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MINUTES
ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
TUESDAY, MAY 31, 1994-7:00 PM
CITY HALL.- COUNCIL CHAMBERS - 990 PALM STREET
SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA Draft Minutes
to be approved
ROLL CALL; at Council Meeting
Council Members °f 8-/6_9y
Present: Council Member Penny Rappa,Dave Romero,Vice-Mayor Allen
K. Settle and Mayor Peg Pinard
Absent: Council Member Bill Roalman
City Staff
Present: John Dunn, City Administrative Officer; Diane Gladwell, City
Clerk; Jeff Jorgensen, City Attomey; Mike McCluskey, Public
Works Director,Arnold Jonas,Community Development Director
PUBLIC HEARINGS
P.C.I. Evelyn Talmadge, 1400 Pismo SL, spoke against bicycle lanes on Johnson Avenue under
the bridge.
CONSENT AGENDA
Moved by Settle/Raooa to approve the Consent Agenda as recommended by the City Administrative
Officer, motion carried (4-0-1, Council Member Roalman absent).
C-1 COUNCIL MINUTES
Council considered the minutes of Tuesday, May 3, 1994 at 6:00 PM.
Moved by Settle/Rapga to waive oral reading and approve the minutes;motion carried (4-0-1, Council
Member Roalman absent).
C-2 SONIC CABLE FRANCHISE EXTENSION (File No. 143)
Council considered extending the franchise agreement with Sonic Cable Television through June 30,
1994.
Moved by Settle/Raooa to approve the extension; motion carried (4-0-1, Council Member Roalman
absent).
C-3 INTERIM PARK CONCEPT FOR EMERSON PARK (File No. 800)
Council considered an Interim Park Concept for Emerson Park as proposed by the residents of the
Emerson area and approved by the Parks and Recreation Commission.
Moved by Settle/Raooa to approve the Interim Concept; motion carried (4-0-1, Council Member
Roalman absent).
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT (File No. 463)
Council held a public hearing to consider an amendment to the Zoning Regulations to simplify
processing and change definitions, clarify wording and format, and make minor changes to
development standards (continued from 4/11/94 and 5/24/94).
Arnold Jonas. Community Development Director, reviewed the proposals, including a trial period to
Increase the number of children in daycare facilities.
Major Pinard declared the public hearing open.
Tom Kay. Representing Residents for Quality Neighborhoods, concurred with the recommendations,
and suggested changing °maintain° to °preserve" in the parking space requirements to avoid
misinterpretation.
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Settle/Raooa to introduce to print Ordinance No. 1265 adopting a negative declaration of
environmental impact, modifying the Zoning Regulations as introduced on April 11, 1994, with minor
changes to the daycare section and changing °maintain° to preserve° (San Luis Obispo Municipal
Code Section 17.16.060), and eliminating "moderate income" on page 5-28; motion carried (4-0-1,
Council Member Roalman absent).
2. BANNER POLICY (File No. 805)
Council held a public hearing to consider revising the banner policy to eliminate all banners at
Mission Plaza,provide a broader definition of events and limit banners to the announcement of events
only (continued from 4/19/94 and 5/24/94).
Michael McCluskey. Public Works Director, reviewed the alternatives and recommendation of staff.
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing open.
No one spoke for or against this item.
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing closed.
Moved by Raug_a/Settle to 1) adopt Resolution No. 8293 amending the policies and procedures for
Issuance of banner permits, and 2) direct staff to proceed with additional banner location on Marsh
and return design to Council for approval on the Consent Agenda; motion carried (3-1-1, Council
Member Romero voting no and Council Member Roalman absent).
3. ORCUTT ROAD SETBACK UNE AMENDMENT (File No. 537)
Council held a public hearing to consider adopting a revised setback line for Orcutt Road, between
Broad Street and the SPRR,and limiting vehicular access to two locations on the south side of Oram
Road, between Broad Street and the SPRR (continued from 4/19/94 and 5/24/94).
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Michael McCluskey. Public Works Director, reviewed issues and recommendations regarding the
cross-section, alignment, and access of the proposed street widening.
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing open.
Rob Strong. representing Marilyn Stickler, expressed their preference for an 84-foot arterial without
on-street parking and right-of-way issues.
Dodie Williams. San Luis Obispo, spoke against taking additional property and having a slightly
curved street
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing closed.
Council discussed alternatives and impacts.
Moved by Rome /Settle to direct staff to prepare an ordinance following the Planning Commission
recommendations; motion carried (4-0-1, Council Member Roalman absent).
9:00 p.m. Major Pinard declared a break.
9:10 p.m. Council reconvened, all Council Members present
COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS
C.LRA. Mayor Pinard reported on the skateboard park scheduled to open on June 17, 1994
with alternating roller-hockey teams.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. OPEN SPACE PLAN IMPLEMENTATION (File No. 462)
Council considered the Open Space Plan Implementation .
John Dunn, City Administrative Officer, reviewed the proposed process.
Moved by Romero/Ragoa to direct staff to solicit community interest,enlarged to include all potential
revenue programs in the Open Space Element;motion carried (3-1-1,Vice Mayor Settle voting no and
Council Member Roalman absent).
5. POWER BLOWER REGULATIONS (File No. 703)
Council considered giving final passage to an ordinance amending to the noise regulations and
restricting hours of operation of power blowers in residential and non-residential zones (continued
from 4/19/94, 5/3/94, and 5/24/94).
Arnold Jonas. Community Development Director, reviewed the history of the project
Council Member Penny Raooa stated that although she had missed the previous meetings, she had
listened to the tapes.
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Alan Friedman. San Luis Obispo,urged Council to ban all gas powered leaf blowers,stating concerns
for reparticulation of leaf matter, quality and level of noise, and air pollution concerns.
Moved by Settle/Pinard to accept the ordinance as recommended effective July 1st; motion was lost
(2-2-1, Council Members Rappa and Romero voting no, Council Member Roalman absent.
Moved by Settle/Pinard to direct staff to bring back when all Council is present; motion carried (4-0.1,
Council Member Roalman absent).
6. BICYCLE LICENSING (File No. 133)
Council considered discontinuing the licensing of bicycles.
Bill Statler. Director of Finance, reviewed the costs and benefits of the proposal.
Moved by Settle/Raopa to introduce to print Ordinance No. 1266 rescinding Chapter 10.72, Sections
10.72.090 and 10.72.110 of the Municipal Code which requires bicycles be licensed by the City
(continued from 5/24/94); motion carried (4-0-1, Council Member Roalman absent).
COMMUNICATIONS
COMMA. Jeff Jorgensen.City Attorney,reported the receipt of release and settlement of Boston
v. City of San Luis Obispo in the amount of $77,500 approved in closed session on 5/24/94.
COMM.2. AIR POLLUTION CONTROL BOARD
Council discussed City participation on the Air Pollution Control Board.
COMM.3. JOHNSON AVENUE BICYCLE LANES
Council considered a request by Vice Mayor Settle that discussion of the Johnson Avenue bike lanes
be continued until September of this year; no consensus reached.
10:15 PM there being no further business to come before the City Council, Mayor Pinard adjourned
the meeting to Monday, June 6, 1994 at 7:00 PM in the Council Chambers.
APPROVED BY COUNCIL
• Diane R. Gladweil, City Clerk
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ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
MONDAY, JUNE 6, 1994- 7:00 PM
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SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA to be approved
ROLL CALL: at Council meeting
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Council Members
Present: Council Member Penny Rappa, Dave Romero, Bill Roalman,
Vice-Mayor Allen K. Settle and Mayor Peg Pinard
Absent: None
City Staff
Present: John Dunn, City Administrative Officer; Diane Gladwell, City
Clerk; Jeff Jorgensen, City Attorney; Ken Hampian, Assistant
City Administrative Officer; Arnold Jonas, Community
Development Director,John Mandeville,Long Range Planning
Manager; Glenn Matteson, Association Planner
PUBLIC COMMENTS
P.C.I. Mayor Pinard asked for a moment of silence in memory of the 50th anniversary of D-Day.
COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS
C.LR.1. Mayor Pinard reported on the Mayor's Select Committee's meeting regarding the Air
Pollution Control District's recommended representation of three cities (North, Central and South
County)and three Board of Supervisors appointees. Recommendation will be presented to the Board
of Supervisors.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. LAND USE ELEMENT REVISIONS (File No. 462)
Council held a public hearing to consider revisions to the Land Use Element of the General Plan
(continued from 3/28/94, 4/5/94, 4/26/94, 5/3/94, 5/10/94, and 5/17/94).
Mayor Pinard declared the public hearing open.
Andrew Merriam, representing the Dalidio family, reviewed the proposal submitted by Vice Mayor
Settle and stated it met with the Dalidio's intent. He requested the land use map be updated to reflect
the current changes.
Bill Bird,developer of the commercial portion of the Dalidio property, stated 640 customers of J>C>
Penny had requested a new store, and requested.Council'give specific direction to staff.
Bill Toma. San Luis Obispo, reviewed letter requesting changes from the Chamber of Commerce.
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Martin Tangeman, representing Alex Madonna, stated the Froom Ranch design was 95% complete,
and requested changes to allow interim open space designation. He objected to the 4-to-1 open
space requirement on the Los Osos Valley Gap property as unworkable.
Michael Morris. 1304 Pacific, representing Allen&Yolanda Righettl, requested the urban reserve line
be moved Wallow the property to be planned at one time, the property be designated as residential .
expansion and open space, and questioned the prime agricultural soil designation.
Jean Heatheson. Righetti's granddaughter, objected to the prime agricultural soil designation as
IncorrecL
Jay Parsons. Righetti's step-grandchild, requested the entire property be shown inside the urban
reserve line, objected to the prime agricultural soil designation,and requested notice for proceedings
to review the prime agricultural soils designation.
Mayer Pinard closed the public hearing.
Council continued their review of the Land Use Element.
Moved by Settle/Roalman to amend section 1.12.1 to read, 'Overall Policy. Communication and
cooperation between the City and nearby government institutions is important and must be maintained
because changes in the number of workers, students and Inmates of the three major public
institutions near the City directly influence the City's economic base, land use, circulation and ability
to manage growth. The City should continue to work with Cuesta Col;lege and Cat Poly's approved
enrollment master plan targets as to their impacts on the City°; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to amend section 1.122 to read, °The City favors Cal Poly's approved
enrollment mast plan targets and these should not exceed campus and community resources. The
City favors additional on-campus housing, enhanced transit service,and other measures to minimize
Impacts of campus commuting and enrollment; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Pinard to adopt sections 1.123 and 1.124 amended as recommended by the
Environmental Quality Task Force(EQTF);motion was lost(2-3,Council Members Rappa,Romero and
Vice Mayor Settle voting no).
Moved by Rappa/Romero to adopt section 1.123 amended to read, "Policy: The City shall continue
to work with the California Men's Colony to avoid impacts of increased number of inmates and to
address resource constraints"; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt section 1.124 amended to read,"Policy: The City favors measures
such as course offerings at satellite campuses and enhanced transit service to avoid housing and
commuting impacts of increasing enrollments at Cuesta College", motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Rappa/Romero to adopt the Planning Commission's recommendation for section 1.13.1;
motion was lost (2-3, Council Member Roaiman, Vice Mayor Settle and Mayor Pinard voting no).
Moved by Pinard/Settle to adopt the recommendation of the EQTF for section 1.13.1; motion carried
(3-2, Council Members Rappa and Romero voting no).
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Moved by Settle/Rappa to adopt section 1.13.2 as recommended by Vice Mayor Settle (EQTF's
version,amended to omit"in addition to those of the planned capacity of incorporated areas");motion
carried (3-2, Council Member Roalman and Mayor Pinard voting no).
8:40 P.M. Mayor Pinard declared a recess.
9:00 P.M. Council reconvened; all Council Members present.
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt EQTF's version of section 1.13.3; motion carried (3-2, Council
Members Rappa and Romero voting no).
Moved by Settle/Romero to adopt section 1.13.4 as amended to read, °Development and Services:
Actual development in an annexed area may be approved only when the City can provide adequate
services for the annexed area as well as for existing development elsewhere within the City, except
as explained below and in parts 1.13.6 and 1.13.7. Actual development in a major annexation area
may proceed in accordance with the goals and policies described in this General Plan,as long as the
development of the annexation area does not result in the reduction of services or cause an increase
In the cost of such services to existing development elsewhere within the City. Water for development
in a major expansion area will be made available by any of the following or any reclaimed water and
water conservation. Uses of private well water may be considered on an interim basis until municipal
water becomes available if it demonstrates there is no loss of municipal water supply"; motion carried
(3-2, Mayor Pinard and Council Member Roalman voting no.)
After discussion, staff was directed to present a reformatted section 1.13 with simpler language
(general consent).
Moved by Roalman/Pinard to adopt section 1.14 as recommended by the EQTF; motion carried (3-2,
Council Members Rappa and Romero voting no).
Moved by Roalman/Pinard to reconsider the previous motion; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Roalman/Settle to adopt section 1.14 as recommended by the Planning Commission
amended to replace "should" with "shall"; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Raoua to adopt 1.15 as recommended by the Planning Commission; motion carried
Moved by SettleJPinard to adopt section 1.16 through 1.16.5 as recommended by the EQTF, omitting
the sentence, "The City will offer to host an initial session" from 1.16.2; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Pinard to adopt section 1.16.6 as proposed by Vice Mayor Settle (Section D to read,
"Voter approval for any significant change in designation from open space, agricultural or rural land
use to urban land uses."); motion carried (3-2, Council Members Rappa and Romero voting no).
Moved by Settle/Rappa to adopt section 1.16.7 as recommended bythe Planning Commission;motion
carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Rappa to adopt section 1.16.8 with the revised wording, 'The City will pursue a
memorandum of understanding between the City and County governments, pledging that neither
agency will approve a substantial amendment to its plan for San Luis Obispo's planning area without
carefully considering the comment and recommendation of the other. The key feature of the
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memorandum would be the City's acceptance of the planned amount of growth and the County's
agreement to not allow urban development within the planning area, but outside the City.'; motion
carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt section 1.17.1 and 1.17.1(a)as recommended by the EQTF;motion
carried (3-2, Council Member Rappa and Roalman voting no.)
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt 1.17.2 and 1.17.3; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Raooa to adopt section 1.17.4 as recommended by Vice Mayor Settle (°Cluster
DistrlcL The City should encourage the County to adopt a*mandatory cluster district"for appropriate
areas of the Greenbelt under County jurisdiction in order to implement Policies 1.7 and 1.9 and better
preserve the open space qualities of the land. The City recognized the County major and minor
clustering programs and TDC programs'; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Randa to adopt sections 1.18.1 through 1.18.3 amended to reflect participation of all
entities; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt 3.0.1 through 3.0.3 as recommended by the EQTF, amended to
add section 3.0.4 to read, °Compatible mixed uses in commercial zones should be encouraged°;
motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Pinard to adopt section 3.1.1 as recommended by the Planning Commission; motion
carried (5.0).
Moved by Settle/Raooa to adopt section 3.1.2 as recommended by Vice Mayor Settle (°Locations for
Regional Attractions: The City should focus its retailing with regional draw-in the locations of:
Downtown,the area around the intersection of Madonna Road and Highway 101 and the area around
101 and Los Osos Valley Road.1; motion carried (3-2, Mayor Pinard and Council Member Roalman
voting no).
Moved by Roalman/Settle to adopt 3.1.2(a)to read,°Lower Higuera Retail Area Enhancement The City
shall consider the potential for better utilization of the underutilized service-commercial district along
Higuera and Parker Streets and between Madonna, South and High Streets; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Roalman/Raopa to refer section 3.1.2(a)to the Planning Commission; motion carried (4-1,
Mayor Pinard voting no).
Moved by Raooa/Pinard to continue this Rem to June 14th; motion carried (5-0).
11:05 PM there being no further business to come before the City Council, Mayor Pinard adjourned
the meeting to Tuesday, June 7, 1994 at 7:00 PM.
APPROVED BY COUNCIL
Diane R. Gladwell, City Clerk
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WORKSHOP OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
MONDAY, JULY 18, 1994-7:00 P.M.
CITY/COUNTY LIBRARY COMMUNITY ROOM - 995 PALM STREET
SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA
This meeting was called Soley to facilitate compliance with the Brown Act; attendance by Council
Members is optional.
ROLL CALL
Council Members
Present: Council Member Penny Rappa,Dave Romero,and Bill Roaiman,
Absent: Vice Mayor Allen K. Settle and Mayor Peg Pinard
City Staff
Present: John Dunn, City Administrative Officer; Bill Statler, Finance
Director, Paul LeSage, Parks & Recreation Director, John
Mandeville, Long Range Planning Manager
WORKSHOP
COMMUNITY FORUM ON FINANCING OPEN SPACE PRESERVATION
A community forum was held to solicit thoughts and views from a wide range of community groups
and individuals on how to finance properties that are candidates for open space protection through
acquisition. Presentations were made by City staff on this topic and comments were made by
Individual forum participants. No discussions or deliberations were made by the Council at this forum
and no actions were taken.
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Moved by Settle/Raooa to adopt section 1.16.8 with the revised wording, "The City will pursue a
memorandum of.understanding between the City and County governments, pledging that neither
agency will approve a substantial amendment to its plan for San Luis Obispo's planning area without
carefully considering the comment and recommendation of the other. The key feature of the
memorandum would be the City's acceptance of the planned amount of growth and the County's
agreement to not allow urban development within the planning area, but outside the City."; motion
carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt section 1.17.1 and 1.17.1(a)as recommended by the EQTF;motion
carried (3-2, Council Members Rappa and ,t ;ot>;ero voting no.)
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt 1.17.2 and 1.17.3; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Rappa to adopt section 1.17.4 as recommended by Vice Mayor Settle ("Cluster
District. The City should encourage the County to adopt a"mandatory cluster district"for appropriate
areas of the Greenbelt under County jurisdiction in order to implement Policies 1.7 and 1.9 and better
preserve the open space qualities of the land. The City recognized the County major and minor
clustering programs and TDC programs"); motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Raaoa to adopt sections 1.18.1 through 1.18.3 amended to reflect participation of all
entities; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt 3.0.1 through 3.0.3 as recommended by the EQTF, amended to
add section 3.0.4 to read, °Compatible mixed uses in commercial zones should be encouraged.0;
motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Pinard to adopt section 3.1.1 as recommended by the Planning Commission;motion
carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Rappa to adopt section 3.1.2 as recommended by Vice Mayor Settle (°Locations for
Regional Attractions: The City should focus its retailing with regional draw in the locations of:
Downtown,the area around the intersection of Madonna Road and Highway 101 and the area around
101 and Los Osos Valley Road."); motion carried (3-2, Mayor Pinard and Council Member Roalman
voting no).
Moved by Roalman/Settle to adopt 3.1.2(a)to read,"Lower Higuera Retail Area Enhancement.The City
shall consider the potential for better utilization of the underutilized service-commercial district along
Higuera and Parker Streets and between Madonna, South and High Streets; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Roalman/Rapp to refer section 3.1.2(a)to the Planning Commission; motion carried (4-1,
Mayor Pinard voting no).
Moved by Rappa/Pinard to continue this item to June 14th; motion carried (5-0).
11:05 PM there being no further business to come before the City Council, Mayor Pinard adjourned
the meeting to Tuesday, June 7, 1994 at 7:00 PM.
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Martin Tangeman, representing Atex Madonna, stated the Froom Ranch design was 95% complete,
and requested changes to allow interim open space designation. He objected to the 440-1 open
space requirement on the Los Osos Valley Gap property as unworkable.
Michael Morris, 1304 Pacific, representing Allen&Yolanda Righetti, requested the urban reserve line
be moved to allow the property to be planned at one time, the property be designated as residential
expansion and open space, and questioned the prime agricultural soil designation.
Jean Heatheson. Righetti's granddaughter, objected to the prime agricultural soil designation as
incorrect.
Jay Parsons, Righetti s step-grandchild, requested the entire property be shown inside the urban
reserve line, objected to the prime agricultural soil designation, and requested notice for proceedings
to review the prime agricultural soils designation.
Mayor Pinard closed the public hearing.
Council continued their review of the Land Use Element.
Moved by Settle/Roalman to amend section 1.12.1 to read, "Overall Policy. Communication and
cooperation between the City and nearby government institutions is important and must be maintained
because changes in the number of workers, students and inmates of the three major public
institutions near the City directly influence the City's economic base, land use, circulation and ability
to manage growth. The City should continue to work with Cuesta College and Cal Poly's approved
enrollment master plan targets as to their impacts on the City"; motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to amend section 1.12.2 to read, "The City favors Cal Poly's approved
enrollment master plan targets and these should not exceed campus and community resources. The
City favors additional on-campus housing, enhanced transit service,and other measures to minimize
impacts of campus commuting and enrollment"; motion carried (5-0).
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Moved by Settle/Pinard to adopt sections 1.12.3 and 1.12.4 amended as recommended by the
Environmental Quality Task Force(EQTF);.motion was lost(2-3,Council Members Rappa,Romero and
RQBi`Ir18.11 voting no).
Moved by Rappa/Romero to adopt section 1.12.3 amended to read, "Policy: °T11a ity;supports
gmmuRrcgtloin and caoperattQrt between thi> Clty the :atifgril�a Med Colony. The City shall
continue to work with the California Men's Colony and the associated impacts of increased inmates
avoid resource constraints ;upwprd}ing.); motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Settle/Roalman to adopt section 1.12.4 amended to read,"Policy: The City favors measures
such as course offerings at satellite campuses and enhanced transit service to avoid housing and
commuting impacts of increasing enrollments at Cuesta College", motion carried (5-0).
Moved by Rappa/Romero to adopt the Planning Commission's recommendation for section 1.13.1;
motion was lost (2-3, Council Member Roalman, Vice Mayor Settle and Mayor Pinard voting no).