS. AND THEY ARE ALREADY 7 PARTICIPATING IN LOCAL PROGRAMS, LIKE MEALS PROGRAMS. NEXT. 8 THERE’S JUST A FEW OF THESE. THE LAND CONSERVANCY IS A 9 PARTNER. NEXT. 10 UNITED WAY IS A VILLAGIO PARTNER. NEXT. 11 THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN? THIS 12 HAPPENS BECAUSE THESE ARE LOCAL PEOPLE WHO WANT TO STAY IN THIS 13 COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY’RE ALREADY INVOLVED IN IT. NEXT SLIDE. 14 ANOTHER ONE, NOT GOING TO READ THEM TO YOU. NEXT SLIDE. 15 I THINK THERE ARE FOUR MORE SLIDES. THEY’RE GOING TO GO 16 REALLY QUICK. THESE ARE IMAGES OF THE ARCHITECTURE FOR VILLAGIO 17 AS WE CURRENTLY ENVISION THEM. NEXT SLIDE. 18 THIS IS THE COURTYARD AREA CALLED THE COMMONS IN THE 19 CENTER OF THE PROJECT. NEXT SLIDE. 20 THESE ARE THE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES THAT MIGHT HAPPEN 21 WITHIN THAT COURTYARD; FARMERS MARKET, ETCETERA. NEXT SLIDE. 22 ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE INTERIOR COURTYARD LOOKING THE 23 OTHER DIRECTION. NEXT SLIDE. 24 09439 McDaniel Court Reporters 93 (805) 544-3633 THAT’S THE LAST PICTURE IMAGE OF VILLAGIO. I WANT TO SAY 1 THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. WE’RE HAPPY 2 TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE ANY. AND ON 3 BEHALF OF MARK DELOTTO WHO GOT CUT OFF, THANKS AGAIN. 4 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE WILL GO TO 5 ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT. 6 MS. PURRINGTON: OKAY. WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAK- -- PERSON 7 SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, ALANA REYNOLDS. YOUR MIC HAS BEEN 8 UNMUTED, BUT IT SHOWS YOU SELF MUTED. 9 MS. ALANA REYNOLDS: OKAY. I’M UNMUTED. 10 MS. PURRINGTON: YES. 11 MS. REYNOLDS: THANK YOU. I’VE BEEN FOLLOWING VILLAGIO FOR 12 ABOUT FOUR YEARS, I BELIEVE. AS ALREADY BEEN TALKED ABOUT, THERE’S 13 DEFINITELY A NEED IN THIS AREA. I’VE BEEN IN SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY 14 SINCE ’79 WHEN I CAME HERE TO GO TO CAL POLY. I LIVED IN LAGUNA LAKE 15 AREA IN ’80, AND THEN I OWNED A HOME THERE FROM THE LATE ‘80’S INTO 16 THE ‘90’S. AT THAT POINT, THERE WAS NO COSTCO, THERE WAS NO HOME 17 DEPOT, THERE WAS NO GROCERY STORES. I THINK BEAR VALLEY WAS 18 THERE. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OR TWO CAR LOTS. 19 SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP IS RELATED 20 TO TRAFFIC. THEY’VE OBVIOUSLY DOUBLED THE SIZE OF LOS OSOS VALLEY 21 ROAD. THIS PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF IS NOT GOING TO BE TRAFFIC AS IF IT 22 WAS A RESIDENTIAL. AS WAS JUST SHARED A LITTLE BIT, WE WILL HAVE 23 MEALS THERE, RESTAURANTS, BAR, DANCING, SPA, TENNIS COURTS, 24 09440 McDaniel Court Reporters 94 (805) 544-3633 THEATERS, GYM, HIKING. WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE, AS SENIORS, GETTING IN 1 THE CAR AND DRIVING OUT TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. SO TRAFFIC-WISE, I 2 THINK YOU CAN BE REST ASSURED THAT WE’RE NOT GOING TO BE ADDING, 3 AS RESIDENTS, A LOT OF TRAFFIC. 4 ONE OTHER THING, FOR THE FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO THE CITY 5 OF SAN LUIS OBISPO, IT WAS JUST SAID 84 PERCENT OF US LIVE IN THE CITY, 6 AND I’M IN THE COUNTY. WHEN THOSE OF US, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US 7 THAT HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, OWNING OUR HOMES FOR A LONG 8 TIME, WE’RE GOING TO PUT THREE AND FOUR BEDROOM HOMES FOR SALE 9 OUT TO OTHER FAMILIES. THE PROPERTY TAX IS GOING TO GO UP 10 TREMENDOUSLY FROM WHAT WE’VE BEEN PAYING FOR 30 YEARS. SO THAT’S 11 GOING TO BE A BIG FINANCIAL BENEFIT AS WELL AS MORE HOUSING 12 AVAILABLE TO FAMILIES IN THE AREA. 13 IT WAS SPOKEN ABOUT EMISSIONS. I’M GOING TO BE USING A 14 LOT LESS POWER IN MY ONE BEDROOM, OR ONE BEDROOM WITH A DEN 15 THERE THAN I WILL BE IN THE FOUR BEDROOM HOME THAT I’M IN RIGHT 16 NOW. SO AS FAR AS EMISSIONS, ENERGY, GAS THAT MIGHT BE USED TO 17 CREATE SOME OF THE ENERGY, THAT’S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPENING 18 BECAUSE MOST OF US WILL BE DOWNSIZING TREMENDOUSLY TO GO INTO 19 THIS UNIT. 20 THE -- WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE 21 THIS, BOTH OF MY PARENTS PASSED AWAY RECENTLY. MY ONE CHILD IS A 22 LONG WAY AWAY. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE THAT I COULD 23 BE HERE, KNOW THAT IT COULD BE WHERE I WAS GOING TO LIVE FOR THE 24 09441 McDaniel Court Reporters 95 (805) 544-3633 REST OF MY LIFE AND NOT HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF I GOT ILL. SO 1 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, TO ME, IS A HUGE, HUGE BENEFIT. 2 THE ONE OTHER THING, IF THIS AREA, SINCE IT’S NOW A PART OF 3 THE COUNTY, NOT THE CITY -- IF THIS BECAME RESIDENTIAL, THERE 4 WOULDN’T BE THE TAX BENEFITS FOR YOU. THERE WOULDN’T BE THE 150 5 FOOT LIMIT, I DON’T BELIEVE, SINCE MEADOWBROOK IS RIGHT THERE AND IS 6 TALLER THAN THAT. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE YOU GUYS TO VERY 7 STRONGLY CONSIDER THIS AS A BENEFIT TO THE CITY, A BENEFIT TO THE 8 SENIORS, DEFINITELY NOT INCREASING TRAFFIC FLOW, TO COMPLETELY 9 SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT WE’VE DONE WITH ALL THE REDESIGNING AND 10 THE SUGGESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. 11 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU, MA’AM. AND I’M SORRY FOR YOUR 12 LOSS OF YOUR PARENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, I GUESS IT WOULD BE VIC, A 13 QUESTION. I KNOW I HAD TALKED TO THE APPLICANT TEAM. I DON’T 14 REMEMBER WHO SPECIFICALLY SINCE THIS CONVERSATION HAS BEEN A 15 LONG ONE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR 16 INCLUDING A MUCH NEEDED CHILDCARE IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS 17 PROJECT. I WAS JUST CURIOUS, IS THAT ANY KIND OF POSSIBILITY THAT’S 18 STILL ON THE TABLE? IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD COMBINATION WITH SOME OF 19 OUR ELDERS. WHERE IS THAT POSSIBILITY, IF AT ALL? 20 MR. MONTGOMERY: THE ANSWER IS ABSOLUTELY YES, AND STILL ON 21 THE TABLE. WE SPECIFICALLY SET UP THE TABLE OF ALLOWED USES TO 22 ALLOW -- EXCUSE ME -- CHILDCARE. WE HAVE NOT PROPOSED A CHILDCARE 23 FACILITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE A LICENSED OPERATOR. AND VILLAGIO 24 09442 McDaniel Court Reporters 96 (805) 544-3633 IS NOT YET EVEN AN APPROVED PROJECT, SO THEY CAN’T BE A LICENSED 1 OPERATOR. BUT IT IS SOMETHING THEY WANT TO DO. WE’VE HAD A LOT OF 2 CONVERSATIONS WITH MOUNTAINBROOK CHURCH ABOUT A SYMBIOTIC 3 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE SCHOOL THEY’RE GOING TO BUILD UP THERE 4 AND THE ABILITY OF THESE RESIDENTS FROM VILLAGIO TO ACT AS 5 MENTORS, TEACHERS, TEACHER’S AIDS, ETCETERA, AT THE 6 MOUNTAINBROOK SCHOOL IF WE DON’T DO IT ON SITE. SO YES, IT’S STILL IN 7 THE CARDS, DEFINITELY IN THE ALLOWABLE USES LIST. 8 MAYOR HARMON: OKAY. WONDERFUL VIC. THANK YOU FOR THAT. 9 THAT’S GREAT NEWS. WE KNOW WE NEED THE SENIOR HOUSING AND 10 HOUSING OF ALL TYPES. AND THERE’S JUST A DESPERATE NEED FOR 11 CHILDCARE. SO THAT’S GREAT TO HEAR THAT THAT’S IN THE REALM OF 12 POSSIBILITY. AND I HOPE THAT IT’S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THAT WILL OCCUR 13 HERE IN THIS PROJECT. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. DO ANY OF MY 14 COLLEAGUES HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS? I’M NOT SEEING ANY 15 HANDS. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 16 MS. STEWART: SORRY ABOUT THAT. JUST CURIOUS, I KNOW WE -- I 17 ASKED EARLIER FOR THE STAFF, AS FAR AS WORKER PREFERENCE AND 18 HOUSING, IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? 19 MR. MONTGOMERY: IS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OF IT? YES. THE 20 AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT’S GOING TO BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE 21 PROJECT, AT THIS POINT WE’RE NOT SURE WHO IS GOING TO OPERATE IT. 22 AND MIKE CODRON MAY IN FACT KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO. IF 23 IT’S OPERATED BY ONE OF THE LOCAL NON-PROFITS LIKE PEOPLE’S OR 24 09443 McDaniel Court Reporters 97 (805) 544-3633 HASLO, ON THE REGULATED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS DEED 1 RESTRICTED BY THE CITY, THERE ARE PRETTY STRICT PARAMETERS, I THINK, 2 REGARDING HOW YOU CAN OR CANNOT DO PREFERENCE BECAUSE OF THE 3 FEDERAL REGULATIONS IF THERE’S ANY FEDERAL MONEY INVOLVED. SO I’M 4 GOING TO TURN TO MICHAEL AND USE HIS EXPERTISE BECAUSE IT’S 5 PROBABLY BETTER THAN MINE. I WOULD SAY THE INTENT IS THERE. HOW 6 TO DO IT IS A DIFFERENT MATTER UNLESS IT IS COMPLETELY DEVELOPED BY 7 A PRIVATE ENTITY. AND WE DON’T KNOW WHETHER THAT WILL HAPPEN YET 8 OR NOT. 9 MS. STEWART: OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I JUST ALSO WANT TO 10 ECHO MAYOR HARMON’S INTEREST IN SEEING A CHILDCARE. I KNOW THAT 11 ALLIE AND I TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT. I HOPE THAT WE GET TO SEE -- 12 YOU’VE GOT THE GENERATIONAL CHILDCARE OPTION, OR JUST ACTUAL 13 CHILDCARE CENTER ON YOUR SITE. AND I’M JUST CURIOUS, AS FAR AS THE 14 HOTEL, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO HAVE A HOTEL FOR PEOPLE WHO 15 MIGHT COME AND VISIT, BUT JUST SEEING HOW THE COMMUNITY AS A 16 WHOLE STILL HAS QUITE A FEW HOTELS, I’M JUST CURIOUS WHY THAT WAS 17 YOUR POTENTIAL DESIRE. 18 MR. MONTGOMERY: ONE; WE THINK IT’S A GOOD PLACE FOR A HOTEL, 19 SECOND OF ALL; YOU HIT ON IT. THERE ARE PROBABLY A FAIR NUMBER OF 20 VISITORS COMING TO SEE THEIR PARENTS, CHILDREN COMING TO SEE THEIR 21 PARENTS, GRANDCHILDREN, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. IT SEEMS LIKE A 22 REASONABLE THING TO HAVE HAPPEN NEARBY. CAN WE PROMISE YOU A 23 HOTEL? NO. WE AREN’T EVEN AN APPROVED PROJECT YET. BUT AGAIN, IT’S 24 09444 McDaniel Court Reporters 98 (805) 544-3633 ON THE APPROVED LIST OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN THERE. IT’S 1 SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE BECAUSE WE THINK IT’S IN THE RIGHT 2 PLACE, IT’S ATTRACTIVE FOR A HOTEL USER. IT WOULD NOT BE A GIANT 3 HOTEL; WE’RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 4 OF 100 ROOMS, MAYBE 110 OR LESS. 5 MS. STEWART: OKAY. THANK YOU. 6 MAYOR HARMON: COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE? 7 MS. PEASE: THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO START WITH THIS. IT 8 SEEMED LIKE MICHAEL CODRON WAS GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT LOCAL 9 WORKER PREFERENCE ON THE HOUSING. I WANTED TO HEAR THAT 10 RESPONSE. 11 MR. CODRON: YEAH. I WAS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE, I 12 WAS JUST GOING TO REITERATE THAT IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON WHO THE 13 AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER IS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS 14 MAY BE ON THAT FRONT IN TERMS OF SPECIFYING, YOU KNOW, PREFERENCE 15 FOR OCCUPANCY. AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT. YOU KNOW, WE’VE TALKED 16 ABOUT DIFFERENT CONCEPTS FOR THE PROPERTY. ONE THAT WE TALKED 17 ABOUT EARLY ON, AND AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON WHO THE AFFORDABLE 18 HOUSING DEVELOPER WOULD BE, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AS AN 19 AFFORDABLE SENIOR HOUSING PROJECT, AND WHERE RESIDENTS MIGHT 20 HAVE ACCESS TO SOME OF THE FACILITIES WITHIN VILLAGIO. AND YOU 21 KNOW, THAT WAS JUST AN EARLY CONCEPT. AND AGAIN, IT DEPENDS ON 22 WHO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER IS. THE ACTUAL APPLICATION 23 OF THE INCLUSIONARY HOUSING REQUIREMENT WOULD COME WHEN THOSE 24 09445 McDaniel Court Reporters 99 (805) 544-3633 PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND CODE 1 REQUIREMENTS ARE APPLIED, AND THROUGH THOSE FUTURE ENTITLEMENTS 2 WE’LL WORK ON THE SPECIFICS OF HOW THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING 3 REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS 15 PERCENT OF THE TOTAL UNITS -- YOU KNOW, 4 HOW THE REQUIREMENTS ARE IMPLEMENTED. 5 MS. PEASE: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND YOU KNOW, AND 6 OF NOTE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE’RE TALKING ABOUT 7 KIND OF THAT INCLUSIONARY PIECE. HOPEFULLY, THE EMPLOYEES AT THE 8 CENTER ARE ABLE TO AFFORD THE MARKET RATE HOUSING, WHICH MAKES 9 UP THE MAJORITY OF THE PROJECT. SO I DON’T WANT TO BE ASSUMING THAT 10 THESE ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, LOW PAID. THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK 11 AT THE BEGINNING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD, KIND OF THAT 12 MIDDLE INCOME KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES AS WELL. 13 AND THEN MY QUESTION STILL -- OR MY QUESTION NOW IS -- 14 AND MAY BE TO MICHAEL, MAY BE TO VIC, BUT IT BUILDS UPON COUNCIL 15 MEMBER GOMEZ’S QUESTION IN TERMS OF THAT COMMERCIAL 16 DEVELOPMENT. OBVIOUSLY, WE’VE MADE A SUPER POSITIVE SWITCH TO GO 17 FROM 350,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL TO 100,000 AND BUMP UP THE 18 HOUSING. THAT’S BEEN A DIRECTION OUR COUNCIL HAS REALLY FOCUSED 19 ON A LOT, OURS AND THE PRIOR COUNCIL. AND I GUESS I WANTED TO CHECK 20 IN ON THAT 100,000 SQUARE FOOT NUMBER. I KNOW WE HAVE A GENERAL 21 PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE FINANCIALLY BALANCED. AND SO I WANT TO SEE 22 IF THAT 100,000 -- THE SWEET SPOT FOR THE CITY, OR FOR THE DEVELOPER, 23 OR IS IT -- IF IT WERE EVEN LESS, WOULD THERE BE DIFFERENT KIND OF 24 09446 McDaniel Court Reporters 100 (805) 544-3633 TRADE OFFS? I’M JUST KIND OF WANTING TO SEE WHERE THAT NUMBER 1 (INAUDIBLE). 2 MR. CODRON: WELL, FOR THE CITY, I WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE THE 3 PROJECT (INAUDIBLE) WERE IN THE RANGE OF WHAT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE 4 GENERAL PLAN, OUR OVERALL FISCAL ANALYSIS IN THE GENERAL PLAN WAS 5 WHAT WE RELIED UPON FOR UNDERSTANDING THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL 6 IMPACTS OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN. SO IF WE DROP BELOW 100,000 SINCE THAT’S 7 THE -- OR DROP BELOW 50,000, I THINK, WHICH IS THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE 8 IN THE GENERAL PLAN, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY WANT TO TAKE A 9 DIFFERENT APPROACH IN TERMS OF WHAT THE ECONOMIC AND FISCAL 10 ANALYSIS IS. BUT BECAUSE IT’S IN THE RANGE, YOU KNOW, WE’RE 11 COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND THINK THAT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY 12 BECAUSE THE PROPERTY IS NOT ANNEXED INTO THE CITY AT THIS POINT AND 13 IT’S VACANT LAND, WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NEGOTIATE THAT TAX 14 EXCHANGE WITH THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, HOPE TO DO A GOOD JOB 15 WITH THAT TO HELP THE CITY’S, YOU KNOW, FISCAL BOTTOM LINE AS WELL. 16 AND THEN IF -- VIC MAY WANT TO WEIGH IN IN TERMS OF THE PROJECT 17 ECONOMICS AROUND THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. 18 MR. MONTGOMERY: IN TERMS OF THE DEVELOPER APPROACH TO 19 THIS, IT WAS NOT DRIVEN BY ECONOMICS. IT WAS DRIVEN BY ONE, MEETING 20 THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE GENERAL 21 PLAN, WHICH WAS 50,000 SQUARE FEET. SO WE SHRANK IT FROM 350. WE 22 FELT THE HOTEL WAS A PROBABLE USE THAT COULD HAPPEN. THE 23 REMAINDER OF IT COULD BE A COMBINATION OF USES. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO 24 09447 McDaniel Court Reporters 101 (805) 544-3633 BE RETAIL. AND THERE MAY BE SOME NEED FOR MEDICAL OFFICES 1 ASSOCIATED WITH THIS. SOME -- YOU KNOW, AN EYE DOCTOR, OR 2 SOMEBODY MAY WANT TO LOCATE IN PROXIMITY TO THE VILLAGIO. AND SO 3 THERE’S THAT 30,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE THAT COULD BE A NUMBER OF 4 COMMERCIAL USES AS LAID OUT IN THE SPECIFIC (INAUDIBLE). 5 MS. PEASE: GREAT. THAT’S HELPFUL. I’M MUTED. 6 MAYOR HARMON: ALL RIGHT. I’M NOT SEEING ANY OTHER HANDS 7 FROM MY COLLEAGUES. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? CARLYN? 8 MS. CHRISTIANSON: YEAH. I’VE CHANGED MY COMPUTER SO I CAN’T 9 SEE ANYBODY BESIDES THE SCREEN, SO IT’S NICE. BUT I DON’T KNOW WHO 10 ELSE HAS THEIR HAND UP. SO I WAS WAITING. YES. I APPRECIATE STAFF’S 11 PRESENTATION; MICHAEL, SHAWNA, EMILY, ERIKA, AND THEN LUKE ADDING 12 IN THERE, AS WELL AS CHIEF AGGSON. AND IT WAS A VERY CLEAR STAFF 13 REPORT AND I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. I ALSO WANTED TO JUST 14 THANK, BEFORE I KIND OF GOT INTO A COUPLE OF THINGS -- I WANTED TO 15 THANK THE STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE GROUPS LIKE 16 THE CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY, AND THE SENIORS WHO -- AND 17 FOLKS LIKE THAT WHO ACTUALLY STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS AND 18 PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS AREA RIGHT AFTER THE (INAUDIBLE) WENT 19 THROUGH OR -- IN 2015, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, HAD A BIG INFLUENCE ON 20 GETTING THIS A LOT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY APPROPRIATE IN TERMS OF 21 NOT LOOKING AT THAT UPPER AREA WHICH WAS -- IN VERY 22 ENVIRONMENTALLY SENSITIVE. SO I’M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE’VE MOVED 23 IN THAT DIRECTION. AND I WANTED TO MAKE A SPECIFIC SHOUT OUT TO 24 09448 McDaniel Court Reporters 102 (805) 544-3633 FORMER MAYOR JAN MARX WHO, ALONG WITH ME, ON THE COUNCIL -- IT 1 WAS SUPPORTED IN GENERAL BY THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE THE DIRECTION 2 WAS GIVEN. BUT BOTH OF US REALLY INSISTED UPON SEEING AN 3 ENVIRONMENTALLY SUPERIOR ALTERNATIVE ACTUALLY FULLY DEVELOPED 4 IN THE EIR. AND THAT DOESN’T USUALLY NECESSARILY HAPPEN. YOU 5 KNOW, LOTS OF TIMES IT WILL TURN INTO A CERTAIN -- OR KIND OF A LITTLE 6 BIT THROW AWAY. AND WE KNEW THAT THE ORIGINAL PROJECT AS 7 PROPOSED WASN’T -- IT WAS JUST NOT GOING TO WORK. SO WE REALLY 8 APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT -- I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT HELP FROM 9 FORMER MAYOR MARX AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT WAS DONE TO 10 COME UP WITH THE CURRENT PROJECT. AND I DO THINK, AS I THINK OUR 11 QUESTIONS SHOWED, THAT IT, YOU KNOW -- WE’VE REALLY GONE ABOUT AS 12 FAR AS WE CAN GO IN TERMS OF A GOOD PROJECT THAT MEETS A DIFFICULT 13 SITE, AND YET IT ALSO MEETS THE SPECIFIC PLAN’S REQUIREMENTS. 14 SO I JUST WANTED TO JUST MENTION BEFORE I FORGET THAT I’M 15 SUPPORTIVE OF THE THREE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS THAT WERE PROPOSED 16 THAT THE STAFF PUT INTO WRITING -- PROPOSED FROM THE CALIFORNIA 17 NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING CONDITION 93; THAT’S 18 THE BIKE LANE CONDITION. I’M SUPPORTIVE OF ADDING THE THREE 19 ADDITIONAL OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AS SUGGESTED AT THE END OF 20 THE STAFF REPORT, THE NEW -- THREE NEW ONES. 21 I KNOW WE ARE ASKED ABOUT THE BIKE LANE DETAIL WITH OR 22 WITHOUT LANDSCAPING, EVEN THOUGH I LIKE THE -- THAT’S THE 23 ADDITIONAL OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS, I LIKE THOSE ISSUES. I HAD A 24 09449 McDaniel Court Reporters 103 (805) 544-3633 CHANCE TO VERY QUICKLY READ IT WHILE IT WAS UP. THE BIKE LANE 1 WITHOUT LANDSCAPING IS WHERE I’M GOING. AND THAT’S BECAUSE EVEN 2 THOUGH I, OF COURSE, LOVE LANDSCAPING, I JUST THINK THAT YOU’RE 3 CROWDING BIKES AND CARS, AND THEY’RE PRETTY DARN CLOSE. AND EVEN 4 THOUGH CARS WILL BE GOING SLOWLY, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A BETTER IDEA 5 TO MAKE A LITTLE MORE SPACE FOR THE ACTUAL THINGS ON THE ROAD. SO 6 THAT’S WHY I AM -- BUT I’M NOT, LIKE, WED TO IT. SO I WOULD LIKE TO 7 HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES. 8 AND OTHER THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO STAFF A LONG 9 TIME, LIKE I THINK ALL OF US DID, ABOUT THESE CONCERNS REGARDING 10 WILD FIRES INTERFACE, AND URBAN LANDSCAPE INTERFACE, THE TRAFFIC, 11 YOU KNOW, ALL THE MITIGATIONS, YOU KNOW, AIR QUALITY, ALL THE 12 THINGS THAT WE’VE TOUCHED ON AND THAT WE READ ABOUT IN OUR VERY 13 EXTENSIVE STAFF REPORT. AND I -- AS I SAY, I HAVEN’T COME UP WITH 14 ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR TO CHANGE. SO RIGHT NOW, THAT’S WHERE I’M 15 AT. 16 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON. IT 17 SEEMS LIKE DUE TO THE AGE OF THE TENANTS IN THIS PROJECT, THAT A 18 MORE EXPANSIVE SIDEWALK MIGHT BE OF IMPORTANCE TO THAT 19 COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS PRIORITIZED IN 20 THE CONTEXT OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. JUST TO OFFER THAT 21 OUT THERE. I’M LOOKING FOR HANDS AND NOT SEEING ANY. COUNCIL 22 MEMBER PEASE? 23 MS. PEASE: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I’M GLAD TO SEE THIS PROJECT 24 09450 McDaniel Court Reporters 104 (805) 544-3633 MOVING FORWARD. I AM SUPPORTIVE. I THINK THAT THE, YOU KNOW -- 1 THAT IT IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR GENERAL PLAN. IT’S THE LAST OF THE -- 2 THESE THREE EXPANSION AREAS. IT DOES MAINTAIN OUR GREENBELT. IT 3 HAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF IMPROVEMENTS OVER KIND OF ALLOWED 4 COMBINATION. SO REDUCING THAT COMMERCIAL, MORE HOUSING, THAT 5 SPECIALIZED HOUSING FOR SENIORS TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN THAT 6 COMMUNITY. I THINK IT’S A REALLY WONDERFUL THING. I THINK THAT 7 THERE’S A LOT OF SUSTAINABILITY COMPONENTS. I APPRECIATE THE 8 COMMITMENT TO ALL ELECTRIC AND REDUCE -- OR EVEN NET ZERO CARBON 9 EMISSIONS AS IT GETS TO THAT POINT. AND OF COURSE, IT SUPPORTS THAT, 10 YOU KNOW, INCREASE OF HOUSING THAT WE’RE LOOKING FOR AND 11 SUSTAINABLE TRANSPORTATION. SO I HOPE WE KEEP THOSE THINGS UP. 12 AND I HEAR YOU, THE FOLKS WHO ARE AROUND THERE WHO ARE 13 CONCERNED ABOUT TRAFFIC. AND WE’RE JUST -- WE’RE IN A REALLY 14 AWKWARD MAYBE -- THAT’S NOT THE WORD. IT’S A TENSE -- A TENSION OF 15 TRANSITIONING AND KIND OF THE DEVELOPMENT, AND WHICH 16 INFRASTRUCTURES GET IN PLACE, AND THEN HAVING THE CONNECTIVITY 17 THAT’S JUST STARTING TO HAPPEN IN TERMS OF (INAUDIBLE) AND MEETINGS 18 TO MAKE THE, YOU KNOW -- THE ONGOING INVESTMENT IN THE BUS AND -- 19 SO THAT WE HAVE THE TRANSIT FREQUENCY THAT WE ALL WANT. 20 SO I THINK AS THIS ALL KIND OF SETTLES IN IT WILL -- IT WILL 21 HUM AGAIN. I THINK IT WILL FUNCTION REALLY WELL. AND YES, THERE’S 22 SOME REALLY -- THERE’S GOING TO BE SOME FRUSTRATION ALONG THE 23 WAY. I THINK THAT THERE’S BEEN A BUNCH OF MITIGATION THAT HAS BEEN 24 09451 McDaniel Court Reporters 105 (805) 544-3633 PUT IN PLACE. I’M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR KIND OF THE TIE INS TO BUCKLEY, 1 THAT PRADO ROAD WILL GO THROUGH SO THAT WE HAVE THE RELIEF 2 VALVES THAT ARE COMING. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE’LL CONTINUE TO STAY 3 IN CONVERSATION AS THAT OTHER -- THOSE CREEKSIDE PARCELS COME IN 4 AND JUST, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THE BEST OF THESE TRANSITIONS AS 5 WE CAN. AND OUR LONG TERM VISION IS FOR, YOU KNOW, A LOT MORE 6 MULTI-MODAL, A LOT LESS SINGLE CAR OWNERSHIP, SINGLE CAR 7 OCCUPANTS. AND THOSE WHO REALLY NEED A CAR STILL HAVE ACCESS TO 8 A CAR WITHOUT ALL THE CONGESTION. SO I THINK WE CAN MOVE 9 FORWARD. I DO SUPPORT THE OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS AND THE 10 ADDITIONAL ONES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON ALSO SUPPORTS, 11 ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS. I’M NOT GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THE 12 BIKE PATH. IT’S SO FAR DOWN, AND THERE’S GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT 13 PLAN, AND I’M HOPING THE PROFESSIONALS AND OUR ADVISORY BODIES 14 WILL WEIGH IN ON THAT. SO I DON’T THINK WE NEED TO -- I DON’T HAVE A 15 STRONG EITHER EXPERTISE OR OPINION TO WEIGH IN. I DO WANT TO, YOU 16 KNOW -- I THINK I THANKED STAFF UPFRONT, BUT I’LL THANK THEM AGAIN. 17 BUT ALSO OUR ADVISORY BODIES, IT’S A REALLY HEAVY LIFT FOR DOING 18 ALL THE THOROUGH VETTING ALONG THE WAY OVER THE YEARS. SO I’M 19 REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT, AND AS ALWAYS, GRATEFUL FOR THE 20 COMMUNITY AT LARGE. 21 I WOULD LIKE TO BIG PICTURE, PARKING LOT, ECONOMIC 22 DEVELOPMENT, BE THINKING OF HOW DO WE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW -- WHILE 23 WE HAVE ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, HOW DO WE MAKE, YOU 24 09452 McDaniel Court Reporters 106 (805) 544-3633 KNOW-- TRY TO CREATE THAT WIN-WIN SITUATION WITH LOCAL LABOR AND 1 THE TRAINING AND -- BECAUSE WE’VE SEEN SUCH SUCCESS AT THE WORK, 2 AND HAVING THOSE DOLLARS STAY LOCAL IS A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR OUR 3 CITY, FOR OUR COMMUNITY IN ITSELF. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN FOLD 4 IT INTO THE BIG PICTURE WORK PLAN AND HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT BUILD 5 OUR COMMUNITY, THINKING CREATIVELY ABOUT HOW TO CREATE THOSE 6 WIN-WINS WITHOUT THE BURDEN, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT IF THERE ARE 7 OTHERS WHO WANT TO PARKING -- PUT THAT IN THE PARKING LOT FOR 8 CONSIDERATION DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY. I THINK THAT COVERS IT FOR ME. 9 THANKS EVERYONE. I REALLY APPRECIATE AND LOOK FORWARD TO AN 10 IMPORTANT PROJECT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 11 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE. I’M IN FULL 12 SUPPORT OF PUTTING THAT IN THE PARKING LOT AS WELL. I’M LOOKING FOR 13 HANDS. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 14 MS. STEWART: I THINK A LOT OF WHAT I WAS PLANNING ON SAYING, 15 YOU KNOW, YOU BOTH HAVE TAKEN CARE OF. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, 16 COUNCIL PEASE AND CHRISTIANSON. I AM SO THANKFUL TO THE STAFF. 17 THIS HAS BEEN SUCH A HUGE PROJECT AND SO MUCH KNOWLEDGE THAT I 18 WAS REALLY CONCERNED WITH AS I WAS READING, YOU KNOW, THE 19 HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PAGES THINKING, AM I GOING TO BE ABLE TO 20 PROCESS ALL THIS, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE STAFF FOR ALWAYS 21 HELPING ME KIND OF GET THROUGH. I ALSO WANT TO THANK -- THANK YOU 22 TO THE APPLICANT FOR LOOKING AT THESE REALLY THOROUGH 23 ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF THE INPUT FROM 24 09453 McDaniel Court Reporters 107 (805) 544-3633 THE COMMUNITY. THERE’S SOME VERY SOLID SUPPORT FOR VILLAGIO AND 1 THE LONG TERM CONTINUING CARE FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND THERE’S 2 ALSO SOME VERY SERIOUS CONCERN AROUND THE TRANSPORTATION. AND I 3 DO APPRECIATE ALSO THINKING ABOUT -- OUR STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO 4 ALWAYS UPDATE AND LOOK AT WHAT’S GOING WELL, AND WHAT’S NOT 5 GOING WELL, AND HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO ADAPT. SO I APPRECIATE ALL 6 OF THE VERY INTENSE TRANSPORTATION ANALYSIS THAT LUKE AND THE 7 WHOLE TEAM HAVE GONE THROUGH. 8 I DO ALSO REALLY SUPPORT WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE 9 WAS SAYING AROUND IF WE CAN HELP AT ALL IN THE, YOU KNOW -- 10 CONNECTING THE DEVELOPERS WITH OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY 11 THAT CAN HELP HAVE MORE LOCAL JOBS. I THINK THIS IS VITAL. IT’S 12 ALWAYS BEEN IMPORTANT TO HAVE MORE LOCAL JOBS, AND I THINK DUE TO 13 COVID AND ECONOMIC RECOVERY IT’S ALL THE MORE -- IT’S GREATLY 14 IMPORTANT. AND I ALSO WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW MANY LOCAL 15 PEOPLE ARE ALREADY POTENTIALLY SIGNED UP FOR VILLAGIO. AND WE’LL 16 BE ABLE TO SEE A TURN AROUND, OR A TURN OVER OF HOUSING IN THE 17 COMMUNITY. AND I HOPE THAT THAT TURNOVER, THOUGH, STILL ENDS UP 18 STAYING A LITTLE BIT MORE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY 19 WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF KEEP THE -- THE 20 TRIPS SMALLER IN THE SENSE THAT PEOPLE COULD BE HOPEFULLY WORKING 21 NEAR THEIR HOUSING. 22 I LOVE THE PARK BEING ABLE TO KEEP THE HOUSING NOT GOING 23 UP INTO THE GREEN SPACE. I ALSO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT. AND AT 24 09454 McDaniel Court Reporters 108 (805) 544-3633 THE SAME TIME, I APPRECIATE HAVING THAT LITTLE BIT OF HOUSING, STILL 1 KEEPING THE EYE OVER THE PARK. WHEN I FIRST MET WITH JOHN MADONNA 2 AND THE RRM REPRESENTATIVE I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE 3 SAFETY OF THE INDIVIDUALS USING THAT PARK, ALSO AS WELL AS THE 4 SAFETY OF POTENTIAL FIRES DUE TO THAT’S ALREADY KIND OF AN AREA 5 WHERE THERE’S ENCAMPMENTS AND WARMING FIRES OR FOOD FIRES ARE 6 GOING TO BE A CONTINUAL CONCERN. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 7 I -- ONE THING THAT’S HARD AT TIMES TO ME AS BEING A CITY 8 COUNCIL, IS WE DON’T GET TO CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES GO INTO 9 LOCATIONS AS LONG AS THEY ARE FOLLOWING THE ZONING RULES, AND 10 PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD BUSINESS PLAN, THEN WE HAVE TO GO 11 WITH IT. WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HOTELS. AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVEN BEFORE 12 COVID, WE WERE NOT AT CAPACITY WITH OUR HOTELS. SO THAT DOES 13 CONCERN ME. THERE ARE HOTELS THAT ARE RIGHT AROUND THAT AREA. 14 BUT I’M GOING TO HAVE TO LEAVE IT UP TO THE OWNER AND KNOW THAT 15 THEY ARE DOING WHAT THEY FEEL IS BEST. LOVE THE ELECTRIC SHUTTLES, 16 BY THE WAY, AND THE ELECTRIC CHARGERS, AND THE BIKE HUBS. AND I 17 HOPE THAT AS OUR STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE PROJECT AND 18 CONSTRUCTION THAT WE KEEP IN MIND THE CURRENT BUSINESS 19 (INAUDIBLE). ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE CONSISTENTLY THAT DOES 20 NOT SEEM TO CHANGE IS -- ESPECIALLY SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AND 21 LOCAL OWNERS THAT CAN REALLY END UP SUFFERING WHEN LARGE 22 CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS HAPPEN. SO I REALLY HOPE THAT WE CAN THINK 23 OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO HELP OUR LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS. SO THAT’S 24 09455 McDaniel Court Reporters 109 (805) 544-3633 WHERE I’M AT RIGHT NOW. I DO ALSO SUPPORT THE THREE ADDITIONAL 1 OBSERVATION -- SORRY, I CAN’T THINK OF THE WORD RIGHT NOW -- THE 2 CREATIONAL CHANGES THAT WERE -- OR CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE 3 BROUGHT UP TO (INAUDIBLE). THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. AND 4 THAT’S WHAT I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW. 5 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER GOMEZ? 6 MR. GOMEZ: YEAH. THANKS. I’M SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT’S BEEN SAID 7 PRIOR. I WILL WEIGH IN ON THE BIKE PLAN SINCE I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO 8 WEIGH IN ON THAT AGAIN GIVEN THE REALITY OF MY TERM. 9 SO I REALLY ACTUALLY LIKE THE IDEA OF THE SHARED ROAD 10 FOR THE CARS THEMSELVES, ACTUALLY PLACING PRIORITY ON PEDESTRIAN 11 AND BIKES OVER CARS. I’M FROM A TRUE SHIFT IN PRIORITIES. I REALIZE IT 12 DOES MAKE FOR A CONCERN AROUND SAFETY. BUT WHEN PUT INTO 13 PRACTICE, AND YOU START TO ACTUALLY PRIORITIZE THE PEDESTRIANS AND 14 BICYCLES, THEN PERHAPS CARS WILL HAVE TO SHIFT THEIR BEHAVIOR AND 15 WE WILL BE SLOWER AROUND SUCH AREA SUCH AS THAT. 16 YES. I KNOW THAT’S HIGH HOPES, CARLYN. I SEE YOU GIGGLING 17 AWAY. AND THEN I DID WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THE WHOLE JOBS 18 REALITY, AND THIS IS NOT REALLY SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT PER SE, BUT 19 WE HAVE THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUALLY CREATE 20 JOBS, BUT AS WE KNOW FROM THE COUNTY, WE ARE THE JOB CENTER FOR 21 THE COUNTY. THIS JUST FURTHERS THE JOBS/HOUSING IMBALANCE THAT WE 22 HAVE. SO IF WE’RE CONTINUALLY CREATING JOBS BUT NOT CREATING 23 HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WORKFORCE, WE ONLY FURTHER THE 24 09456 McDaniel Court Reporters 110 (805) 544-3633 PROBLEM. AND THAT’S KIND OF A BIG PICTURE SCENARIO. OBVIOUSLY, WE 1 PUSH FOR HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD JOBS SO YOU CAN AFFORD THE HOUSING. 2 BUT AGAIN, IF YOU’RE CREATING, AGAIN, MORE PEOPLE WORKING HERE, 3 JUST BECAUSE THEY CAN AFFORD IT -- THAT SAME THING HAPPENED IN 4 SILICONE VALLEY. AND THE BASIC WORKFORCE, MEANING THE SERVICE 5 JOBS WERE STILL THE PRIMARY NUMBER OF JOBS CREATED, THEY STILL DO 6 NOT GET ANY GREATER AFFORDABILITY OUT OF (INAUDIBLE). NOT TO SAY 7 THAT WE CAN REALLY PREDICT THAT OR CREATE THAT, BUT IT’S SOMETHING 8 TO CERTAINLY KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE I’VE BEEN HEARING -- ESPECIALLY 9 AROUND THIS ELECTION CYCLE -- THAT WE REALLY NEED TO PUSH FOR 10 MORE JOBS HERE, BETTER JOBS HERE. BUT IT MAY NOT BE THE SOLUTION 11 THAT (INAUDIBLE) THINKING. AND (INAUDIBLE). 12 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU. THIS WAS A LOT. I HAD A MILLION 13 QUESTIONS. AND THANK YOU STAFF FOR BEING SO PROACTIVE AND 14 ANSWERING ALL OF THOSE REALLY THOROUGHLY AS WELL. I DON’T FEEL 15 LIKE THERE’S ALL THAT MUCH TO SAY, JUST TO REITERATE THE 16 IMPORTANCE, I THINK, OF THE CHILDCARE PIECE. SO HOPEFULLY, IN THE 17 END THAT THAT WILL COME TO FRUITION HERE IN THIS PROJECT. WITH 18 THAT, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? CARLYN? 19 MS. CHRISTIANSON: YES. I WILL GO AHEAD AND -- I WANTED TO ASK, 20 DO I NEED TO MAKE THEM SEPARATELY, OR IS IT -- CAN I MAKE IT ALL AT 21 ONCE, CHRISTINE? 22 MR. JOHNSON: YOU CAN MAKE THEM AT ONCE, CARLYN. I THINK, 23 CHRISTINE, IF SHE COMES ON, SHE CAN MAKE ANY CORRECTIONS, BUT I 24 09457 McDaniel Court Reporters 111 (805) 544-3633 THINK YOU CAN JUST BUNDLE IT ALL IN. I JUST WANT TO BE -- AND COUNCIL 1 MEMBER, IF YOU COULD JUST BE REALLY SPECIFIC SO WE’VE GOT IT ON THE 2 RECORD EXACTLY WHAT CHANGES AND CONDITIONS WE’RE MAKING. 3 MS. CHRISTIANSON: OKAY. SO I AM MOVING STAFF 4 RECOMMENDATION. I AM ADDING IN THE THREE FINDINGS -- ADDITIONAL 5 FINDINGS THAT WERE COMING FROM THE CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT 6 SOCIETY. AND I AM ADDING, YES, THOSE FINDINGS. IS THERE ANOTHER -- 7 YEAH. THOSE -- THAT FIND- -- SO THERE’S FOUR -- I GUESS THERE’S FOUR 8 FINDINGS. THE ADDITIONAL FINDINGS FROM THE CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANT 9 SOCIETY, YES, THOSE. I AM ADDING IN THE CONDITION NUMBER 93, WHICH IS 10 THE BIKE LANE CONDITION. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE -- OR ARE 11 PRETTY OPEN MINDED ABOUT WHICH CONFIGURATION YOU’D BE CHOOS- -- 12 AND I’M FINE WITH GOING WITH, YOU KNOW, BIKE COMMITTEE 13 RECOMMENDATION, OR I -- I LIKE AARON’S LOGIC ALSO. SO YOU KNOW, 14 THERE YOU GO. WE’RE NOT GOING TO DIRECT ON THAT ONE. AND THEN I’M 15 ALSO ADDING ON THE THREE ADDITIONAL OVERRIDING CONSIDERATIONS 16 THAT WERE SUGGESTED, YEAH, THOSE ONES RIGHT THERE. AND SO THAT’S 17 THE CHANGES I’M MAKING, OR ADDITIONS I’M MAKING. AND THAT’S IT. 18 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU. 19 MS. PEASE: I’LL SECOND. 20 MAYOR HARMON: THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE. CITY 21 CLERK? 22 MS. PURRINGTON: COUNCIL MEMBER CHRISTIANSON? 23 MS. CHRISTIANSON: YES. 24 09458 McDaniel Court Reporters 112 (805) 544-3633 MS. PURRINGTON: COUNCIL MEMBER PEASE? 1 MS. PEASE: YES. 2 MS. PURRINGTON: COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? 3 MS. STEWART: YES. 4 MS. PURRINGTON: VICE MAYOR GOMEZ? 5 MR. GOMEZ: YES. 6 MS. PURRINGTON: MAYOR HARMON? 7 MAYOR HARMON: YES. AND WITH THAT IT PASSES 5-0. THANK YOU 8 EVERYONE FOR THAT REALLY GREAT AT FAIRLY LONG CONVERSATION. 9 WITH THAT WE WILL MOVE ONTO OUR NEXT ITEM… 10 (END OF ITEM NUMBER NINE) 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 09459