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DATE: January 10, 2014
TO: Mayor & Council
VIA: Katie Lichtig, City Manager
FROM: Derek Johnson, Community Development Director
SUBJECT: Land Use and Circulation Element Update —Task Force Motions with Meeting
Dates
The Task Force took action both through consensus and through motions as they reviewed and
edited the draft Land Use and Circulation Elements. The Council requested Task Force votes be
provided for context as the Council considers the draft elements. The attached document
updates the agenda correspondence previously provided with dates the motions were made
(highlighted after each item) so that minutes from the respective Task Force meeting may be
referenced where desired.
Please contact Kim Murry at kmurry @slocity.o with any questions.
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Table of Contents
Task Force Motions — Land Use Element .............. ............................... 3
Introductionand Goals .............................................................................................. ...................:........... 3
LandUse Designations ............................................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 1— Growth Management ............................................................................ ............................... 7
Chapter 2 — Conservation and Development of Residential Neighborhoods ........... ............................... 7
Chapter 3 — Commercial & Industrial Development Policies .................................... ............................... 9
Chapter4 — Downtown .............................................................................................. .............................11
Chapter 5 — Public & Cultural Facilities ...................................................................... .............................13
Chapter 6 — Resource Protection .... ......... — .... ........................ ....... ....... ............ ....................... ..........
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Chapter7 — Airport Area ........................................................................................... .............................15
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Chapter 8 — Special Focus Areas ................................................................................ .............................16
Chapter9 - Sustainability ......................................................................................... ............................... 20
Chapter 10 — Healthy Community ........................................................................... ...............................
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Task Force Motions — Circulation Element ......... ...............................
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Chapter 1: Introduction, Goals and Objectives ....................................................... ...............................
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Chapter2 — Traffic Reduction .................................................................................. ...............................
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Chapter 3 — Transit Service ...................................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 4 — Bicycle Transportation .... ..................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter5 - Walking ................................................................................................... .............................28
Chapter 6 — Multi -modal Circulation (replaces Chapter 8, Traffic Flow) ................. ...............................
28
Chapter 7 (Chapter 6 in TF version) — Traffic Management ...................................... .............................29
Chapter 8 (Chapter 7 in TF version) — Neighborhood Traffic Management ............ ...............................
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Chapter 9 — Street Network Changes ...................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 10 — Truck Transportation ......................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 11— Air Transportation .............................................................................. ...............................
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The Task Force made no changes to this section .................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 12 — Rail Transportation ......... ................................................................... ...............................
31
Chapter 13— Parking Management .......................................................................... ...............................
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Chapter 14 — Neighborhood Parking Management... .................................................. .........................
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The Task Force approved this section as proposed ................................................. ...............................
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Chapter15— Scenic Roadways ................................................................................. ...............................
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Chapter 16— Circ. Element Implementation ............................................................ ...............................
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Task Force Motions - Land Use Element
September 18, 2013 — December 10, 2013
Introduction and Goals
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the LUE
Introduction and Goals as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the
following existing wording for the last paragraph of the Introduction: "Policies in the Land
Use Element and the General Plan Land Use Diagram are designed to be consistent and
complementary with all other General Plan elements."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 11:2 vote.
Communitv Values
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to send this section
back to staff for rewriting including presenting the information in bullet points without
including conclusions.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Member Brown proposed this new goal: "These policies and programs shall serve as a
blueprint, guiding the City and its various entities in priority setting and resource allocation. It is
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understood that the availability of financial resources can and will affect the timing of
implementation, but shall not change the goals and intent."
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Whitney, to adopt this new goal
as part of the LUE update and place it as the second point under Approach to Planning in
the Introduction for Community's Goals.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
City Form —San Luis Obispo should:
Goetz suggested: "Create compact mixed use neighborhoods that locate housing, jobs,
recreation and other daily needs in close proximity to each other." Member Rademaker added
"maintain existing and...."
)i�- on motion by Member Goetz, and seconded by Member Crotser, to insert this language in
the City Form section.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 10:3 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Rademaker, to add anew bullet to
Community's Goals, Environment about encouraging energy efficiency and practices in the
City's urban design.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the
remainder of the section as amended and with the direction given to staff.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force member Rowley
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:1 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
following sections of the Introduction to the Land Use Element in the December 10, 2013,
Transmittal Memorandum as amended: Public Participation, Background to the 1994 Land
Use Element, Background to the 2014 Land Use Element, Community Values, Preamble to
the Land Use Element and San Luis Obispo's Vision.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Land Use Designations
Figure 1: County Land Use Designations Map (p.4) and Land Use Designations Outside the LUCE
Planning Sub -area (pp. 34 -36)
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to eliminate any
reference to density for this county open space land.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Juhnke, Rademaker, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino, Richardson,
Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Brown to define a maximum
density for each area, indicate that there is a presumption of no housing in open space, and
place UOS after UAG in the chart on pages 34 -36 of the December 10, 2013, Transmittal
Memo.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
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➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve as
presented the County Land Use Designations Map (p.4 of the Transmittal) and Land Use
Designations Outside the LUCE Planning Sub -area (pp. 34 -36 of the Transmittal) with the
amendments made in the prior motion.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Brown, seconded by Member Bremer, to support the
organization of land use designations into a table format as shown in the draft Land Use
Element.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
DATE: 11 -6 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Juhnke, seconded by Member Crotser to support the
density increase in Medium High Density Residential from 18 du /acre to 20 du /acre.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Saunders, Whitney
NOES:
None
RECUSED:
None
ABSENT:
Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
ABSTAIN: Task Force member Rowley
DATE: 11 -6 -2013
The motion passed on a 11:0 vote with one abstention.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Whitney to not
support minimum densities for Medium and High Density Residential land use designations.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: Committee Member Crotser
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
DATE: 11 -6 -2013
The motion passed on a 11:1 vote
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Chanter 1- Growth Manaeement
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Meyer, seconded by Member Bremer to delete Policy
1.4 (Jobs- Housing Relationship).
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
DATE: 11 -6 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Brown, seconded by Member Goetz to approve the
Growth Management Chapter with revisions and direction as noted.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
DATE: 11 -6 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Chapter 2 - Conservation and Development of Residential
NeiLyhborhoods
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Brown to revise the
introduction to read: The City shall preserve, protect, and enhance the City's neighborhoods
and strive to preserve and enhance their identity and promote a higher quality of life within
each neighborhood.
AYES: Committee Members Rowley, Meyer, Saunders, Crotser, Richardson, and Bremer
NOES: Committee Members Dandekar and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passed on a 6:2 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Rowley to put in
additional language to describe housing types, replace "vibrant" with "quality" and remove
next to last bullet on page 1 -52 that refers to network of facilities.
AYES: Committee Members Crotser, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: Committee Members Bremer, Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney, and Meyer
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion fails on a 3:5 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Dandekar, seconded by Member Bremer to put in
additional language to describe housing types and replace "vibrant" with "quality" but to
retain the bullet item referring to interconnectedness.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney, and Meyer.
NOES: Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT:Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke.
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passes on a 6:2 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Bremer to endorse
Policy 2.2.1 language as proposed in draft element.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney, and Meyer
NOES: Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT:Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passes on a 6:2 vote.
➢ On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Richardson to endorse
Policy 2.2.9 language as proposed in draft element with revisions to subsection I and E and
correction to citation in subsection H as discussed.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, and Meyer
NOES: Committee Members Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passes on a 5:3 vote.
➢ On motion by Committee Member Richardson, seconded by Committee Member Crotser to
support the new policy 2.4.2 with a minor revision to remove the word "significantly" on
line two of the policy.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, and Richardson
NOES: Committee Member Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke.
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passed on a 5:3 vote
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➢ On motion by Committee Member Richardson, seconded by Committee Member Crotser to
support the new policy 2.4.2 with a minor revision to remove the word "significantly" on
line two of the policy.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, and Richardson
NOES: Committee Member Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passed on a 5:3 vote.
➢ On motion by Committee Member Richardson, seconded by Committee Member Crotser to
support the Policy 2.5.2 as proposed in the legislative draft.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Saunders
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passed on a 6:1 vote (Saunders abstained).
➢ On motion by Committee Member Dandekar, seconded by Committee Member Crotser to
approve the Residential Neighborhood chapter with changes as noted throughout the Task
Force discussion.
AYES: Committee Members Rowley, Meyer, Saunders, Crotser, Richardson, Dandekar,
Whitney, and Bremer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker, and Juhnke
DATE: 11 -7 -2013
The motion passed on a 8:0 vote
Chapter 3 - Commercial & Industrial Development Policies
➢ On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Quaglino, to develop a program to
allow visitor - serving uses in office zones adjacent to commercial properties in the
Downtown and Monterey Street.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Multari, Quaglino, Rossi,
Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
DATE: 11 -14 -2013
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The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Whitney, seconded by Member Brown, to remove the reference to
"sea cruises" in 3.9.8.D.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Crotser, Dandekar, Quaglino, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
DATE: 11 -14 -2013
The motion passed on an 8:4 vote.
On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the Commercial
and Industrial Development section of the Land Use Element with the modifications agreed
to above.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
DATE: 11 -14 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve all of
the Commercial & Industrial Development changes, except Cl 4, listed on page 19 of the
Transmittal Memorandum for this meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve CI 4 as
presented on page 19 of the Transmittal Memorandum for this meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
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Chapter 4 - Downtown
➢ On motion by Member Multari, seconded by Member Crotser, to use language in 4.1 that
states, "Entertainment facilities such as nightclubs and theaters shall only be in the
Downtown."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Rowley, Saunders,
and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar and Quaglino
ABSTAINED: Task Force Member Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
DATE: 11 -14 -2013
The motion passed on a 9:2 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Quaglino, to delete the fourth bullet
point in 4.3 and have staff reformulate the sunlight guidelines, motion also to include
direction regarding word changes of "well -lit" and "interesting."
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 11 -20 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Juhnke, to approve the following
wording for 4.11: "Downtown development nearby publicly -owned gathering places shall
respect views of the hills. In other locations Downtown, views will be provided parallel to
the street right -of -way, at intersections where building separation naturally makes more
views available, and at upper -level viewing decks."
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, and
Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Meyer, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 11 -20 -2013
The motion passed on a 8:5 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Goetz, seconded by Member Juhnke, to add a bullet point to 4.14.4
about proximity of housing to convenient transit connections.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Rademaker,
Richardson, and Rossi,
NOES: Task Force Members Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 11 -20 -2013
The motion passed on a 9:4 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Multari, to make two changes to the
first paragraph of 4.14.4 Building Height: 1) replace "set back" with "step back ", 2) replace
"60 feet" with "50 feet ", 3) remove "vertical" from the first sentence, and 4) replace "shall
not obstruct" with "shall respect" in the second sentence.
AYES: Task Force Members, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and
Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Meyer, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 11 -20 -2013
The motion passed on a 7:6 vote.
On motion by Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Juhnke, to approve the Programs
section with the above noted changes.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 11 -20 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to put a period after
"late night drinking establishments" and delete the list of criteria in DT 7.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: Task Force Member Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:1 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Crotser, to replace "shall
consider" with "shall" in DT 8.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
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DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 11:2 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
remaining items in the Downtown section of the Transmittal Memorandum for this meeting
as presented with the exception of replacing "over" with "rather than" in DT 2.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve the
Safety - related Policies and Programs section on pages 3 -4 of the Transmittal Memorandum
for this meeting with these changes: 1) the Crime Prevention Through Environmental
Design program to read as suggested above, 2) the order of the bullets in the same program
be changed so that "Visibility into entry and access points on non - residential buildings" be
the first bullet, 3) that the next program will read "The City, working with the Downtown
Association, businesses, landlords and residents will develop emergency callboxes at
strategic locations in the Downtown" and 4) adding a program that states "The City,
working with the Downtown Association, Downtown businesses, and residents shall
develop a program to encourage lighted storefronts and street frontages throughout the
night."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chanter 5 - Public & Cultural Facilities
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Crotser, to change the wording of
5.8 to read "The City shall continue to encourage inclusion of public art in all projects as
appropriate."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
policies and programs in the Public and Cultural Facilities chapter as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chapter 6 - Resource Protection
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and second by Member Brown, to approve 6.3.1.1 Madonna
Inn Area as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve 6.2.7.1 and
6.2.7.K as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Multari
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the Resource
Protection chapter as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
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DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Quaglino to replace the words
"previously developed" with "urbanized" in the first paragraph and to delete A -D in the
existing policy.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve Resource
Protection programs as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chapter 7 - Airport Area
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to refer proposed
updates to policies 7.1. and 7.2, and the two added policies to the Council with the
statement as follows: The Task Force supports the City Council's efforts to have fact based
consideration of noise and safety zones and recommends the Council consider the
proposed airport policies and their legal ramifications.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Brown, to include the County
Airport Land Use Plan program with the previous four policies discussed earlier for
consideration at the City Council level.
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AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Rossi, to approve the rest of the
airport chapter as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chapter 8 - Special Focus Areas
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
language about the CalFire /Cal Poly property, North side of Foothill (Bishop Knoll), and the
Alrita properties as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
8.2.1 Foothill Boulevard /Santa Rosa Area
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the
section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:1 vote.
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Mid- Higuera, Madonna Inn Area, Sunset Drive -in Theatre Area, Pacific Beach Site. Calle Joaquin
Auto Sales Area, LOVR Creekside Area, Broad Street at Tank Farm Road Site
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Rossi, and seconded by Task Force Member Quaglino, to
approve the above sections as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Interim Open Space zoning
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to endorse the
approach to replace the Interim Open Space zoning with policy direction as part of Special
Focus areas for all the properties except the Alrita property and the property on the north
side of Foothill.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
Introduction
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the Special
Focus Areas introduction section as amended to include the addition of "environmental site
constraints" to A, and to split the last paragraph on page 1 -123 into two with the second
paragraph beginning, "The additional special planning areas... ".
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 10:2 vote.
Margarita Area Specific Plan
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Crotser, to revise the MASP
section to state, "The City shall consider the Margarita Area Specific Plan as potentially
appropriate for additional residential development."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
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NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
DALIDIO Chart
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Bremer, to change the chart to
allow 500 maximum units for housing, leave the commercial at 200,000 sq. ft. maximum,
change office to office /high tech, remove maximum acreage for parks, allow visitor serving
up to 150 rooms, change bullets to letters, change community serving to neighborhood
commercial, and provide clarifying language regarding Prado Road infrastructure.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -25 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
DALIDIO
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Whitney, that offsite mitigations
for the 50% open space not be allowed.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote.
DALIDIO Chart
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Richardson, to add a footnote to
the chart stating that in appropriate circumstances it may be acceptable to substitute not
more than ten percent of required open space off -site.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Quaglino, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Dandekar, Meyer, Multari, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders,
and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion failed on a 5:8 vote.
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DALIDIO Chart
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to add a footnote to
the chart stating that in appropriate circumstances it may be acceptable to substitute not
more than a small portion of on -site open space for offsite open space.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Quaglino, Rademaker, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Dandekar, Meyer, Multari, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion failed on a 6:7 vote.
UPPER MONTEREY
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Whitney, to approve
recommended wording changes for 8.2.2 and include safety to the list of items to be
addressed in a master plan, and inclusion of residents in adjoining areas as well as business
and property owners in developing the master plan for the area.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
UPPER MONTEREY
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to include evaluation of
Ordinance 1130 as part of the master plan and design guideline development.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Madonna on LOVR
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to delete the
percentages for 8.1.5 except the 50% for open space /agriculture and assign the designation
CN /CR.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown, Rossi and Saunders
DATE: 11 -26 4013
The motion passed on a 11:1 vote.
Avila Ranch
➢ On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Junke to add a bullet point to
indicate provision of a neighborhood park, to modify the Airport Area Specific Plan to either
exclude the area or designate it as a special planning area with the AASP, to remove the
percentages, make this area plan consistent with others by providing for a minimum 50%
for open space /agricultural but include an asterisk noting that up to one -third may be
provided offsite or through in lieu fees consistent with the Airport Specific Plan, open space
requirement can be reduced to 30% if RHNA housing affordability levels are met on -site,
shorten the first bullet point with a period after "affordability levels," add "open space" on
the first line of the third bullet.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: -I ask Force Memoer Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown, Rossi, Rowley and Saunders
DATE: 11 -26 -2013
The motion passed on a 11:0 vote.
Chapter 9 - Sustainability
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve this section
as amended, with the exception of the preamble and 9.6.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve adoption of
the preamble and 9.6 as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
DATE: 12 -4 -2013
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The motion passed on a 13:1 vote.
Chapter 10 - Healthy Community
➢ On motion by Member Meyer, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the Healthy
Community chapter including a new clean air policy and a program to develop a resource
guide to facilitate design that promotes healthy and active lifestyles.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:1 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve the
Review and Amendment and Implementation sections as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
DATE: 12 -5 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
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Task Force Motions - Circulation Element
September 18, 2013 — December 10, 2013
Chapter 1: Introduction, Goals and Objectives
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
following new goal in the Circulation Element: Introduction, Goals, and Objectives:
"Support the development and maintenance of a circulation system that balances the needs
of all circulation modes."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
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On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve
modification of the modal share splits to be 50% for vehicles, 10% for public transit, 20% for
bicycles and 20% for walking, car pools and other forms; and also to direct staff to provide
more data to the Planning Commission.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker,
Richardson, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar, Juhnke, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 9:5 vote.
Members Juhnke and Saunders stated that their no vote is based on frustration about not
having the data to back up the modal splits. Member Saunders stated that she regretted not
having the opportunity to vote just on the bicycle share.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve Figure 1
Modal Split Objectives as presented except for the changes to the modal split approved in
the last motion.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, and
Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar, Juhnke, Richardson, Rowley, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 8:5 vote.
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Chapter 2 - Traffic Reduction
➢ On motion by Committee Member Juhnke, seconded by Committee Member Rowley, to not
delete the first sentence in the Introduction on page 2 -12.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote.
➢ On motion by Committee Member Multari, seconded by Committee Member Brown, to
accept the recommended changes in wording for 2.0.1 Multi -level Programs.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 12 -2 vote.
➢ On motion by Committee Member Rowley, seconded by Committee Member Brown, to
support the recommended changes but to remove the wording "when appropriate" from
2.0.2 Flexible Work Schedules.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on an 11 -3 vote.
➢ On motion by Committee Member Multari, seconded by Committee Member Brown to
amend the draft language to "The City shall encourage employers within the city limits to
work with the County to encourage employers outside the City limits to participate in trip -
reduction programs, including commuter benefit options to reduce the amount of
commuters who drive alone in their vehicles.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
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NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote (Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
➢ On motion by Committee Member Rademaker, seconded by Committee Member Juhnke, to
accept the proposed wording for 2.0.4 Downtown Congestion with the addition of the
language "establish and" prior to the word "promote."
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 14 -0 vote (Crotser absent).
➢ On motion by Committee Member Juhnke, seconded by Committee Member Bremer, to
use the following language in 2.1.1: "The City shall participate and cooperate with county
agency efforts in establishing countywide trip- reduction programs."
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Members Rossi and Whitney
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 12 -0 vote (Rossi and Whitney abstained; Crotser absent).
➢ On motion by Committee Member Rowley, seconded by Committee Member Rademaker,
to accept the recommended deletion to the wording of 2.1.2 Average Vehicle Ridership.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney.
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Members Brown and Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 12 -0 vote (Brown and Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
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➢ On motion by Committee Member Quaglino, seconded by Committee Member Brown, to
approve recommended changes for 2.1.3 Trip Reduction.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote (Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
➢ On motion by Committee Member Multari, seconded by Committee Member Richardson,
to approve the following wording for 2.1.4 City Trip Reduction: The City shall maintain and,
where cost effective, improve its trip- reduction plan for City employees.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: Committee Member Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Brown
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
DATE: 9 -18 -2013
The motion passed on a 12 -1 vote (Brown abstained; Crotser absent).
➢ On motion by Comm. Member Saunders, seconded by Comm. Member Rademaker, to
retain the references to air quality in 2.0.5 with original language.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rossi, and Meyer
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion failed on a 5:10 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke to recommend language for 2.0.5 as follows: The City will
support programs that reduce traffic congestion and maintain air quality. If air quality
degrades below legal standards, or level of service (LOS) standards are exceeded, the City
will pursue mare stringent measures to achieve its transportation goals.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
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The motion passed on a 14:1 vote.
Chapter 3 - Transit Service
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Brown, and seconded by Task Force Member Quaglino,
to support the Transit Services section revisions as discussed with the exception of Program
3.1.3.
AYES: Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker,
Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -2 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Brown, and seconded by Task Force Member Crotser, to
support Program 3.1.3 as written.
AYES: Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker,
Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -2 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:1 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Brown, seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve 3.0.6 as
presented (with correction of letter assignments A -D under 3.0.6).
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
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Chapter 4 - Bicycle Transportation
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Quaglino, and seconded by Task Force Member Brown,
to support the Bicycle Transportation policies revisions as discussed.
AYES: Committee Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -2 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Task Force members revised Policy 4.0.3 in light of the discussions and agreed to add language
to 4.0.3: The City shall collaborate with SLO County to coordinate planning and development of
county bikeways to support a regional bike network and identify and acquire additional rights of
way as they become available.
➢ On motion by Task Force Member Quaglino, and seconded by Task Force Member
Rademaker, to approve the programs discussed and agreed upon in 4.1 and the revised
policy 4.0.3.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rowley,
Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -16 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
➢ On motion Member Rossi, seconded by Member Brown, to recommend deletion of 4.0.7
and the addition of the new program and the two new policies listed above.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
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Chapter 5 - Walking
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the policies
and programs in Section 5 as discussed and agreed upon.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rowley,
Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -16 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
As allowed by the American with Disabilities Act, the City shall consider existing
neighborhood character, including topography, street design, existing density, and
connectivity when identifying and prioritizing the installation of sidewalks.
➢ On motion by Member Saunders, seconded by Member Brown to use Member Multari's
language listed above for this new Policy.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
Chapter 6 -- Multi - modal Circulation (replaces Chapter 8, Traffic Flaw)
➢ On motion by Member Rowley, seconded by Member Juhnke, to change the minimum LOS
standard for bicycles from C to D and add this word "shall" before "maintain level of service
minimums" in Policy 6.0.B.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino,
Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: Brown and Meyer
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:2 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the footnote
language as amended for Table 6.0.1 as follows:
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Exceptions to minimum pedestrian LOS objectives & standards may apply when it is
determined that sidewalks are not consistent with neighborhood character, including
topography, street design, and existing density.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Juhnke, seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the Multimodal
Priorities section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Rossi
DATE: 10 -30 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Chapter 7 (Chapter 6 in T"F version) - Traffic Management
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to remove "desired"
where it appears in the Circulation Element description table.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rossi, to approve the Description
and Standards for Figure 2 with the following changes: retain the sentences struck out in
Note 1, add wording to indicate that the traffic counts are done when schools are in
session, correct the end of the last sentence in Note 1 to read "up to 15 %," delete "desired"
in the Circulation Element table, and define the street segments of Broad Street.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
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DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Chapter 8 (Chapter 7 in TT version) - Neighborhood Traffic Management
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve section 7 as
amended and with those sections referenced that will return for further discussion at a
future meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 10 -17 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Policy 8.1.2
➢ On motion by Member Richardson, and seconded by Member Dandekar, to delete the new
policy and replace it with the first sentence of the old language: "The City will undertake
measures to control traffic in residential areas where traffic speeds or volumes exceed
standards set by policy 5.2.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
DATE: 12 -10 -2013
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Chapter 9 - Street Network Changes
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Rowley, to approve Section 9
as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 10 -17 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
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Chapter 10 - Truck Transportation (Policies are numbered 9 in TF -LUCE
draft
➢ On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Rowley, to approve Section 9 as
amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 10 -17 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chapter 11- Air Transportation
The Task Force made no changes to this section.
Chapter 12 - Rail Transportation
➢ On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the Rail
Transportation section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino,
Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -16 -2013
The motion passed on an 11:1 vote.
Member Rowley stated she voted no because she does not believe the intent of the word
"support" in 10.0.2 is clear.
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Chapter 13- Parking Management
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
Parking Management section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rowley,
Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
DATE: 10 -16 -2013
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Chanter 14 - Neighborhood Parking Managemetit
The Task Force approved this section as proposed.
Chapter 1S- Scenic Roadways
➢ On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
Scenic Roadways as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 10 -17 -2013
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Chapter 16— Circ. Element Implementation
➢ On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
Circulation Element Implementation and Management section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley, Whitney, and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
DATE: 10 -17 -2013
The motion passed on a 10:3 vote.
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TF -LUCE MINUTES
September 18, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Hema Dandekar, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Mike Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson, Rob
Rossi, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson
Pierre Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Member Chuck Crotser
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Planner
Peggy Mandeville, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
Mike Multari was introduced as a new member of TF -LUCE.
Eric Meyer was re- elected chairperson.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Minutes of July 9, 2013, were approved as amended.
Kim Murry, Deputy Director of Community Development, presented the review guide
which explains the legend describing the edits being suggested for each policy or
program proposed for change.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
Committee Member Saunders recommended that the Task Force begin in an orderly
fashion with the legislative draft of the Land Use Element at the next meeting to be
followed by the circulation element. She noted that the documentation for proposed
changes in the Circulation Element draft is inadequate and that some language
changes were purported to address only style but the changes actually alter substance.
She questioned the changes being proposed in light of the priorities expressed by the
community through the survey to which approximately 2,200 residents responded. She
stated that staff should note conflicts between proposed draft Circulation Element
changes and the existing Land Use Element.
Committee Member Rowley asked that updated information from the Circulation
Element appendices be provided to assist in the Task Force review of the draft Element.
On motion by Committee Member Saunders, seconded by Committee Member Rowley,
that the Task Force begin in an orderly fashion with the legislative draft of the Land Use
Element at the next meeting to be followed by the Circulation Element.
Committee Member Dandekar presented a friendly amendment to allow discussion of
the Circulation Element at this meeting without making any decisions.
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Committee Members Saunders and Rowley accepted this friendly amendment.
AYES: Committee Members Dandekar, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Members Bremer, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Brown
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote (Brown abstained; Crotser absent).
On motion by Committee Member Bremer, seconded by Committee Member Goetz to
reconsider the motion, including the friendly amendment.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Qualino,
Rademaker, Richardson, and Rossi
NOES: Committee Members Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Members Dandekar and Juhnke
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 9 -3 vote (Dandekar and Juhnke abstained; Crotser absent).
Reconsideration of motion by Committee Member Saunders. seconded by Committee
Member Rowley and amended by Member Dandekar, that the Task Force begin in an
orderly fashion with the legislative draft of the Land Use Element at the next meeting to
be followed by the Circulation Element. Discussion of Circulation Element may be
conducted at tonight's meeting but no decisions will be made.
AYES: Committee Members Dandekar, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Members Bremer, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Brown
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote (Brown abstained; Crotser absent). Therefore, the Task
Force proceeded with their meeting.
DISCUSSION ITEMS: CIRCULATION ELEMENT
1. General Plan, Chapter 2, Circulation, Traffic Reduction Introduction, p. 2 -12
Public Comments:
Sharam Shariati, SLO, referenced a CNBC article which indicates the number of vehicle
miles driven nationwide has been declining. He stated that the upcoming generation
tends to move to cities with good public transportation and many households are going
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carless. He noted that HOV lanes should be off the list of transportation options
because they promote more driving and are not needed here.
Pete Schwartz, SLO, stated that the city could be much more ambitious in reducing
vehicle trips and that bike use would increase with better infrastructure. He suggested
using funds obtained from parking meters for alternative transportation modes which
should receive the same support as road building.
There were no further comments made from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee members discussed the introduction on page 2 -12 of the draft Element and
questioned why it was recommended to be deleted. Committee members expressed
support for the first sentence to remain in the element.
Committee Member Saunders expressed that deleting the introduction would create a
conflict between elements due to the existing preamble in the Land Use Element.
On motion by Committee Member Juhnke, seconded by Committee Member Rowley, to
not delete the first sentence in the Introduction on page 212.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote.
2. 2.0 Policies, 2.0.1 Multi -level Programs
Public Comments: There were no comments from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee Member Rowley noted the lack of data and stated that, as an example, it is
not known if parking demand has been reduced. She suggested passing on this item
until the data is provided.
On motion by Committee Member Multari, seconded by Committee Member Brown, to
accept the recommended changes in wording for 2.0.1 Multi -level Programs.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES:. Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 12 -2 vote.
3. 2.0 Policies, 2.0.2 Flexible Work Schedules
Public Comments: There were no comments from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee members clarified how and when this policy would be applied.
Committee members discussed if the wording "when appropriate" was needed or
implied that exceptions would be allowed.
On motion by Committee Member Rowley, seconded by Committee Member Brown, to
support the recommended chanr�es but to remove the wording "when appropriate" from
2.0.2 Flexible Work Schedules.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Committee Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on an 11 -3 vote.
4. 2.0 Policies, 2.0.3 Work -based T"°^ ReduGtlen Commuter Benefits Options
Public Comments: There were no comments from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee members discussed commuter benefits programs and trip reduction
concepts.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that the policy was reworded to
address changes in state law that affect trip- reduction programs and that commuter
benefit options are allowed and are meant to encourage employers to participate in
programs to achieve this goal.
Committee Member Meyer indicated that the language that noting three specific
employers was too limited.
Committee Member Rademaker suggested changing the language to "employers
outside the city limits."
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Committee Member Rossi stated that he does not think trip reduction programs work.
He stated that good land use planning will be more effective than these types of
policies.
Committee Member Multari shared a local example of Cal Poly where, despite
increased enrollment, trips have declined.
Committee Member Rowley noted that trip reductions on campus do not mean fewer
students are using cars. They park in nearby neighborhoods without Parking Districts
and then bike or walk the rest of the way to campus.
On motion -by Committee Member Multari seconded by Committee Member Brown to
amend the draft language to "The City shall encourage employers within the cif limits
to work with the County to encourage employers outside the City limits to participate in
trip-reduction ro rams including commuter benefit options to reduce the amount of
commuters who drive alone in their vehicles.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote (Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
5. 2.0 Policies, 2.0.4: Downtown Congestion
Public Comments: There were no comments from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee Member Saunders noted that tourist miles are not being counted.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that there is not a way to distinguish
tourist miles from commuter miles without an origin- destination model.
Committee Member Meyer stated that congestion downtown is not wanted but that
congestion efforts there should not be at the expense of residential areas.
Committee Member Rademaker stated that the big issue for downtown is to educate
people as to options.
Committee Member Saunders stated that other options should not be precluded.
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On motion by Committee Member Rademaker, seconded by Committee Member
Juhnke, to accept the proposed wording for 2.0.4 Downtown Congestion with the
addiflon of the language "establish and" prior to the ward "promote."
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 14 -0 vote ( Crotser absent).
6. 2.0 Policies, 2.0.5: Long -term Measures
Public Comments: There were no comments from the public.
Committee Comments:
Committee members asked for clarification to support proposed language deletions and
edits.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that references to trip reduction
programs were changed due to changes in state law but that some follow up is required.
Committee Member Multari noted that there may be circumstances in which the City
wants a lower Level of Service to encourage use of other modes of transportation. He
also noted that the air quality section of this policy did not seem to fit with the rest of the
discussion.
Committee Member Rossi stated that air quality requirements should apply to everyone.
Committee Member Bremer stated that he did not interpret this as strictly related to
work; instead, it is a general provision about trip reduction, including non -work related
trips. This may have an impact on land uses and their location.
Committee Member Saunders stated proposed changes to Levels of Service policies
conflict with the Land Use Element vision statement on page 1 -13 (the City should
preserve the relatively high levels of service) and the Land Use Element growth
management objectives on page 1 -18 (The City shall manage its growth so that the
relatively high level of services enjoyed by City residents is maintained or enhanced).
Committee Member Multari stated that Level of Service is a technical expression about
the amount of congestion on a specific street and is not in conflict with the more general
statement regarding high quality services.
Committee Member Rowley stated that, when the Level of Service for a particular
roadway is exceeded, drivers will cut through residential neighborhoods, like the cut-
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through traffic experienced on Oceanaire and Buchon; and, where congestion is high,
air quality is impacted and that, by not expanding congested roads and managing
growth, air quality is degraded.
Committee Member Rossi stated that level of service is not equivalent to quality of life.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that staff will bring this one back to
the Committee.
7. 2.0 Policies, 2.1.1: Agency Cooperation
Committee members discussed the intent of this policy and working with agencies to
accomplish trip- reduction programs.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that the City has been working with
businesses in town only to find out from tenants that they are unaware of programs.
Chairperson Meyer stated that bike racks should be located in the most prominent
places and that assigning restrictive conditions may not solve problems.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that there are measurable ways to
look at what is beneficial and take into consideration employers and the cultures that
they have.
Chairperson Meyer noted that the City should be as responsive as private industry in
putting in bicycle infrastructure.
On motion by Committee Member Juhnke, seconded by Committee Member Bremer, to
use the following language in 2,1,1: "The City shall participate and cooperate with
county agency efforts in establishing countywide trip - reduction programs."
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Members Rossi and Whitney
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 12 -0 vote (Rossi and Whitney abstained; Crotser absent).
8. 2.0 Policies, 2.1.2: Average Vehicle Ridership
Committee Comments:
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville noted the difficulty and cost associated with
collecting Countywide information regarding average ridership in cars.
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Committee Member Multari stated that we know the number of rides but not the number
of people in those vehicles.
On motion by Committee Member Rowley, seconded by Committee Member
Rademaker, to accept the recommended deletion to the wording of 2.1.2 Average
Vehicle Ridership.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney.
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Members Brown and Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 12 -0 vote (Brown and Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
9. 2.0 Policies, 2.1.3 Trip Reduction and 2.1.4 City Trip Reduction
On motion by Committee _Member Quaglino, seconded by Committee Member Brawn,
to aoorove recommended chanaes for both 2.1.3 and 2.1.4.
Committee Member Rowley disagreed with 2.1.4 but agreed with 2.1.3. and asked for
the policies to be considered separately.
Committee Members Quaglino and Brown agreed to consider 2.1.3 and 2.1.4
separately.
On motion by Committee Member Quaglino, seconded by Committee Member Brown,
to approve recommended changes for 2.1.3 Trip Reduction.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Rossi
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13 -0 vote (Rossi abstained; Crotser absent).
On motion by Committee Member Multari, seconded by Committee Member
Richardson to approve the following wordin for 2.1.4 City Trip Reduction: The City
shall maintain and, where cost effective, improve its trip- reduction plan for City
employees.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyers, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: Committee Member Whitney
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RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Brown
ABSENT: Committee Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 12 -1 vote (Brown abstained; Crotser absent).
General Discussion About the Process:
Community Development Director Johnson asked Task Force Members how the
process is working for them and suggested that straw votes be taken on policy
language before motions on sections.
Committee Member Rowley stated that she had expected fewer changes to policy
language and that she is not comfortable with going faster.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that staff can do a better job in
addressing the reasons why language has been adjusted.
Committee Member Juhnke expressed concern about the statement that changes were
about style when they were actually about substance. Committee Members Saunders,
Meyer, and Rossi agreed.
Committee Member Rowley stated that the process would go faster if the Task Force
started with the Circulation Element and did the work itself without the consultant
comments.
Committee members expressed concerns that the consultants had not delivered the
legislative drafts when committed, and it is affecting the process.
Committee Member Rowley asked if there was the possibility of an extension on time on
the grant.
Community Development Director Johnson said there was no possibility to extend this
work because the deadline is in the spring. He noted that the Task Force still has plenty
of time and that staff will work with the consultants to provide more responsive work.
Committee Member Juhnke suggested that members read Richard Smith's letter.
Community Development Director Johnson noted that this will be an interactive process.
He stated that if the Task Force wants to halt work until the draft Land Use Element is
ready, staff will adjust the schedule.
Committee Member Meyer asked if there was a possibility of starting the meeting earlier
or adding meetings.
Committee Member Rowley stated that she would prefer to add meetings.
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Sharam Shariati, SLO, suggested that the City host experts from cities like Boulder and
Davis and adopt policies from those cities.
Committee Member Rossi stated that looking at best practices is a good idea.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that staff are the project managers
and must do a better job of explaining proposed policy language changes. Staff will
follow up with proposed dates for added meetings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: October 2, 2013, 6 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:36 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by.
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
October 2, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Hema Dandekar, Jon
Goetz, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson, Sandra Rowley,
Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre Rademaker, and
Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Dave Juhnke, and Rob Rossi
Staff: Director of Community Development Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Planner
Peggy Mandeville, Associate Planner James David, and Recording
Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Minutes of September 18, 2013, were approved as amended.
On motion by Committee Member Rademaker, seconded by Committee Member
Brown, to extend the meeting to 9 p.m.
AYES: Members Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker,
Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Member Crotser
ABSENT: Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
Kimberley Wormley, SLO, stated that she is representing the "busy mom" population
and that she supports safer bicycle routes to Laguna Middle School and San Luis
Obispo High School.
Pete Schwartz, SLO, stated that he supports removing the recently added wording
"when economically feasible or reasonable." He noted that investment in improvements
always results in a negative cash flow. He supported the funding of a bicycle advocate.
Neil Oswald, SLO, stated that he commutes to Pacheco Elementary School every day
and that he likes riding bicycles which he has done since he was three years old. He
stated that bicycle riding can be dangerous and that his mother was hospitalized after
being hit by a car while riding her bike.
Sharam Shariati, SLO, stated that the middle class cannot afford housing in the City and
that there is a large demographic gap in the City between students and retired
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residents. He supported the City requiring that home buyers live for at least one year in
the home they purchased to prevent investors from dominating the housing market.
There were no further comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Circulation Element — Legislative Draft Review by Principal Transportation
Planner Mandeville
The Task Force determined that they would discuss each policy, come to a "straw vote"
consensus by show of hands regarding proposed language changes, and then follow
with official votes for each section being reviewed.
The discussion began where the Task Force left off from the last meeting. Program
2.1.2: Large Employers. Peggy Mandeville, Principal Transportation Planner indicated
that this program will be brought back to the Task Force at a future date due to the need
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Section 3: Transit Service:
Task Force members discussed whether measurable performance standards should be
included in the General Plan. Staff member Mandeville indicated that as a policy
document, the General Plan sets the desired outcomes but implementation happens
through other methods: the Short Range Transit Plan or the Bicycle Transportation
Plan for example. If performance measures or details of implementation are included in
the General Plan, then a General Plan amendment is required any time changes to
implementation are desired.
3.0.2 City Bus Service:
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.0.2: The City shall improve and expand city bus service to make the
system more convenient and accessible for everyone. Transit services owned and
operated by the City shall endeavor to maintain and improve all system -side transit
standards identified in the City's Short Range Transit Plan.
3.0.3 Paratransit Service:
Task Force members discussed whether the policy should include both public
transportation providers and private organizations that offer transit services. There was
a discussion regarding "should" versus "shall" and what the City's role is in requiring or
supporting services provided by others.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that private organizations are
providing this service now and the City is just encouraging them to continue.
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Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.0.3: The City shall continue to support paratransit service for the elderly
and disabled persons provided by public and private transportation providers.
3.0.4 Campus Service:
Task Force members discussed whether wording should be expanded to include
entities other than just Cal Poly and Cuesta.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville observed that the policy was focused on
campus service but could have more general wording to include other schools.
Kimberley Wormley, SLO, suggested the policy apply to all schools.
Task Force members observed that it is important to name Cuesta due to the large
number of students who commute to the college.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.0.4: The City shall continue to work with Cal Poly to maintain and expand
the free fare subsidy program for campus affiliates. The City shall encourage Cuesta
College and other schools to establish similar programs.
3.0.5: Unmet Transit Needs:
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.0.5: The City shall work with SLOCOG to identify and address Unmet
Transit Needs.
3.0.6 Service Standards:
Member Multari asked if it is possible to note things /language that is taken out so that
the Committee could later think about putting them back in as goals.
Task Force members discussed whether the items listed under 3.0.6 do not support the
intent of the policy to ensure that transit is accessible.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that this section will be brought back
to the Task Force after further review.
3.0.7 Transit Service Access:
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.0.7: New development shall be designed to facilitate access to transit
service.
Programs
3.1.1 Transit Plans:
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Task Force members clarified intent of the program and whether "safe routes to school'
should be addressed here.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that the school district has changed
transit for students and, therefore, the City will have to look at making changes to the
implementation plans.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.1.1: The City shall continue to implement the short -range Transit Plan (5-
year time frame) and coordinate with SLOCOG on implementing the long -range Transit
Plan (20 year time frame).
3.1.2 Employee Transit Passes:
Task Force members discussed what "bulk rate" means, and indicated a desire to see
the same incentive offered to schools as to employers.
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shall make available bulk rate transit passes to employers and schools.
3.1.3 Downtown Trolley
Task Force members discussed the users of the trolley, its financial support, who it
benefits, and whether different wording is appropriate to reflect resource constraints by
changing the "shall' to a "should" or including "as resources permit."
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members, with the exception of
Member Rowley supported the existing wording for program 3.1.3: The City will
maintain a downtown trolley service as part of its overall transit system.
3.1.4 Commuter Bus Service
Task Force members discussed the intent that transit is available to larger employers
with commuting employees and considered whether specifically calling out only two
employers appeared to limit the program.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.1.4: The City shall encourage the San Luis Obispo Regional Transit
Authority (SLORTA) to maintain and expand commuter bus service to and from the City
of San Luis Obispo during peak demand periods consistent with the Short-Range
Transit Plan and Long -Range Transit Plan.
Kimberley Wormley, SLO, suggested using "expand and improve."
The Committee agreed to maintain their consensus above on 3.1.4.
3.1.5 Transit Service Evaluation
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Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.1.5: The City shall coordinate with the San Luis Obispo Regional Transit
Authority (SLORTA) to evaluate the cost effectiveness of consolidated service.
3.1.6 Marketing and Promotion
Task Force members discussed the need to provide different language to indicate
multiple audiences for marketing and promotion. Members observed that the word
"comprehensive" appears to cover the need.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 3.1.6: The City shall develop a comprehensive program to reach individual
target audiences.
New Policy:
Task Force members discussed the long -held vision expressed through a variety of City
documents to support a transit center in the downtown.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported a new program
3.1.7: The City shall work with other agencies to develop a consolidated regional transit
center downtown.
Task Force members took a vote on the Transit Section. Task Force Member Rowley
requested how she might indicate her disagreement with one item. The Task Force
members voted as follows:
On motion by Task Force Member Brown, and seconded by Task Force Member
Quaglino, to support the Transit Services section revisions as discussed with the
exception of Program 3.1.3.
AYES: Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
On motion by Task Force Member Browns and seconded by Task Force Member
Crotser, to support Program 3.1.3 as written.
AYES: Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
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The motion passed on an 11:1 vote.
4.0.1 Bicycle Use
Task Force members discussed whether some of the proposed wording appears to be
more appropriate as a goal statement "making cycling an integral part of daily life..."
Community Development Director Johnson suggested changing the wording to "The
City shall expand the bicycle network and provide end -of -trip facilities to encourage
bicycle use and make bicycling safer and pleasant."
Anne Wyatt, SLO, stated that she liked the wording but wanted the language to include
pleasantness and also that "safe" was more appropriate than "safer."
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 4.0.1: The City shall expand the bicycle network and provide end -of -trip
facilities to encourage bicycle use and make cycling safe and convenient. NOTE. This
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4.0.2 Campus Trips
Task Force members discussed limiting the policy to Cal Poly and discussed the ability
to track performance. A recommendation was proposed to change the word "area" and
in favor of "local."
Dwayne Morgan, SLO, supported the creation of a bicycle coordinator. He noted that
some policies are redundant.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 4.0.2: The City shall encourage the use of bicycles by students and staff
travelling to local educational facilities.
4.0.3 Continuous Network
Task Force Member Rowley suggested that "in conjunction with stakeholders" be
inserted at the beginning before the word "complete." Task Force members discussed
that it is assumed that all City efforts involve stakeholders and that this language could
be added to all other sections.
Task Force Member Meyer supported the inclusion of a funding mechanism in a
separate policy due to his concern about how long it will take to implement the bike
plan.
Task Force Member Rowley supported adding "stakeholders" to all the other sections.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 4.0.3: The City shall complete a network of bikeways and related facilities as
specified in the Bicycle Transportation Plan.
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4.0.4 New Development
Task Force members discussed the wording of this policy and whether location of
development would influence how it was applied.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changes in
wording in 4.0.4: The City shall require that new development provide bikeways, secure
bicycle storage, parking facilities, and showers consistent with City plans and
development standards. When evaluating transportation impacts of new development,
the City shall use Multimodal Level of Service standards.
4.0.5 Bikeway Design
Task Force members discussed wording and intent to encourage bike use by making it
safe, convenient, enjoyable, and easier.
A Task Force member stated that 4.0.1 should be changed to the same wording.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, stated that she preferred "make" rather than "improve."
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changing the
title to read, Bikeway Design and Maintenance and changes in wording in 4.0.5: The
City shall design and maintain bikeways to make bicycling safe, convenient, and
enjoyable." All members also agreed to changing 4.0.1 to use this same language: `to
make bicycling safe, convenient and enjoyable."
4.0.6 Bikeway Development
Task Force members clarified when road improvements would trigger bikeway
development.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported changing the
title to read, Bikeway Development with Road Improvements and changes in wording in
4.0.6: The City shall construct bike facilities as designated in the Bicycle Transportation
Plan when... Members also agreed to delete part C.
4.0.7 Arterial Streets
Task Force Member Multari stated that 4.0.7 is an anachronism that says nothing.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported deleting 4.0.7.
New Policy: Education and Safety
Task Force members discussed whether the wording should be simpler and considered
broadening the language while acknowledging that having General Plan policy support
is important when funding is sought.
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Task Force Member Whitney stated that she wants to keep "motorists" in.
Task Force Member Multari suggested using "cyclists and motorists" and adding "The
City shall" at the beginning.
Task Force Members Saunders and Meyer supported keeping the reference to "youth."
Task Force Member Rowley suggested using "The City shall support education and
safety programs aimed at youth, adult cyclists and motorists."
Task Force Member Crotser stated that he did not support that because the policy
should identify exactly who the programs are for.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported new policy
4.0.8 Education and Safety. The City shall support education and safety programs
aimed at youth, adult cyclists and motorists.
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Task Force members discussed the need to reflect a commitment to implementing the
Bicycle Transportation Plan and whether having a Bicycle Coordinator is the way to
accomplish this.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, stated that she feels strongly about having a policy with some teeth
and supports having a full -time Public Works employee designated as a bicycle
coordinator.
Task Force members clarified the tasks assigned to a bike coordinator and staff
provided input that one function is to seek grant funds to implement the bike plan.
Task Force Member Meyer stated that the City needs to commit funding and a new
policy for bicycle transportation funding is needed if the City wants to get to twenty
percent mode share.
Task Force Member Rowley stated she does not support a new policy for funding.
Task Force Member Multari stated he is very sympathetic but will not support dictating
how much funding is assigned to one aspect of the City's on -going commitments.
Task Force members discussed the idea of a bike coordinator, whether it should be full
time, whether the policy should be worded with "should" versus "shall ", and whether
assigning a person was necessary to achieve implementation of the bike plan.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote and Task Force members supported new policy
4.0.9 Bicycle Transportation Plan Implementation: The City shall support allocation of
staff and resources to coordinate and implement bicycle transportation policies and
programs.
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New Policy
Task Force Member Meyer suggested developing a policy that bike parking shall
displace automobile parking rather than pedestrian walkways.
Task Force members provided input regarding nightly street sweeping in the downtown
to be considered when replacing automobile parking with bike racks; making bike
parking convenient, and whether it was appropriate to replace some off - street parking.
Task Force Member Saunders observed that consequences for businesses should be
considered when eliminating automobile parking.
Community Development Director Johnson stated it is important to consider what
problem you are trying to solve which, in this case, is trying to have bike parking not
impede pedestrian pathways.
Chair Meyer called for a straw vote. Task Force members supported new policy 4.0.10
Bike Parking: The City shall facilitate development of conveniently- located bike parking
so as not to impede pedestrian walkways.
The Task Force took a vote on the Bicycle Policies Section.
On motion by Task Force Member Quaglino and seconded by Task Force Member
Brown, to support the Bicycle Transportation policies revisions as discussed.
AYES: Committee Members Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Bremer, Juhnke, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Task Force Member Whitney stated that she is not representing the League of Women
Voters at the TF -LUCE meetings as stated in a New Times article titled Winners and
L UCErs.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: OCTOBER 16, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:56 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
October 16, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Sandra Rowley, Carla
Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre Rademaker, and
Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Hemalata Dandekar, Chris Richardson, and Rob
Rossi
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Planner
Peggy Mandeville, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Minutes of October 2, 2013, were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Pete Schwartz, SLO, strongly supported making the funding for bicycle transportation
follow the goals.
Lea Brooks, SLO, stated that enforcement of amenities such as bike lockers is lacking.
There were no further comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
1. Circulation Element — Legislative Draft Review by Principal Transportation
Planner Mandeville
The discussion began where the Task Force left off from the last meeting.
4.1.1 Incentives
Task Force members discussed whether to restrict incentives to only Cal Poly and
Cuesta College or to include other educational institutions and what wording would
indicate that the City is serious about taking the lead in developing bicycle pathways.
After discussion, Task Force members agreed on the following wording for Program
4.1.1 and to move the Program to Section 2 Traffic Reduction:
The City shall work with Cal Poly, Cuesta College and other educational institutions to
provide incentives to all students, faculty and staff to use alternative forms of
transportation.
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To revise language in Policy 4.0.3 to state, The City shall complete a network of
Bikeways and related facilities as specified in the Bicycle Transportation Plan and
identify and acquire right of way to complete the network.
4.1.2 Bicycle Transportation Plan
After discussion, Task Force members agreed on the following wording for 4.1.2:
The City shall maintain and regularly update its Bicycle Transportation Plan as needed
to reflect changes in state law and /or future conditions consistent with the objectives,
policies, and standards of this Circulation Element. Future revisions to the Bicycle
Transportation Plan shall consider safe routes to school.
4.1.3 Campus Coordination
After suggestions from the public and from
agreed on the following wording for 4.1.3:
The City shall consider the Cal Poly and
coordinate the planning and implementation
facilities to local college campuses.
4.1.4 Campus Master Plans
Member Crotser, Task Force Members
Cuesta College Master Plans to better
of safe and convenient bike access and
Task Force members discussed whether to keep 4.1.4 and whether the title should be
changed. There was consensus to keep the title and move 4.1.4 to Traffic Reduction
with the following wording:
The City shall encourage Cal Poly and Cuesta College to deemphasize the use of
automobiles and promote the use of alternative forms of transportation in their Master
Plans.
4.1.4 Zoning Regulations
Task Force members discussed bicycle lockers, their aesthetics and oft -times mis-
appropriated use for storage of other things. Steve Delmartini, SLO, agreed and noted
that the lockers are mostly unused. Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville
clarified that the term "lockers" did not refer to bicycle storage but was associated with
provision for showers for commuting employees and that "secured bicycle parking"
includes many possible types of facilities. The intent is to provide secure bicycle
parking. Task Force members agreed to the following wording for 4.1.4:
The City shall revise its zoning regulations to establish and maintain standards for
secure bicycle parking and ancillary facilities.
4.1.5 Railroad Bikeway and Trail
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that the City cannot obtain right -of-
way or easements from the railroad at this time which is why this program does not say
"shall." Task Force members agreed to the following language for 4.1.5:
The City should obtain railroad right -of -way and easements to establish a separated
bike path and pedestrian trail through San Luis Obispo.
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4.1.6 Funding Priority
Member Multari presented wording for a policy and program to address the desire to
assign financial support for transportation infrastructure and projects according to the
desired mode share. Staff committed to review the suggested wording and return to the
Task Force at the next meeting with recommendations.
Task Force members discussed the goal of twenty percent mode share for bicycles and
whether that should mean twenty percent of transportation funding should be allocated
to bicycle paths and facilities. It was noted that bike paths may be less expensive to
build than roadways but that acquiring parcels can be a huge expense. Principal
Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that grants for bike paths and facilities are not
as readily available as in the past. Pete Schwartz, SLO, requested that the word "strive"
be dropped to indicate that funding will match the mode share. This item was placed in
the "parking lot" for future discussion.
4.0.3 Continuous Network
Task Force members revised Policy 4.0.3 in light of the discussions and agreed to add
language to 4.0.3:
The City shall collaborate with SLO County to coordinate planning and development of
county bikeways to support a regional bike network and identify and acquire additional
rights of way as they become available.
On motion by Task Force Member Quaglino, and seconded by Task Force Member
Rademaker, toga prove the programs discussed and agreed upon in 4.1 and the
revised policy 4.0.3.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
5.0.1: Promote Walking
After a short discussion in which Pete Schwartz suggested that the City should support
taking steps to close the downtown area to automobiles, the Task Force agreed on the
following wording for 5.0.1:
The City shall encourage walking as a regular means of transportation.
5.0.2 Sidewalks and Paths
Task Force members discussed whether "avoid sensitive areas" should be removed.
Member Brown stated it was not needed. Member Saunders stated it would apply to
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trails in open spaces. Member Crotser noted that including it may preclude creative
solutions to dealing with sensitive areas and opportunities for educational use of paths.
Member Saunders strongly urged the retention of "should" rather than "shall' because it
allows for consideration of variables like slopes, cul -de -sacs and neighborhood
character, and whether residents actually want sidewalks. It was noted that sidewalks
are not always appropriate and the main goal is to provide connections between areas.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that the State requires the City to
consider providing sidewalks.
Anne Wyatt, SLO supported wording that says the City shall make safe pedestrian
pathways. Member Goetz stated that two types of safety have to be considered:
neighborhood safety and safety for walkers.
Task Force members agreed on wording for 5.0.2:
The City should complete a continuous pedestrian network connecting residential areas
with major activity centers as well as trails leading into City and County open spaces.
5.0.3 New Development
The Task Force approved the recommended wording for 5.0.3 without discussion:
New development shall provide sidewalks and pedestrian paths consistent with City
policies, plans, programs, and standards.
5.04 Pedestrian Access
After a brief discussion, Task Force members approved the recommended wording for
5.0.4 replacing "should" with "shall' to read:
New or renovated commercial and government public buildings shall provide convenient
public access from nearby sidewalks and pedestrian paths separate from driveways and
vehicle entrances.
5.0.5 Pedestrian Crossings
There was a discussion of traffic calming and whether downtown residents would want it
on their street.
Lea Brooks, SLO, noted that some intersections have only three crosswalks, requiring
pedestrians to travel across three streets in an intersection to get to their destination.
She expressed concern about the disabled and asked if four sidewalks could be
required at all intersections. Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that
having three sidewalks at an intersection is done for safety reasons and suggested
considering this when discussing multimodal levels of service.
Task Force members supported wording for 5.0.5 as follows:
To improve pedestrian crossing safety at heavily used intersections, the City shall
institute the following:
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A. Install crossing controls where warranted by the California MUTCD, that provide
adequate time for pedestrians to cross the street.
B. In the downtown, install traffic- calming features such as textured cross walks and
bulb -outs, where appropriate.
C. On Arterial Streets, Parkways or Regional Routes with four or more travel lanes,
install medians at pedestrian crossings where roadway width allows.
5.0.6 Downtown Core
Task Force Members supported the recommended wording for 5.0.6 including deletion
of the word "Core" in the title as follows:
The City shall require that pedestrian facilities in the Downtown be designed in
accordance with the Downtown Pedestrian Plan design guidelines to allow a clear path
of travel and include conveniently located rest areas with shade and seating.
5.1.1 Downtown Pedestrian Plan
The Task Force Members accepted the following wording for 5.1.1:
The City shall adopt and regularly update a Downtown Pedestrian Plan to encourage
walking and to expand facilities that provide pedestrian linkages throughout the
Downtown. The plan shall include pedestrian safety assessments in accordance with
State and Federal guidelines.
5.1.2 Sidewalk Network
Member Saunders stated that the word "shall' in this policy does not allow for flexibility
in dealing with issues such as slopes and historic trees. Principal Transportation
Planner Mandeville noted that she would have to check Complete Streets requirements
and that the City does allow for sidewalks to be placed on only one side of a street and
also supports no sidewalks at all in some instances. Member Multari suggested adding
a statement saying that sidewalks are not appropriate in every situation. Member
Saunders strongly supported this addition.
Member Meyer suggested changing the title to "Continuous and Connected Pedestrian
Network or simply Pedestrian Network."
The Task Force agreed to continue discussion of 5.1.2 until staff has further reviewed
the issue and the legal framework and reported back.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Rowley, to continue the
meeting until 9 p.m,
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
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The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
5.1.3 Americans with Disabilities Act Compliance
The Task Force agreed to the recommended wording for 5.1.3:
The City shall continue to implement its annual program of enhancing existing curbs
with ADA compliant ramps.
5.1.4 Safe Routes to School
The Task Force agreed to the recommended wording for 5.1.4:
The City shall continue to coordinate with SLOCOG and local schools to pursue Safe
Routes to School programs and grant opportunities.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the
policies and programs in Section 5 as discussed and agreed upon.
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Rail Transportation
Task Force Members approved replacing the word "supports" with "shall support" in
10.0.1.
The City shall support the increased availability of rail service for travel within the
county, the state, and among states.
On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the Rail
Transportation section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on an 11:1 vote.
Member Rowley stated she voted no because she does not believe the intent of the
word "support" in 10.0.2 is clear. Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated
that the wording refers to letters of support but not currently to financial support. She
noted that this wording is more about style and clarity.
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Parking Management
After a brief discussion, Task Force members agreed to delete the second sentence of
11.0.2 to read:
City parking programs shall be financially self - supporting.
The Task Force agreed to amend Program 11.1.4 to read KEMi]:
The City shall only approve construction of additional parking structures after
considering the findings and results of a parking supply and demand study.
The Task Force agreed to retain Program 11.1.5 but change the wording to:
The City shall continue to work with the Downtown Association to evaluate the use of
curb space in the downtown and identify opportunities for creating additional parking
spaces.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
Parking Management section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Neighborhood Parking Management
Task Force Members discussed the formation of parking districts by neighborhoods to
preserve street parking for residents. Member Rowley noted that the current process to
form a neighborhood parking district requires consensus of the surrounding
neighborhoods which makes it difficult to address neighborhood issues. She
recommends modifying the standards to require notification of but not concurrence from
the surrounding neighborhoods. Member Meyer agreed and noted that residential
neighborhoods are also impacted by employee parking from nearby commercial uses.
Member Crotser stated that the wording is designed to allow enough latitude to consider
something other than parking permits to solve the problem. Community Director
Johnson stated that staff will work on the language and come back to the Task Force
with recommendations.
2. Discussion of how the Task Force is to proceed
Community Development Director Johnson observed that the pace of the Task Force
deliberations may be of concern given the grant deadline. He offered several options
including subcommittees to tackle separate sections or a Saturday all -day work session,
and asked the Task Force to provide some direction to staff.
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Task Force members indicated discomfort with the idea of subcommittees and indicated
members benefit from the input of other members and the public. Member Crotser
suggested that members should receive updated wording before meetings and
members should do their homework to be prepared to make their recommendations
during meetings using a consent agenda format. Member Saunders stated she would
like to get the Land Use Element proposed changes as soon as possible.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to deal with the
easier topics at tomorrow's meeting and consider the more precise wording staff will
prepare on some topics at meetings next week, to have members prepare comments
before meetings, and to use a consent agenda format for all following meetings.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, Rademaker, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: OCTOBER 17, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
October 17, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Rob Rossi, Sandra
Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre
Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Hema Dandekar and Chris Richardson
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Planner
Peggy Mandeville, Traffic Operations Manager Jake Hudson, Associate
Planner James David, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Approval /amendment of the minutes of the October 16, 2013, meeting was
continued.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Continued Review of Circulation Element — Legislative Draft Review by Principal
Transportation Planner Mandeville
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that "work with" will replace the word
"encourage" and "regularly' will replace "periodically" throughout the Circulation Element
and "Downtown Core "will become "Downtown."
Scenic Roadways
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that staff is making two
recommendations: 1) leave the billboard language as it is in 13.1.4 and, since
billboards are not allowed, delete 13.1.5 Sign Regulations entirely.
Member Rowley stated she would like to retain the policy direction in 13.0. Member
Meyer recommended moving the first sentence of 13.0.1 to 13.0.2 Development along
Scenic Routes. Task Force members agreed to the deletion of 13.0 with relocation of
the first sentence to 13.0.2 as follows:
The City will preserve and improve views of important scenic resources. Development
along scenic roadways should not block views or detract from the quality of views.
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a. Projects in the viewshed of a scenic roadway should be considered as
"sensitive" and require architectural review.
b. Development projects should not wall off scenic roadways and block views.
c. As part of the city's environmental review process, blocking of views along
scenic roadways should be considered a significant environmental impact.
d. Signs along scenic roadways should not clutter vistas or views.
e. Street lights should be low scale and focus light at intersections where it is
most needed. Tall light standards should be avoided. Street lighting should
be integrated with other street furniture at locations where views are least
disturbed. However, safety priorities should remain superior to scenic
concerns.
f. Lighting along scenic roadways should not degrade the nighttime visual
environment and night sky per the City's Night Sky Preservation Ordinance.
On motion by Member Rademaker. and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
Scenic Roadways as amended.
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Circulation Element Implementation and Management
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that changes in this section are for
style and clarity except for one change made in 14.0.2 Encourage Alternative
Transportation to read:
Programs or projects that reduce dependence on single- occupant vehicles and
encourage the use of alternative forms of transportation shall be considered prior to
roadway capacity increasing projects.
Task Force Members determined that 14.0.5, 14.0.6, 14.0.7 and 14.0.8 should be
removed because they are either redundant or vague. Member Rowley disagreed and
asked where this direction exists already in the Circulation Element.
Member Multari suggested Multimodal be added to the Transportation Impact Fee
program in 14.1.2 and recommended removing the five -year interval prior to the
reference to state law. Member Saunders asked if there were any economic impacts to
changing this language in 14.1.2. Member Multari stated that this language does not
change current practice. Community Development Director Johnson added that the
City is reviewing impact fees to include capturing the cost of administering and updating
those impact fees. Task Force members agreed to the language for Program 14.1.2 as
follows:
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The City shall update its multi -modal transportation impact fee ordinance in accordance
with State Law (AB1600) that requires developers to fund their fair share of projects and
programs that mitigate city -wide transportation impacts caused by new development.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
Circulation Element Implementation and Management section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley, Whitney, and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 10:3 vote.
Traffic Management
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville noted that "As funding permits" has been
added to Policy 6.1.2 Transportation Monitoring so that this section corresponds with
actual practice.
Task Force members discussed 6.1.7 Access Management and determined that the
program needed to be stated in language that would be understood by any reader.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson read the definition and the Task Force agreed to
include the language as part of the program:
The City shall adopt a policy to control location, spacing, design and operation of
driveways, median openings, crosswalks, interchanges and street connections to a
particular roadway in a manner that preserves the safety and efficiency of the
transportation system.
The implementation of parking districts in the downtown and in neighborhoods was
discussed. Member Rowley suggested making the City one parking district with
residents receiving parking permits and the City providing parking garages where
residents with cars could rent storage space. She noted that Cal Poly students park
cars on City streets and then travel by bus or bicycle to Cal Poly. Member Rossi agreed
and said that the students have to pay for parking at Cal Poly and thus prefer parking on
City streets. Community Development Director Johnson suggested continuing this
discussion in the Parking Management section.
Member Multari expressed concern regarding the consequences of Policy 6.0.2 Street
Network which requires the City to address level of service standards if streets qualify
as "congested" by definition. He stated that, in some cases, the City wants congestion
to get people out of their cars. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that different
Level of Service standards will be addressed as part of the Multi -Modal policy and
program discussion. Member Rowley expressed concern that congestion may
discourage non - residents from shopping in the City. Community Development Director
Johnson stated that multimodal policies will be specific about where congestion is
acceptable.
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Member Saunders expressed concern about dropping all of the LOS statement in the
beginning of 6.0 and similar statements which refer to growth management in other
sections (8.0, 8.0.3, 8.1, etc.). She stated this is in conflict with Circulation Element
Goal 1.8 (Manage Traffic). Community Development Director Johnson stated that
growth management stands by itself but it can be referenced in 6.0. Member Multari
stated that the goal of implementing programs that use alternative transportation modes
when thresholds are exceeded would be lost if this statement in 6.0 is removed. Traffic
Operations Manager Hudson stated that this is addressed in multimodal policies. Task
Force members agreed to discuss the Traffic Management section at a later time.
Neighborhood Traffic Management
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that there should be a policy to
update the Neighborhood Traffic Management guidelines without getting into the
specific details at the general plan level.
Member Rowley suggested that 7.1.1 say "The City shall adopt Neighborhood Traffic
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intrusive traffic problems." Members Crotser and Juhnke preferred to retain the use of
the word "provide" because it provides stronger protection and that "intrusive" was not
defined.
Member Multari stated that he preferred the original 7.0.2 language and is
uncomfortable with the blanket statement of "shall not." Members Saunders and
Rademaker agreed. Member Meyer suggested using the original language for 7.0.2
and having staff craft a new section. Member Rowley noted that a neighborhood traffic
issue should not have to meet the congestion threshold to prompt action. Traffic
Operations Manager Hudson clarified the desire to identify thresholds so that new
projects do not cause congestion in neighborhoods and that potential problems would
have to be mitigated by the developer.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that he recommended keeping 7.0.2
and having staff develop policies to deal with new development and with neighborhood
impacts that do not meet thresholds.
During a discussion of 7.0.3 and quality of life vs. emergency response time, the Task
Force agreed to return to the original language in part B with some minor modifications
to read:
The City shall ensure that neighborhood traffic management projects:
a. Provide for the mitigation of adverse impacts on all residential neighborhoods.
b. Provide for adequate response conditions for emergency vehicles.
c. Provide for convenient and safe through bicycle and pedestrian traffic.
Task Force members agreed that street width and other quality of life features should
not be determined solely by emergency vehicle requirements.
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Member Crotser made a motion to approve section 7 with those sections referenced
that will return for further discussion at a future meeting and as amended. Member
Brown seconded this motion.
During the discussion, Member Saunders noted that 7.1.4 would be eliminated with this
motion. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that this topic would be dealt with in
a separate consolidated Neighborhood Traffic Management (NTM) document. Member
Rowley supported leaving 7.1.4 in this section because it tells the NTM document that
this is important. The motion was then amended to retain 7.1.4 but with the deletion of
the first four words, to read:
The City shall analyze residential streets for their livability with regard to traffic noise,
volumes, and speed. Traffic calming or other intervening measures may be necessary
to maintain the residents' quality of life.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve section 7
as amended and with those sections referenced that will return for further discussion at
a future meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Street Network Changes
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville explained that a reference to environmental
justice, which is a requirement for grants, and information on gateways have been
added and that the Downtown Pedestrian Plan has been referenced in this section.
She noted that the title "Project Implementation" had been inadvertently crossed out and
would be restored.
Task Force members discussed the proposed changes to Policy 8.0.2 Public
Participation and agreed to modify to read:
The City shall provide for broad public participation in the planning and design of major
changes to the street network.
Member Multari suggested eliminating the added wording "and contribute their fair
share to the purpose" in Policy 8.1.2 because it is vague and does not add any
meaning. The Task Force was in agreement regarding removal of the added wording.
A motion was made by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Rossi, to
approve section 8 as amended. Member Multari stated that he was opposed because
the language in 8.1.6 is a problem and he thinks gateways are a terrible mistake.
Saunders stated that she agreed. Member Juhnke noted that 8.1.6 mandates that the
City identify gateways. Member Crotser stated that design standards are important and
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that 8.1.6 supports and strengthen s
Director Johnson stated that further
meeting. There was no vote taken.
Truck Transportation
design guidelines. Community Development
discussion of this issue should come at a later
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville recommended deleting a downtown truck
deliveries policy. Member Multari suggested that it be made a program stating that the
city shall adopt an ordinance about truck deliveries. Member Quaglino noted that trucks
stop wherever needed and not necessarily in loading zones downtown. Traffic
Operations Manager Hudson explained that it is difficult to move or change downtown
loading zones because they are highly valued by many interested parties. After further
discussion, the Task Force members agreed to add a Program:
The City shall adopt an ordinance regulating the movement of heavy vehicles.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Rowley, to approve Section 9
as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NO- AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: OCTOBER 24, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
October 24, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Hema
Dandekar, Jon Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Chris Richardson, Rob
Rossi, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, and Chairperson
Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Matt Quaglino and Pierre Rademaker
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Manager
Peggy Mandeville, Traffic Operations Manager Jake Hudson, Transportation
Consultant Jim Damkowitch (via phone), and Recording Secretary Diane
Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: No minutes were presented for consideration.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Dan Rivoire, SLO, Director of the San Luis Obispo County Bike Coalition, stated he was
representing the concerns of young families who cannot attend the Task Force
meetings. He strongly supported reducing vehicular speeds in neighborhoods, filling in
the gaps in the bicycle path network and proportional spending of transportation funds.
He complimented the Task Force for strong and forward thinking.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, agreed with Mr. Rivoire and stated that she wants stronger wording
in support of proportional funding to indicate that the City is committed to bicycle
infrastructure improvements.
Garrett Olson, Fire Chief, stated he bikes to work and strongly supports enhancing the
bicycle network. He noted that the Task Force had discussed residential street
configuration and how it impacts the character of the neighborhood and further
discussed concerns regarding safety equipment. Chief Olson stated that the City's 100 -
foot ladder truck is the most maneuverable in the fleet and that the Fire Department is
replacing its oldest vehicle with a new one that has a better turning radius. He thanked
the Task Force for its work and indicated that the Fire department will continue to be
supportive of efforts to retain community character.
There were no further comments made from the public.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that the current Circulation Element contains
level of service (LOS) standards for vehicles only and that new policy language is
proposed to address LOS for vehicles, bicycles, pedestrians, and transit so that impacts
and improvements can be evaluated for how all four modes are affected.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch noted that State Assembly Bill 1358 (2010)
requires a city to address multi -modal level of service ( MMLOS) when updating its
Circulation Element to address the concept of "Complete Streets."
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson noted that MMLOS standards are national and are
developed through a complex formula that takes multiple criteria into account for each
mode. He described that proposed Policy 6.0.B establishes modal priority for street
types in areas of the City or by street type.
Task Force members clarified with staff questions regarding trade -offs between various
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street classifications. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that Johnson Street is
a special case, as it is both a residential and arterial street.
Member Multari asked if "shall maintain minimum levels for all four modes" means a
road that is currently insufficient would have to be upgraded. He further asked if other
direction to support bike and pedestrian facilities in the Upper Monterey area were in
conflict with this policy which assigns a higher priority for vehicles. He requested that
the source of the MMLOS standards be referenced in the document.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that it was reasonable to set the LOS
level for bike lanes at LOS D City -wide because the best level attainable on roads
shared with vehicles is C or D.
Task Force members requested clarification of maps that showed limited areas of
MMLOS measurement and also requested information regarding factors that determine
the LOS for various modes.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that sidewalk buffers, including on- street
parking, trees, landscaping, etc., that separate traffic from pedestrians, affect the quality
of service and sense of safety with LOS E meaning no sidewalk, no pedestrian right -of-
way, and high vehicle volumes at higher speeds. He noted that the City provides a high
LOS for pedestrians and that assigning level C city -wide is appropriate.
Member Juhnke asked if MMLOS policies require provision of sidewalks on every
street. The Task Force discussed how to ensure policies have flexibility to address
areas that do not currently have sidewalks and do not want sidewalks. Principal
Transportation Manager Mandeville stated that staff will consider this input and bring
back language to address.
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Member Meyer noted it seemed unfair that homeowners are often required to repair the
sidewalk in front of their house but not the roadway or bike path. Transportation
Consultant Damkowitch stated that this is an ADA issue and is not driven by multimodal
LOS.
James Lopes, SLO, stated that the LOS goals are too low if the City is trying to give
priority to bicycles and pedestrians. He supported LOS B for pedestrians and LOS C for
bike lanes and having one goal for neighborhood traffic and a separate goal for
downtown traffic. He suggested using standards that would incorporate pedestrian
volume thresholds as well as minimum sidewalk widths. Traffic Operations Manager
Hudson stated that traffic volume is only one of many components of the LOS grade.
Task Force members discussed maps displaying pedestrian LOS and identified areas of
missing links. Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that the LOS is not based
on both sides of the street simultaneously but on each side separately.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that frequency of service, availability of
seats, on -time performance and stop facilities are some of the determinants for transit
LOS. He noted that LOS A would denote 15 minutes or less between buses, a high
transit speed, and a shelter with benches. He recommended LOS D based on what is
already in existence.
Geoff Straw, Executive Director of SLO RTA, stated that bus service within a quarter
mile is good service and that an LOS of D or lower is not looking forward to improving.
He stated that mitigations should not be limited to infrastructure only, but should include
operating costs. He noted an example from Davis, California.
James Lopes, SLO, stated that the transit LOS should be higher than D in order to set a
goal for improvement.
Mila Vujovich- La Barre, SLO, stated that there has been a big increase in vehicle traffic
due to cuts in school district bus service and that more students would bike and ride
public transit if the service was there.
Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville suggested consideration of separate LOS
for streets with bus routes and streets not on bus routes. Traffic Operations Manager
Hudson stated that the City may not have the population to support 15- minute
headways and that the City could get an LOS grade F even if service is adequate to
serve a sparsely populated area.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson discussed Table 6.1 and indicated that the speed
limits have been changed to be compliant with California Vehicle Code (CVC) where the
City is prohibited from setting speed limits, and a new policy has been added to address
the desire to reduce traffic speeds. He noted that a few streets, including Johnson,
Foothill, and Grand, have evolved into arterials in residential areas. He stated that staff
is not proposing any changes to LOS standards for vehicles. Principal Transportation
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Manager Mandeville stated that LOS D will be the standard except downtown where it
will be LOS E because congestion to slow traffic is acceptable.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that new Policy 6.0.D establishes
significance thresholds for project impacts to levels of service. Member Bremer
recommended clarifying language to require interpretation of significance by the Council
instead of the City engineer. Task Force members further discussed the process to
make determinations and the desire to see those potentially impacted able to participate
in the process. Member Saunders quoted a relevant policy from elsewhere in the
Circulation Element and Chair Meyer suggested referencing that in 6.0.D.
Member Multari stated that there was a need to address neighborhood traffic impacts
that are not related to new development.
James Lopes, SLO, stated that he wants reference to CEQA standards. He stated
there should be provision for areas, such as the intersection of Broad and Tank Farm,
where the City wants to reverse priorities between vehicles and pedestrians to
encouraqe pedestrian traffic.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that pedestrian traffic has more to do with
land use and that facilities designed for vehicles as a higher priority can also enhance
facilities for pedestrians.
Member Crotser noted that the dilemma is that solutions or mitigation strategies outside
of the public right -of -way cannot be addressed through MMLOS.
Mr. Lopes noted that the idea could apply to any area in which the goal is to slow
vehicle speeds by installing facilities so the area is safe for pedestrians and bicycles.
He stated that he would put something together. Members Brown and Meyer supported
this.
Task Force members discussed how much of the language proposed in 6.0.E needed
to remain. Deputy Director Murry stated that the language is included to provide
information for those who lack familiarity with the MMLOS concepts.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, stated that a bus stop is no good if no bus is coming and that having
transit mitigations only for infrastructure is limiting. She stated that there could be a
case where a developer would volunteer a contribution for operating expenses.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that the mitigation does not preclude
volunteer contributions. Member Multari noted that it is tricky to make new development
responsible for operational mitigations and there are legal ramifications so more
information is needed. Member Brown suggested that the word "only' be taken out of c.
in Mitigation. The Task Force agreed.
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Chairperson Meyer asked if the meeting should be extended to 9 p.m. and all members
were in favor of doing so.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that if a project has an impact, there is
flexibility to mitigate off -site in another area if the mitigation is an overall improvement in
the network serving the affected area. Member Juhnke noted that a developer may
build a new neighborhood that does not need sidewalks and will then have to pay to
mitigate a problem that does not exist. Member Rowley asked if vehicular or bike traffic
could not be mitigated, would the developer be allowed to choose to mitigate elsewhere.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that it is not the developer who makes the
decision. Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville gave an example of acceptable
off -site mitigation: when a community decides they do not want a second right turn
lane, then the City could use mitigation money to build a bike path that goes around the
same intersection and mitigates the danger for cyclists. Member Multari suggested the
following changes for 6.0 F City Review (additions in bold, deletions struck through):
"To support a system-wide appr-eaGh for- ad&-easing Gir-GuiatiGn problem
When new projects adversely impact the existing circulation system,
the City shall review the effectiveness and desirability of 'direct fix'
mitigation improvements to address MMLOS impacts. Where a significant
impact is found, the City may approve alternative system -wide project
mitigations in
accordance with the modal priorities established in Policy 6.0.B.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that traffic, bicycle, and pedestrian counts
will be taken and standards updated biennially and published on the City website.
Member Brown stated that he shares concerns about using lower LOS standards. He
noted that using LOS D for bike paths does not reflect the goal to encourage people to
bike or for the City to make circulation more convenient for pedestrians and cyclists.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that there is a perception issue: the only
type of bike path that can achieve level A is a Class 1 and he recommended level D for
bikes because the best that can be achieved with on- street bike lanes is level C. He
stated that level C could be used but there would be a higher incidence projects
triggering significant impacts that could not be mitigated. Member Crotser endorsed
including concepts of sidewalk widths and performance standards.
Member Multari stated that there is a need to reference the source of the standards as
the Highway Manual. Member Rowley agreed.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that there is an annual national survey of
mode share information that the City can use to measure progress in comparison with
other cities. He did not recommend establishing targets with timelines as it sets the City
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up for failure and will quickly antiquate the General Plan; instead, mode share
information should be used to gauge trends and make sure the City is holding the line.
Task Force members discussed the source of mode share numbers and whether they
reflect objective goals. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated the bike share goal
of twenty percent by 2020 came from the Climate Action Plan. Member Rowley asked
how Cal Poly students are accounted for in surveys. Principal Transportation Manager
Mandeville stated that the American Community Survey uses census information local
to the City to generate a rolling five -year average of commuting to work information.
Transportation Consultant Damkowitch stated that Cal Trans does a home -based travel
survey every ten years or so that includes all types of trips.
Members Crotser and Meyer supported eliminating "strive to" but Community
Development Director Johnson stated that should not be done due to lack of control
over funding sources. Members Meyer and Brown stressed the necessity of a policy
statement that is strong. Member Multari stated that the City has never before had a
policy like this and that this is progressive because it requires development of budget
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was not comfortable voting until he knows the numbers. Member Crotser agreed and
stated that, if the numbers are known, the word "approximately' can be removed. He
stated that the City must have some level of commitment and focus.
On motion by Member Saunders, seconded by Member Rowley, to continue with the
Circulation Element at the next meeting and defer the Land Use Element to _ the
following meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Quaglino and Rademaker
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Member Rowley noted that a paragraph was moved to the top of page 2 -23 in Overall
Purpose, Level of Service, and then crossed out. She asked that Members look at it
and consider leaving it in.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: OCTOBER 30, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:13 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
October 30, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Hema
Dandekar, Jon Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Mike Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris
Richardson, Rob Rossi, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney,
Vice - Chairperson Pierre Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: None
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Manager
Peggy Mandeville, Traffic Operations Manager Jake Hudson, Planning
Technician Erik Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Minutes of October 16 and October 17, 2013, were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Continued Review of Circulation Element — Legislative Draft Review by Principal
Transportation Planner Mandeville
2.05 Traffic Reduction Policy
Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville stated that air quality is measured by the
State. Member Saunders stated that air quality was an important issue for residents.
Member Meyer noted that this policy has been in the General Plan for at least twenty
years. Other members discussed the need to reference this in the General Plan.
On motion by Comm. Member Saunders, seconded by Comm. Member Rademaker, to
retain the references to air quality in 2.0.5 with original language.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rossi, and Meyer
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: None
The motion failed on a 5:10 vote.
On motion by Member Juhnke to recommend Ian ua a for 2.0.5 as follows: The Cit
will support programs that reduce traffic congestion and maintain air quality. If air
quality degrades below legal standards, or level of service (LOS) standards are
exceeded, the City will pursue more stringent measures to achieve its transportation
-goals.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, and
Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 14:1 vote.
Transit Service (Section 3)
On motion by Member Brown, seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve 3.0.6 as
presented (with correction of letter assignments A -D under 3.0.6).
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley,
Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
Bike Transportation (Section 4):
Staff proposed deletion of 4.0.7 Arterial Streets because not all arterial streets are
designated to accommodate bike lanes. Principal Transportation Planner
Mandeville indicated that the Bicycle Transportation plan identifies where bike lane
installation is appropriate.
New programs and policies were recommended as follows:
New Program: "The City shall maintain its silver level award designation as a
Bicycle Friendly Community and pursue a gold level designation."
New Policy: "The City shall continue to seek compliance with its traffic laws through
enforcement and education."
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New Policy: "The City shall identify and pursue the acquisition of right of way
needed to implement the projects identified in the City's Bicycle Transportation
Plan."
Anne Wyatt, SLO, stated that all new arterials should automatically include bike paths.
Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville stated that all of the arterials in the
planning stages are designated to have bike paths.
On motion Member Rossi, seconded by Member Brown to recommend deletion of 4.0.7
and the addition of the new program and the two new policies listed above.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley,
Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
Walking (Section 5)
Principal Planner Mandeville recommended a new policy to address the Task Force
direction regarding sidewalks and whether they are appropriate or desired in all
neighborhoods.
New policy: "Sidewalks. As allowed by the American with Disabilities Act, the City
shall consider existing neighborhood character and connectivity when identifying and
prioritizing the installation of sidewalks."
The Task Force discussed whether there was a need for this policy. Principal
Transportation Manager Mandeville stated that this policy is in the Walking section to
affirm that sidewalks are not appropriate for every street. Task Force members
discussed whether specific types of streets, like cul de sacs, or other criteria should be
called out. Member Rademaker suggested adding "physical constraints" to the
considerations. Member Multari suggested the following wording:
As allowed by the American with Disabilities Act, the City shall consider existing
neighborhood character, including topography, street design, existing density,
and connectivity when identifying and prioritizing the installation of sidewalks.
On motion by Member Saunders, seconded by Member Brown to use Member Multari's
Ian uage listed above for this new policy.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley,
Saunders and Whitney
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NOES:
None
RECUSED:
None
ABSENT:
None
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
Traffic Management (Section 6): New Policy— Growth & Roadway Expansion
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that the proposed revisions to 6.0, Overall
Purpose, were intended to broaden and correct references to the City's growth
management policies. Staff has developed a new policy titled Growth Management and
Roadway Expansion to more directly address the intended policy guidance in the overall
purpose statement.
Member Rossi asked how this policy deals with traffic in and out of the City due to new
businesses in the City with employees living outside the City. Traffic Operations
Manager Hudson stated that the reference to "regional transportation plans" covers this.
Member Saunders stated that she understood the Task Force and Planning
Commission had voted to use existing goals as "Guiding Principles" in re- writing
policies. The Task Force discussed the relationship of goals and policies and how they
must correspond. It was noted that in the Task Force's revisions to or additions of
policies, the Task Force may identify the need to create new or edit existing goals. The
Task Force will have the opportunity to review Goals once the legislative draft review is
completed.
Member Multari suggested this wording for the new Growth Management and Roadway
Expansion policy:
"The City shall manage the expansion of roadways to keep pace with only the level of
vehicular traffic associated with development planned for in the Land Use Element, in
accordance with the City's growth management policies and regional transportation
plans."
Traffic Management (Section 6): New Policy— Transportation Funding
Staff described a new program suggested to address the Task Force's direction to
address proportional funding for modes. The Task Force discussed this new policy and
associated mode split information and determined that some categories, such as
telecommuting, driving alone and carpooling, had been left off of the Modal Split
Statistics. Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville stated that the information in
the figure is used to target funding and that the numbers reference only City residents.
Member Meyer noted that the City is striving to attain the percentage modal split goals
listed for 2020 and 2035. Member Multari suggested that staff bring the Modal Split
Statistics with all categories listed and the new Transportation Funding policy back to
the Task Force at a later date for discussion. The Task Force agreed.
Member Crotser asked how the mode share statistics tie in with the Housing Element
goal of providing adequate housing to eliminate commuting. Community Development
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Director Johnson noted that it is difficult to track and there is no way to guarantee that
those who move into houses in the City are actually going to work in the City.
Dan Rivoire, SLO Bike Coalition, strongly supported the new Transportation Funding
policy, urging the City to focus on how people are going to get around in the future.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, agreed with Mr. Rivoire.
Multi -Modal Goal, Policies, and Programs - New
Goal X: Support the development and maintenance of a circulation system that
balances the needs of all circulation modes
Policy 6.0 A and B
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that Table 6.0.1 had been modified to
address Task Force direction to differentiate between Levels of Service (LOS) impacts
versus LOS objectives. The revised table includes minimum LOS standards to be used
to determine if a development would create a significant impact and the LOS that the
City would strive to achieve. Consultant Damkowitch expressed concern about the
impacts of setting LOS C as a minimum standard for bicycles due to the difficulty in
achieving this standard in areas for which the City has no control (such as traffic speeds
or mix). Member Juhnke noted that many City streets won't meet the LOS C standard
for bikes. Community Development Director Johnson stated that new development
cannot be counted on to upgrade all the paths to meet the C standard.
Members asked about the differences between LOS C and D. Consultant Damkowitch
stated that there are many variables including amount and speed of traffic, especially in
the lane nearest the bike path; truck traffic; on- street parking; paving condition; and the
lane striping. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson added that bicycle facilities could be
optimal but other factors, such as truck traffic, can affect the LOS.
Member Rowley supported going back to the minimum level recommended, which
would be a D for bicycles and a C for pedestrians. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson
concurred.
The Task Force continued to discuss the LOS for all modes. Member Crotser noted
that to get to LOS B for one mode could decrease the LOS for other modes. Member
Bremer stated that if the LOS for bicycles is higher than D, change will happen faster.
Anne Wyatt, SLO, supported LOS B for bicycles but stated she appreciated the
problems that could create.
Member Whitney asked what the impacts would be if the LOS standard is set higher
than the existing LOS. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that development
would have to pay their fair share to bring the LOS up to City standard and that could
expedite bike lane improvement but it could also slow it down if costs are so expensive
that development is discouraged. He further noted that a developer is only responsible
to mitigate impacts from the project.
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Member Rademaker stated that he would like "strive" to apply to both the minimum
standard and the objective. Member Meyer suggested making the minimum LOS an
objective, not a standard. Member Rademaker stated he would support LOS D with the
current wording.
On motion by Member Rowley, seconded by Member Juhnke, to change the _minimum
LOS standard for bicycles from C to D and add this word "shall" before "maintain level of
service minimums" in Policy 6.0.B.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari,
Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
NOES: Brown and Meyer
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 13:2 vote.
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pedestrians and that Member Multari's language about topography, etc., should be
added to footnote 2 under Table 6.0.1 which references exceptions to pedestrian LOS.
Member Juhnke asked how many streets would be out of compliance with a minimum
standard of C. Community Development Director Johnson stated that if this policy is
adopted, it will not spark a massive retrofit for pedestrians.
Member Saunders asked what "other means" referred to in Policy 6.03 (2) the City
could use to achieve ADA compliance for streets such as those on steep hills. Traffic
Operations Manager Hudson stated that there can be an overriding exception when
there is no way to achieve ADA accessibility and the only point of having this policy is to
acknowledge that the City knows ADA must be considered. Principal Transportation
Manager Mandeville stated that the reference to ADA could be removed by putting a
period after Member Multari's added language.
On motion by Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
footnote language as amended for Table 6.0.1 as follows:
Exceptions to minimum pedestrian LOS objectives & standards may apply when it is
determined that sidewalks are not consistent with neighborhood character, including
topography, street design, and existing density.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley,
Saunders and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 15:0 vote.
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Policy 6.0.0 Multimodal Priorities
Principal Transportation Manager Mandeville suggested changing "shall' to "should' to
provide flexibility.
Multari asked if the Priority Mode Rankings in Table 6.0.2 would mean that bike paths
would have to be constructed in established neighborhoods to achieve LOS D. Traffic
Operations Manager Hudson responded by saying no but suggested that the language
from Member Multari should be added to Table 6.0.2 footnote.
Member Rowley stated that it would be better for Residential Corridors and
Neighborhoods to have Vehicles as the third mode in ranking and Transit as fourth.
Member Juhnke noted that hoteliers on upper Monterey would want vehicles to have a
higher ranking than bicycles. Member Meyer noted the need for a mechanism for
unique situations because one blanket policy cannot cover all areas of the City.
Member Crotser supported the rankings in Table 6.0.2 as presented and noted that
once visitors arrive at hotels, they could use transit. Traffic Operations Manager
Hudson stated that he understood the Task Force wanted to make vehicles third and
transit fourth in priority for residential corridors and neighborhoods, and that the
exceptions typically apply in residential pockets that are within commercial areas.
Task Force members agreed to revise priority mode rankings in Table 6.0.2 to reflect
Vehicles as third and Transit as fourth priority in Residential Corridors and
Neighborhoods. The Task Force also corrected the title of Commercial Corridors and
Areas (and deleted "neighborhoods ").
On motion by Member Rowley, seconded by Member Rademaker, to continue the
meeting until 9 p.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Rossi
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Member Crotser suggested expanding the description of "barrie?' in 6.0.E to make it
more clear by adding the language, "barrier between pedestrian and vehicle traffic... ".
On motion by Member Juhnke, seconded by Member Crotser. to aoDrove the
Multimodal Priorities section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Multari, Quaglino, Richardson, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders and
Whitney
NOES: None
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RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Rossi
Policy 6.0.F City Review
Member Rowley suggested adding wording to the MMLOS Programs to further define
"traffic count" to refer to counting pedestrians, bicycles and vehicles.
Traffic Operations Manager Hudson explained that when a traffic impact analysis shows
that new development will cause that development to exceed the LOS thresholds, then
the developer will have to mitigate those impacts. Members Goetz and Richardson
expressed concerns that it might be possible for someone to use the wording in Policy
6.0.F to block new development. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson stated that the
following language can be added to clarify the policy: "unless mitigation measures
address that impact." Member Bremer stated that the City should not want
development that worsens traffic so this additional language is not needed. Member
Rowley stated that if a new project in an existing neighborhood causes the standards to
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discuss impacts and mitigations and whether mitigations are included in the definition of
development in this policy. Traffic Operations Manager Hudson suggested additional
language that says "as per the City established guidelines."
Neighborhood Traffic Management:
New Policy— Neighborhood Traffic Speeds:
The Task Force reviewed proposed language provided by staff to address previous
Task Force direction. The Task Force agreed on the following language: "The City
shall endeavor to reduce and maintain reduced vehicular speeds." Traffic Operations
Manager Hudson stated that this policy provides guidance for reducing speeds on
residential arterials and keep them as low as possible.
Member Multari stated that the new language is very strong and is going to potentially
be a real problem for development, especially infill development. He stated that the
Task Force did not discuss the implications of the new policy.
Member Quaglino asked if this is not in conflict with the City's goal supporting infill
projects. Member Goetz agreed. Member Multari noted the complexity of dealing with
the LOS limits and gave as an example the redevelopment of University Square and
how that may cause Ramona Avenue to exceed LOS standards which would then end
up preventing that redevelopment because there is no way to mitigate the impact.
Members discussed how to address quality of life issues for residents as development
is evaluated and noted how tradeoffs considered during the process need to include
affected neighborhoods.
Member Crotser noted that with all the discussion about infill and density, etc., maybe
there is a need to revisit circulation in connection with land use. Member Rowley stated
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that there is a need to protect residential neighborhoods or you get flight from the City.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that this policy will be added to the
"parking lot" of issues that need to come back for Task Force evaluation.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the "parking lot" items will
come back for Task Force review. She noted that the Task Force needs to transition to
reviewing the Land Use Element beginning at the next meeting, November 6 th
Member Rowley stated that it is confusing to jump around and she would like to go back
to starting at the top of each page and take each part in a logical manner without
jumping around in the document. Member Saunders stated that a new first section has
been added and that there needs to be a commitment that this does not change
anything in the Land Use Element. Member Multari suggested highlighting the few
changes that have been made.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: November 6, 2013, at 6 p.m.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
November 6, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Chris Richardson, Sharon Whitney,
Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Vice - Chairperson Pierre Rademaker, and
Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
Staff: Deputy Director of Community Development Kim Murry, Director of
Community Development Derek Johnson, Planning Technician Erik Berg -
Johansen, Principal Transportation Manager Peggy Mandeville, and
Recording Secretary Shelly Mattocks. Rick Rust of Matrix Consulting on the
phone also participated in the meeting.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Minutes of October 24th were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Mr. John Semon, San Luis Obispo, and Mr. Kurt Friedmann, San Luis Obispo, both
spoke in support of home - stays /vacation rentals as positive experiences for tourists and
as positive contributors to tourism dollars in the community.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Draft Land Use Element:
Kim Murry, Deputy Director, introduced the draft revisions to the Land Use Element and
provided details regarding a few of the more substantive changes being proposed,
including the organization of land use designations into a table format at the beginning
of the document.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
The Task Force discussed the review process and questioned why there weren't
revisions to the Preamble section for their review. City staff indicated that the Preamble
is intended to not only reflect the status of the community but also to reflect the key
findings and outcomes of the update process which is not yet complete. Chair Meyer
observed that information from the background report and input from workshops was
available and could be used to provide an updated section. Member Saunders
commented that the City Council had endorsed using the existing goals as the basis for
updating policies and that these shouldn't change.
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On a motion by Task Force Member Juhnke, seconded by Member Rademaker to bring
the information available to date in the Preamble section to the Task Force for
Dreliminary review.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz,
Juhnke, Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Land Use Diagram and Standards:
Kim Murry, Deputy Director, described the proposed change from 18 dwelling units per
acre (du /ac) to 20 du /ac for the Medium High Density Residential land use category.
She described how this change would provide additional land area for which to
demonstrate capacity to accommodate the State regional housing needs allocation.
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review of the land use designation organization: one to determine if the table format
was acceptable; one to determine if the change from 18 du /ac to 20 du /ac was
acceptable for Medium High Density Residential; and one to discuss minimum densities
for Medium and High Density Residential categories.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Steve Delmartini, San Luis Obispo, questioned how much capacity this proposed
change actually produced. Rick Rust, City consultant (via phone), indicated the City
has approximately 10 acres of vacant land designated Medium High Density
Residential.
Bill Thoma, San Luis Obispo, indicated that a change in height limits is necessary to
accommodate additional residential development.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
Task Force members discussed the land use designation organization and discussed
the verbiage "similar and compatible uses" associated with land use designations. The
direction of the Task Force was to add the discussion of similar and compatible uses as
part of the paragraph leading into the table and to remove it from the listed uses under
each designation.
Task Force members also requested that the third bullet at the top of page 1 -23 be
corrected to add "committed to this type of development" to the end of the sentence;
and that page 1 -24 be corrected to refer to the "Downtown Core" versus the
"Downtown" since they refer to different geographic areas as shown on Figure 4. Task
Force members asked that staff ensure these terms are appropriately referenced
throughout the document.
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On a motion by Task Force Member Brown, seconded by Member Bremer, to support
the organization of land use designations into a table format as shown in the draft Land
Use Element.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz,
Juhnke, Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
On motion by Task Force Member Juhnke seconded by Member Crotser to support the
density increase in Medium High Density Residential from 18 du /acre to 20 du /acre.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz,
Juhnke, Multari, Richardson, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
ABSTAIN: Task Force member Rowley
The motion passed on a 11:0 vote with one abstention.
Task Force members discussed the concept of assigning minimum densities for
Medium and High Density Residential land use designations.
Steve Delmartini, SLO, indicated that the real estate market is trending toward single -
story, detached units on smaller lots and that minimum densities may not achieve this
form.
On a motion by Task Force Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Whitney to o not
support minimum densities for Medium and High Density Residential land use
designations.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Juhnke,
Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: Committee Member Crotser
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
The motion passed on a 11:1 vote
Task Force member Saunders passed out two pages containing the General Plan
glossary definition of Open Space and recommended language for the description of the
Open Space land use designation in the Table. She referred to City Council direction
that terms used in the update should be consistent with the glossary definitions.
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The Task Force agreed that the description used in the proposed land use designation
table did not appear to be in the same format nor reflect the glossary definition of Open
Space and directed staff to review and return with recommended language that would
be reflective of the definition with a brief listing of typical uses.
Task Force member Multari questioned the land use designations used in Table 2 which
reflect designations in the Planning "sub- area" outside of the City limits. After
discussion, the Task Force identified Table 2 as a "parking lot" item for which staff
needs to further review and return with an updated recommendation.
Chapter 1: Growth Management
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Bill Thoma, San Luis Obispo, provided comments about
population limit versus urban boundary of the city in Policy 1.2. He also expressed
concern about Policy 1.4 (jobs- housing balance) and wanted to ensure that actions
taken to reduce the gap between jobs and housing didn't include efforts to limit non-
residential development.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS: Task Force members discussed Policy 1.4 on page 1 -34
and questioned how this was monitored and acted on by City Council. Staff indicated
that the annual report to the City Council provided the opportunity for the Council to
review growth and determine if any actions were needed. The Council has not acted in
the past to limit non - residential development. The Task Force determined that the Land
Use Element designations and policies would govern how much residential and non-
residential development should occur.
On a motion by Task Force Member Meyer, seconded by Member Bremer to delete
Policy 1.4 (Jobs- Housing Relationship).
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz,
Juhnke, Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Task Force Members discussed policies in this Chapter and provided further direction
as follows:
Policy 1.3 (page 1 -34): include the word "may" in the third sentence after "Such
measures ".
Policy 1.7.4 (page 1 -36): review for consistency of parcel sizes.
Policy 1.9.3 (page 1 -38): Retain original language (recommended by Task Force
Member Saunders, seconded by Member Rademaker).
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Policy 1.9.4 (page 1 -38): Minor revisions to language under sub - section A to read, "Be
screened from public views by land forms or vegetation, but not at the
expense of habitat. If the visually screened locations contain sensitive habitats or
unique resources as defined in the Conservation and Open Space Element, avoid
development should be avoided in those areas and instead designed as the clustered
development in the form of vernacular farm building complexes, to blend the traditional
agricultural working landscape.
Policy 1.10.4 (page 1 -40): Task Force members provided minor language changes to
retain the word "Council" in the first sentence, and to add, "or companies producing
significant numbers of head of household jobs" to the end of subsection D.
Policy 1.11.1 (page 1-41): Task Force members changed the language to read, "The
City shall continue to communicate with nearby government and educational institutions
to address proposed changes in numbers of workers, students, or inmates that have the
potential to result in significant adverse land use or circulation impacts on the City or
may negatively influence the City's ability to manage growth.
Policy 1.11.4 (page1 -41): Task Force opted to replace the word "plans" with "efforts ".
Policy 1.12.6 (page 1-45): Task Force revised proposed text to read, "The City shall
approve development in newly annexed areas only when adequate City services can be
provided for that development, without reducing the level of public services or
increasing the cost of services for existing development and for build out within the City
limits."
Policy 1.12.7 (page 1 -46): Task Force determined that subsection F was still needed to
address future Bishop Knolls annexation.
On a motion by Task Force Member Brown, seconded by Member Goetz to approve the
Growth Management Chapter with revisions and direction as noted.
AYES: Committee Members Meyer, Rademaker, Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz,
Juhnke, Multari, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Dandekar, Rossi, and Quaglino
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no further comments made from the public.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: NOVEMBER 7, 2013.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:06 pm.
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Respectfully submitted by,
Shelly Mattocks
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
November 7, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Chuck Crotser, Hema Dandekar,
Chris Richardson, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, and
Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Russell Brown, Rob Rossi, Jon Goetz, Matt Quaglino,
Michael Multari, Dave Juhnke, and Vice -Chair Pierre Rademaker
Staff: Director of Community Development Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Planner
Peggy Mandeville, Planning Technician Erik Berg- Johansen, and Recording
Secretary Shelly Mattocks (plus Larry Mintier of Mintier - Harnish Consulting,
on the phone also participated in the meeting)
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: No comments for items not on the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Land Use Element draft: The Task Force began their deliberations where they left off
the previous night.
Chapter 2: Conservation and Development of Residential Neighborhoods
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
Task Force members discussed the introductory sentence and provided edits to the
proposed language.
On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Brown to revise the
introduction to read: The City shall preserve, protect, and enhance the City's
neighborhoods and strive to preserve and enhance their identity and promote a higher
quality of life within each neighborhood.
AYES: Committee Members Rowley, Meyer, Saunders, Crotser, Richardson, and
Bremer
NOES: Committee Members Dandekar and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari,
Rademaker, and Juhnke
The motion passed on a 6:2 vote.
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Policy 2.1.3 (Page 1 -50) was revised to include "bicyclists" in the second sentence.
Policy 2.1.4 (page 1 -51) was revised to read: "The City shall provide a pattern of streets,
pedestrian network, and bicycle infrastructure that promotes neighborhood and
community cohesiveness. There should be continuous sidewalks or paths of adequate
width connecting neighborhoods with each other and with public and commercial
services and public open space to provide continuous pedestrian paths throughout the
city. Connectivity to nearby community facilities (such as parks and schools), open
space, and supporting commercial areas shall also be enhanced but shall not be done
in a method that would increase cut - through traffic (see also the Circulation Element)."
Additionally, the Task Force asked the phrase "cut- through" or "pass through" traffic be
used consistently throughout the document rather than using multiple terms with a
similar meaning.
Policy 2.1.5 (page 1 -51) was revised to read: "The City shall treat streets, sidewalks,
and front setbacks as a continuous open link among all areas of the city and with all
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and community identity."
Task Force members discussed Policy 2.1.6 to determine why it had been
recommended, and what "a mix if housing types" means. Staff responded that mix of
types could refer to different housing styles, construction, or density. Committee
Member Rowley expressed concern about the use of the word "vibrant" because it
implies noise and much activity (such as what is found Downtown) and suggested
changing the word to "quality ". The Task Force members discussed the desirability of
different densities and protection of homogenous neighborhoods.
On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser, seconded by Member Rowley to put in
additional language to describe housing types, replace "vibrant" with "quality" and
remove next to last bullet on page 1 -52 that refers to network of facilities.
AYES: Committee Members Crotser,
NOES: Committee Members Bremer,
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown,
and Juhnke
The motion fails on a 3:5 vote.
Rowley, and Saunders
Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney, and Meyer
Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
On a motion by Task Force Member Dandekar, seconded by Member Bremer to put in
additional language to describe housing types and replace "vibrant" with "guality but to
retain the bullet item referring to interconnectedness.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney,
and Meyer.
NOES: Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari,
Rademaker, and Juhnke.
The motion passes on a 6:2 vote.
Policy 2.1.7 (page1 -52) The Task Force concurred on minor language changes to read,
"The City shall promote infill development, redevelopment, and rehabilitation, and
adaptive reuse efforts that contribute positively to existing neighborhoods and
surrounding areas."
The Task Force members discussed Policy 2.2.1 (page 1 -52). Task Force member
Rowley offered that she did not support the idea that shopping and services should
have to be available within a mile of dwellings and suggested that this be changed to
two miles. Task Force member Crotser indicated he would support shortening the
distance from a mile if any changes were to be made. Member Rowley expressed
concern that residential density allowed on neighborhood commercial properties is 12
units /acre whereas the surrounding low density neighborhood has a standard of 7
units /acre which may produce conflicts. Task Force members discussed the policy
language and determined that it would be best to reflect the differences in opinion by
vote.
On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser. seconded by Member Bremer to endorse
Policy 2.2.1 language as proposed in draft element.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, Whitney,
and Meyer
NOES: Committee Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari,
Rademaker, and Juhnke
The motion passes on a 6:2 vote.
Policy 2.2.7 (page 1 -54): Task Force members agreed to add the words "wildlife
corridors" after "wildlife habitats."
Policy 2.2.9 (page 1 -54): Task Force members discussed the list of compatible
development in detail. Staff recommended the addition of language in sub - section I to
reference the "in lieu parking fee area" after the word "Downtown" to distinguish where
off - street parking is required. Task Force member Rowley requested the policy citation
in subsection H be corrected to reference 2.1.6 (instead of 2.6.3) and that the adjective
in subsection E be changed from "vibrant" to "quality ". She expressed concern that this
policy did not protect neighborhoods from higher density development but rather made it
easier for those types of development to be introduced. There was much discussion
about housing such as multi - family dwellings from Committee Member Bremer.
Committee Member Saunders referred to Council direction to use LUCE terms
regarding the glossary definition of Infill" versus how the Task Force is using the term.
Committee Member Whitney commented on the definition of "structures" versus "uses."
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Task Force member Dandekar requested that the word "should" be replaced with "shall"
on the fourth line of the language in advance of the subsections. Task Force members
discussed the policy language and determined that it would be best to reflect the
differences in opinion by vote.
On a motion by Task Force Member Crotser. seconded by Member Richardson to
endorse Policy 2.2.9 language as proposed in draft element with revisions to subsection
I and E and correction to citation in subsection H as discussed.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, and Meyer
NOES: Committee Members Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
and Juhnke
The motion passes on a 5:3 vote.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS: Steve Delmartini, San Luis Obispo, spoke of providing a
parking overlay around Cal Poly to ensure additional parking above what is currently
required by the Zoning Ordinance is provided for housing near the campus.
Mr. Bill Thoma, San Luis Obispo, made comments about the description of housing in
the text.
PUBLIC COMMENTS: Comments were made from Mr. Delmartini about zoning rules
using Broad Street as an example.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
Policy 2.2.12 (page 1 -56): Task Force member Rowley requested that original policy
2.2.12 be retained. The Task Force members agreed that 2.2.12 was distinct from 2.2.1
and should be retained.
New Policy 2.2.12 (page 1 -56): This policy is repeated in 2.6 and the Task Force agreed
that this policy should be eliminated as a duplicate.
Residential Population Assumptions Table (page 1 -59): The Task Force endorsed
footnoting the table to indicate the population densities were meant to reflect population
estimates and not a density the City is striving to achieve.
Task Force member Rowley questioned the idea of density bonuses and "affordable by
design" units. She expressed concerns that units provided to meet state density bonus
standards were usually much smaller than the non - restricted units. Staff indicated that
the Housing Element was currently being updated and that this would be placed in the
"parking lot" as a Housing Element program to amend the City's implementation of
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density bonus standards to require that affordable units be of similar size and character
as the non - restricted units.
Policy 2.3.3 (page 1 -59): The Task Force endorsed keeping the first sentence that had
been proposed for deletion.
Policy 2.4.2 (page 1 -62): The Task Force discussed the intent of the proposed new
policy. Task Force member Saunders shared information from another jurisdiction that
has "sub- categories" of R -1 districts and would refuse applications that did not apply to
standards of those "sub- categories. ".
Director Johnson indicated he was unaware of the ability to deny an applicant the ability
to apply for a legislative change and that the new policy was intended to provide
direction to decision - makers when considering such applications.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Steve Delmartini provided example of Broad Street between Funston and Mitchell which
used to be R -2 and was down -zoned to R -1. This would be an appropriate area to up-
zone to R -2 to take advantage of deeper lots.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
On motion by Committee Member Richardson, seconded by Committee Member
Crotser to support the new policv 2.4.2 with a_ minor revision to remove the word
"significantly" on line two of the polio �� - --
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, and Richardson
NOES: Committee Member Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
and Juhnke.
The motion passed on a 5:3 vote.
On a motion by Task Force Member Meyer, seconded by Member Rowley to proceed
until 9 pm.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Richardson, Rowley,
Saunders, Whitney, and Meyer.
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari,
Rademaker, and Juhnke.
The motion passes on a 8:0 vote.
The Task Force took a five minute break.
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COMMITTEE COMMENTS:
The Task Force revisited Policy 2.4.2 to confirm the vote for purposes of staff and
recording secretary.
On motion by Committee Member seconded by Committee Member
Crotser to support the new policy 2.4.2 with a minor revision to remove the word
"significantly" on line two of the policy.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, and Richardson
NOES: Committee Member Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
and Juhnke
The motion passed on a 5:3 vote.
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where faculty housing would be most appropriate. Director Johnson proposed minor
language changes. After discussion regarding whether it is appropriate to name
Freshmen and Sophomores as those intended to be housed on campus, the Task
Force agreed to the following wording:
"The City shall encourage Cal Poly to build on- campus housing for at least 50 % of all
students. On- campus housing should be expanded at least as fast as enrollment
increases. Consideration shall be given for housing for faculty and staff as student
enrollment increases."
Policy 2.5.2: Task Force member Rowley offered language for Policy 2.5.2 to add a
provision that Cuesta College not only facilitate off - campus housing but to require out of
county first year students to live there. Task Force members discussed the intent of the
policy and whether the second sentence should be retained.
On motion by Committee Member Richardson. seconded by Committee Member
Crotser to support the Policy 2.5.2 as proposed in the legislative draft.
AYES: Committee Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Meyer, Richardson, and
Whitney
NOES: Committee Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSTAIN: Committee Member Saunders
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
and Juhnke
The motion passed on a 6:1 vote (Saunders abstained).
Policy 2.5.3 (page 1 -63): The Task Force agreed to the wording as follows: "The City
shall encourage development of attractive multifamily housing likely to be occupied by
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students to provide the amenities that students may otherwise seek in single - family
areas."
Policy 2.5.4 (page 1 -63): The Task Force agreed to add the word "staff' to the list of
faculty and students.
Policy 2.5.5 (page 1 -63): The Task Force agreed to substitute the word "campus" for
"Cal Poly ".
Policy 2.5.6 (page 1 -63): The Task Force agreed to change the end of the first sentence
to read, "in areas designated low- density residential."
Policy 2.6 (page 1 -64): Duplicate to 2.2.12. Staff will identify where the policy should
reside. .
Policy 2.7 (page 1 -64): Staff provided additional language to clarify intent. Task Force
member Rowley suggested addition of long term parking provisions. The Task Force
discussed the intent of Member Rowley's recommendation and agreed to the following
language:
"The City shall encourage the development of Downtown housing that minimizes the
need for automobile use and minimizes the storage of vehicles in surrounding
neighborhoods."
Program 2.8.1 (page 1 -65): The Task Force agreed to revise language to add the word
"actively" before the word "enforce ".
Program 2.10 (page 1 -65): The Task Force agreed to add a reference to Figure 4
(which shows the larger area of Downtown).
Program 2.14 (page 1 -66): The Task Force discussed the need to address protection of
R -1 neighborhoods and agreed to retain 2.14 as written and to add a New Program to
state, "The City will periodically update the Community Design Guidelines standards
that address incompatibly large homes, replacement or infill homes in existing
neighborhoods, and accessory structures."
Program 2.16 (page 1 -67): The Task Force agreed with staff recommendation to retain
2.16 and to add "parking requirements" as a criteria.
Task Force members discussed Program 2.11 E and asked for additional information
regarding timing of resident outreach and proposed project review. Director Johnson
provided information regarding the development review process and when the project
proposal is actually defined. He further described the tracking system in development
and how residents will be able to sign up for electronic notification of upcoming
development. The Task Force agreed to leave the language as written.
New Program (page 1 -67): Task Force members agreed to change language to
indicate "City- managed" to "City- owned ".
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New Program (page 1 -67): Staff recommended addition of "information and" prior to
"services ". The Task Force supported this change.
Task Force member Rowley suggested a New Program, "The City shall evaluate the
potential for development fees to fund new parking spaces in additional parking
structures for residents of new housing projects in the Downtown Core." Task Force
members discussed the idea of dedicated spaces versus paying for spaces in a
structure without them being reserved. Staff provided information regarding use of the
City's current parking structures and the difference between in -lieu fees and securing
parking in a structure for on -going use. Director Johnson indicated the need to evaluate
parking demand and how residential and commercial use of parking structures differ.
The Task Force supported this program.
On motion by Committee Member Dandekar. seconded by Committee Member Crotser
to approve the Residential Neighborhood chapter with changes as noted throughout the
Task Force discussion.
AYES: Committee Members Rowley, Meyer. Saunders, Crotser. Richardson,
Dandekar, Whitney, and Bremer +
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Committee Members Brown, Rossi, Goetz, Quaglino, Multari, Rademaker,
and Juhnke
The motion passed on a 8:0 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no further comments made from the public.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: Thursday, November 14, 2013, at 6 p.m., in the Council
Hearing Room at City Hall.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Shelly Mattocks
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
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ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Hema
Dandekar, Jon Goetz, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Rob Rossi, Sandra
Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Dave Juhnke, Pierre Rademaker, and Chris
Richardson
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Manager
Peggy Mandeville, Associate Planner James David, Traffic Operations
Manager Jake Hudson, Planning Technician Erik Berg- Johansen, and
Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: Minutes of October 30, 2013, were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Land Use Element – Legislative Draft Review
Parking lot item
Land Use Designation Table— Proposed Language for the Open Space
Designation
Staff referred the Task Force members to the recommended language to describe the
Open Space designation. Member Saunders noted that "protection of hillsides, Morros,
and ridgelines" should be added to the Uses listed in the description of Open Space.
She also proposed addition of the following wording under Purpose and Application in
the table: "Open Space purposes and uses are more fully described in the City's 2006
Conservation and Open Space Element."
The Task Force was in agreement with both recommendations with the exception that
reference to the year "2006" be removed.
Commercial & Industrial Development: Pages1 -68 through 1 -83
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Member Crotser stated that he preferred the original wording in 3.0.1 instead of "The
City shall provide for the development...." The Task Force agreed to retain the original
language.
Member Goetz: suggested a change in the order of wording for 3.0.3: move "adjacent"
to just before "residential areas." The Task Force agreed with this recommendation.
Member Rowley stated she did not see the purpose of retaining 3.1.2. She noted that
most retail stores have relocated out of the downtown. Members Quaglino and Rossi
wanted to keep 3.1.2. Member Brown stated that the purpose is to keep downtown a
vital commercial place.
Allan Cooper, SLO, supported keeping 3.1.2 because the City's role is to encourage
certain kinds of development in the City.
Member Rowley stated she was concerned about Policy 3.2.2 which allows
neighborhood commercial and R4 in R1 and R2 areas. Member Multari stated it was
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staff some discretion. Member Crotser stated he was comfortable with the existing
wording so as to allow for flexibility. He noted that the intention is to provide for the
possibility of a different housing type. Community Development Director Johnson
stated that the issues here are typically about zoning. The Task Force Members agreed
that the addition of a new program to address transitions between neighborhood
commercial development and the adjacent residential neighborhoods would address
this issue.
Member Rowley noted that "veterinarians" in 3.4.1.E does not seem to be within the
definition in F. Member Meyer suggested elimination of this example.
Member Quaglino asked why the airport area is not included in the locations for
governmental offices in 3.4.1.D. He suggested using the wording "where appropriate."
Community Development Director Johnson noted that 3.4.1.D is a tool to help guide
consolidation of governmental offices but that it is not always possible due to lack of
spaces or type of spaces available.
Allan Cooper, SLO, stated that he did not like pushing high tech business parks into the
hinterlands when the trend is for those businesses to want to be downtown. He noted
this is a major shift throughout the country.
Member Rossi added that many buildings in Goleta are now vacant because high tech
companies want to be in downtown Santa Barbara and that it would be the same in the
City if parking was available. Community Development Director Johnson stated that
there are no policy impediments to having that happen in the City. Member Meyer
agreed but added that he does not want to see a 50,000 square foot facility downtown.
Member Rowley asked why hostels and B &Bs are being allowed in medium and high
density areas in 3.5.2 when these housing types are needed as residences.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that these are often intermittent uses
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that go in cycles in which a building will be a B &B for awhile and then become
residential and vice versa. Member Multari suggested limiting the visitor - serving uses to
those near the downtown core.
On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Quaglno, to develop a program to
allow visitor - serving uses in office zones adjacent to commercial properties in the
Downtown and Monterey Street.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Multari,
Quaglino, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, Whitney, and Meyer
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Member Saunders asked what would be the harm in keeping 3.5.5 since it is really
important to residents. The Task Force agreed to keep 3.5.5.
In response to a question from Member Bremer about 3.6.4 Vehicle Sales, Deputy
Director Murry stated that special use standards will be discussed at the next meeting
and noted that language has been changed to reflect that there are already vehicle
sales and other businesses in the Calle Joaquin area. Member Rossi asked about
provision for new types of vehicle sales, such as a Tesla store in the downtown. He
stated that, in other cities, Tesla often locates next to an Apple Store due to similar
energy. Member Crotser noted that the intention of 3.6.4 was to avoid car lots
downtown.
Member Rowley asked how often Elements are updated. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry stated that it happens very rarely with the last major update in
1994 and an update in 2007 dealing with the issue of heights. Community Development
Director Johnson stated that updates are issue - driven and that the subject Member
Rossi talked about is a zoning issue, which is usually dealt with after the General Plan is
updated. Member Multari suggested that a new program could be developed to deal
with these issues. Member Dandekar noted that these businesses attract people who
have money to spend and the City should encourage that. Member Multari suggested a
new program with wording to begin with "The City will investigate...." Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that new wording could refer to "emerging
technologies and trends" and other subjects that do not fit easily into the existing codes.
Member Rowley stated that 3.7.3 is redundant. Member Meyer noted that previous
changes in the Element address this. Community Development Deputy Director Murry
stated that "infill of housing" could be replaced with "provision of housing on upper
floors."
Member Rowley asked why 3.8.4 is being omitted. Member Saunders stated that
directing tourists through neighborhoods is a hot button issue. She stated that she is
concerned about residential areas, specifically the Bishop's Peak neighborhood where
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residents do not want wayfinding signage directing traffic to their cul de sac. She
directed members to 8.1.6.F in the Circulation Element. Member Dandekar noted that
3.8.4 is about wayfinding for tourists.
Member Rowley stated that 3.9.6 provides standards for new residential development
for noise protection and then asked about protection for existing residential
development from noise generated by new development. Member Quaglino stated that
3.9.6 refers to "residential areas" so all neighborhoods are covered. Member Crotser
stated he would like to remove the reference to landscaped setbacks in 3.9.6. Member
Meyer suggested wording to make 3.9.6 more general: "noise attenuation measures."
The Task Force agreed.
Member Rowley suggested changing "The City will..." to "The City shall..." in 3.9.7.
The Task Force agreed.
Member Bremer stated he would like to add "bicycles" to 3.9.8.E.
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described in 3.8.4. Member Bremer noted that many people use the Internet for
wayfinding and do not go to the Chamber. He stated that it is best to do wayfinding on
the web and that a statement is needed about developing wayfinding for the City via a
website. This issue goes to the parking lot.
Member Saunders suggested changing "aggressive" to "appropriate" in 3.9.8.C. She
noted that aggressive tourism marketing, such as an advertisement showing people
watching the sunset from the top of Bishop's Peak, is not consistent with the City's
plans.
Member Goetz suggested deleting the wording "to accommodate conferences" in
3.9.8.A.
The Task Force discussed "sea cruises" in 3.9.8.D and it was noted that there is no
potential problem from cruise ships bringing in thousands of visitors because there is no
harbor near the City, unlike Santa Barbara.
On motion by Member Whitney, seconded by Member Brown, to remove the reference
to "sea cruises" in 3.9.8.D.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Goetz, Meyer, Multari, Rowley,
Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Crotser, Dandekar, Quaglino, and Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
The motion passed on an 8:4 vote.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry read 3.9.8.E, adding "bicycles."
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Allan Cooper, SLO, stated that
businesses and the General
businesses, not just tourism.
the City should market itself as a place for high tech
Plan should acknowledge the need to market to
Members Goetz and Rowley agreed with Mr. Cooper. Community Development
Director Johnson stated that the City should develop a program for business
development and expansion related to clusters of tourism, agriculture, high tech,
education, etc. Member Saunders stated she agreed with Mr. Cooper but would not like
it tied to the clusters. Member Rowley stated that another option would be to change
the title of "Tourism" to the broader title of "Economic Development." Member Dandekar
noted the need for diversification of economic activity, especially downtown. Member
Crotser stated that he agreed with Community Development Director Johnson about the
need to develop a separate program.
Member Rowley asked why 3.9.8.8 singles out the Performing Arts Center. Member
Rossi stated that it should be "the City's art community." He noted that Santa Barbara
has successfully woven together the various segments of the art community and that
the City could look to Santa Barbara for guidance in developing that and that this would
result in improvements and upgrades to the downtown area.
On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Bremer. to approve the Commercial
and Industrial Development section of the Land Use Element with the modifications
agreed to above.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
On motion by Member Brown seconded by-Member Rossi to continue the meeting
until 9 p.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Downtown & Discussion of Nightlife Safety, pages 1 -84 through 1 -94.
The Task Force discussed the introduction and agreed to add "as an advisory
document" after the "Conceptual Physical Plan for the City's Center'.
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The Task Force discussed the policies regarding Downtown's Role and agreed to add,
"community's urban center serving as the" prior to "cultural, social, entertainment, and
political center..." Other minor wording changes were agreed to by the Task Force.
After discussion of 4.0 Downtown Residential, the Task Force agreed to delete the last
phrase: "...and help the balance between jobs and housing in the community."
The Task Force discussed the City as an urban center. Member Rossi stated that there
is a demand for an urban lifestyle where people live, work and play in the downtown
area. He noted the importance of keeping movie theaters in the downtown and perhaps
developing multistory theaters. There was consensus to add "entertainment" to the first
sentence of the introductory paragraph in 4— Downtown on page 1 -84 of the Land Use
Element.
Member Goetz suggested adding "families" to the second bullet point in 4.0.1.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested "for a variety of households
sizes." Member Multari stated that the idea was to not emphasize family downtown.
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Member Quaglino asked about the definition of "large commercial project" in the bullet
listed on page 1 -87 of the daft in 4.0.1. Community Development Deputy Director Murry
stated that there is not currently a definition but that this policy guides staff review of
projects. Member Multari stated it is a policy decision as to whether to include
residential in all large commercial projects. Member Rossi noted that many buildings in
the future may end up with mixed use because younger people prefer their own units,
even if the units are very small. Member Quaglino stated that if buildings in the City go
vertical, current policy does not work. Community Development Director Johnson
stated that this should be dealt with when the zoning code is updated. Member
Saunders noted that there are many who cannot afford a traditional home and this could
provide housing although that would depend on who purchased these small units.
Member Rossi noted that it is not possible to control who lives in these units and there
may be a resident who lives in downtown and works in another location such as
Atascadero. Staff offered that a program to allow efficiency units and variable density
would be added to the "Parking Lot ".
The Task Force discussed issues concerning 4.0.2. Task Force members discussed
the relationship between loss of 51% floor area and loss of a dwelling unit. Staff
described that the demolition code defines this threshold. Member Goetz stated that
the language talks about unit - for -unit replacement. Member Meyer stated that the
policy states that the City can lose residential to gain commercial. He also stated that it
would be possible to build three tiny units behind a house and make the house a
business, which is not the intent of the policy. Member Goetz noted that a three -
bedroom house could be replaced with a one - bedroom unit and that this is not the intent
of the policy. Member Saunders stated that there have been cases where three small
units have been turned into one higher end unit. Associate Planner David stated that
the City keeps a cumulative total of unit loss and gain which is consulted when a major
project is proposed. He also noted that the case cited by Member Saunders would
result in a net loss and would have to be made up. Member Rossi stated that there is
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more of a movement to convert offices back into houses than the reverse. Member
Dandekar stated that, overall, the City wants more residential downtown whether it
comes through replacement or density. Member Rossi suggested looking to a policy
that encourages projects by dealing with parking, car sharing and the current fee
structure, which he called punitive. He also suggested considering the addition of two or
three stories of residential to most commercial properties. Member Multari asked if the
1994 bottom line is still relevant and noted the need to be careful about not
inadvertently preventing revitalization. Member Brown stated that he supports the no
net loss policy but figuring out how to do so is complex. Member Meyer suggested
doing something simple, such as requiring some small percentage of growth over time.
Member Dandekar suggested just saying "growth." Member Multari stated that Deputy
Director Murry's analysis is correct in saying that the City does not want the situation to
get any worse and the City would like the baseline to expand. Community Development
Director Johnson stated that other policies encourage development downtown. There
was a consensus that the current language is adequate and no changes are needed.
Member Rossi stated that Santa Barbara has developed an arts district downtown to
encourage cultural and entertainment activities. He noted that Paso Robles, Pismo
Beach and Cal Poly are all looking at developing convention centers and the City should
be on an equal footing with them. He proposed deleting the last sentence of 4.1 to
avoid being too restrictive with language. There was consensus for removing the word
"public" from the first sentence, and "nightclub" and "private" from the second sentence,
and removing the last sentence in 4.1.
Member Multari asked if the Task Force wanted to use stronger language than "should"
such as "nightclubs and movie theaters shall not be anywhere but downtown." Member
Meyer suggested changing the "should' in the second sentence to "shall." Member
Multari withdrew his comment but stated it could be a separate policy saying movie
theaters and nightclubs should be downtown. Member Bremer stated this language
should be part of 4.1. Member Rowley wanted to add the word "movie."
On motion by Member Multari, seconded by Member Crotser, to use lanqua,
ge in 4,1
that states, "Entertainment facilities such as nightclubs and theaters shall only be in the
Downtown."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Multari,
Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar and Quaglino
ABSTAINED: Task Force Member Rossi
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Juhnke, Rademaker, and Richardson
The motion passed on a 9:2 vote.
Allan Cooper, SLO, stated that 4.2 should include "socialization" to promote the
development of spaces for socializing downtown other than just cafes and
coffeehouses.
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The Task Force concurred with this addition.
Member Rowley suggested replacing "exciting' with "interesting" in the first sentence of
4.3. The Task Force was in agreement. The Task Force Members briefly discussed
the bullet points in 4.3 and then agreed to consider this section and come to the next
meeting with their ideas.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
AGENDA FORECAST
1. There will be an additional meeting on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 that is not
shown on the current schedule.
2. The Task Force should be done with the Circulation and Land Use Elements by
the end of November.
3. A workshop is scheduled for December 7, 2013.
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to the City Council in January, 2014. Member Multari stated that if the Task
Force is not done on schedule, those sections that are done could be passed on
to the Planning Commission as it will take time for the Commission to deal with
them.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 20, 2013
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
November 20, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon Goetz, Dave
Juhnke, Mike Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson, Rob Rossi, Sandra
Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre
Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Walter Bremer and Hema Dandekar
Staff: Director of Community Development Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Principal Transportation Manager
Peggy Mandeville, Associate Planner James David, Planning Technician
Eric Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Minutes of November 6, 2013, were approved as presented.
Minutes of November 7, 2013, were approved as amended.
The Task Force reviewed the two changes made to 4.3 Walking Environment at the last
meeting: "well -lit" was added to the first bullet point and "interesting" replaced "exciting."
Member Crotser stated that the wording in the fourth bullet point about new buildings
not obstructing sunlight from reaching sidewalks might restrict infill and the wording
should refer to indirect light. He noted that indirect or bounced light is actually more
comfortable for pedestrians.
Member Multari agreed and stated this issue will come up again in policies.
Member Saunders noted that sunlight, views of the hillsides, and the large street trees
are important Downtown amenities valued by residents.
Member Rossi stated that Palo Alto planted trees with a less leafy canopy.
Member Multari noted that the thick - canopied trees on Higuera Street are much
appreciated by pedestrians in summer.
On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Quaglino, to delete the fourth
bullet point in 4.3 and have staff reformulate the sunlight -guidelines, motion also to
include direction regarding word changes of "well -lit" and "interesting.,'
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AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
Allan Cooper, SLO, stated that the four bullets in 4.3 are not adequate for a friendlier
pedestrian environment. He noted the need for continuity of store fronts and the
integration of public art, street calming and scramble intersections into a general
pedestrian plan.
Community Development Director Johnson noted that the City will be developing a
pedestrian plan. Community Development Deputy Director Murry noted that continuous
storefront is covered in 4.14.3.
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He suggested changing "shall not" to "should not" because realigning streets is a useful
design tool.
Member Multari stated that he wanted to add bullet points to 4.3 based upon Allan
Cooper's ideas, including ones about art and pedestrian paths, scramble crosswalks,
continuous store frontage, etc.
Member Crotser stated that the open spaces with views of the hills in 4.5 Open Places
and Views should not be a primary goal and that, in general, distant views should not be
part of the goals for the Downtown core.
Member Juhnke suggested deleting "many' in the first sentence of 4.5.
Member Rademaker suggested going back to the original wording for street widening in
4.7.
Member Rowley suggested the following wording for 4.6: "The City shall strive to
protect Downtown residential areas from through traffic." There was consensus on this
wording.
After a discussion about 4.8 Parking, there was agreement to retain the wording but
changing "will' to "can."
Member Brown stated that he wanted wording added to 4.9 that says the City shall
develop a master plan for the creek. He also stated that the creek is an unrealized
jewel for the City and should be viewed as urban open space.
Member Meyer stated he would like to see the creek opened up and that maybe
allowances need to be made on setbacks to do that.
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Member Rossi suggested that maybe a different standard for setbacks from the riparian
area is needed for the creek Downtown to encourage desirable redevelopment.
Member Saunders stated that City residents have shown an overwhelming preference
for protecting and enhancing creeks in the City's survey for this Land Use update.
Member Rossi stated that these issues are not contrary and he gave the example of
The Promontory where there had been a rock quarry with no trees or other vegetation
and now the site is like an urban forest with the creek and riparian corridor in a healthier
state.
Member Quaglino noted that the Novo restaurant patio could not exist if a setback from
the creek was in force.
Member Saunders stated that the City has a consistent problem with developers
wanting new development right on the creek.
Member Rademaker noted that you cannot get to the creek due to setbacks below
Broad Street.
There was consensus that there should be a separate program for the creek. The
following wording proposed by Community Development Director Johnson was
accepted: "The City shall develop a Master Plan for the creek in the Downtown area."
Member Rowley suggested adding "the" to the second sentence in 4.9 so it will read
"...degrade the wildlife habitat value...."
Member Crotser stated that 4.11 New Buildings and Views should have wording that
defines where the referred to open spaces really are and that the "such as" examples
should be deleted. He also stated that it is not practical to preserve views from the
Downtown core.
Member Multari agreed and stated that certain locations should be specified that are
appropriate for distant views.
Member Juhnke suggested deleting the middle sentence in 4.11 and keeping the first
and last sentences. He also suggested softening the language.
Member Multari noted that there are certain gathering places where, if the statement
that views cannot be obstructed is taken literally, then nothing could be built there. He
agreed with the deletion of the middle sentence and the use of "should" instead of
"shall."
Member Saunders stated that using "shall respect views" gives a lot of latitude and that
she is concerned about incrementally weakening a statement of value for the views.
Member Rossi stated that building more than two stories may not result in additional
loss of views because the hills cannot be seen except at intersections and by looking
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down streets. He stated that not all Downtown buildings should be six stories but that
solar and visual should not be the sole guidelines for infill and intensification.
Member Rowley stated that 4.11 is only about buildings next to publicly -owned outdoor
gathering places and that the wording only says to take these things into consideration.
On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member Juhnke, to approve the following
wording for 4.11: "Downtown development nearby publicly -owned gathering places
shall respect views of the hills. In other locations Downtown views will be provided
parallel to the street right -of -way, at intersections where building separation naturally
makes more views available, and at upper -level viewing decks."
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino,
Rademaker, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Meyer, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 8:5 vote.
Member Saunders stated that this motion changes a six -year old City Council resolution
and she does not agree to do that.
Member Crotser suggested deleting "vertical scale" and just referring to "context' in the
first sentence of 4.14.4 and using "shall respect' and not "shall not obstruct' in the
second sentence. He also suggested adding "Mid -block connections are strongly
encouraged." to the seventh bullet point in 4.14.4 Building Height.
Community Development Director Johnson suggested this language: "Provide mid -
block or other significant pedestrian connectors. " for the seventh bullet point.
Member Saunders stated that talking about vertical scale is consistent when referring to
multistory buildings and she would like "vertical' left in.
Member Brown suggested that Members consider removing just "vertical."
There was consensus to accept the wording by Community Development Director
Johnson.
Stacey White, SLO, noted that if the City is encouraging density Downtown and has
created a policy to do that, then the City should want to incentivize that density. She
recommended that the language shift from what sounds like penalty to that which
sounds like encouragement.
Member Goetz stated that he wanted to add a bullet about proximity of housing to
transit opportunities with the idea that tall buildings are appropriate when built within a
short distance from transit and with the policy objective of promoting housing near
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transit. He stated that he wants to encourage the linking of transit and higher density
housing.
Member Rademaker stated that "density' is better than "tall buildings ". He noted that, in
the Downtown, everything is close to transit.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the policy objectives listed
are the ones that a tall building project should achieve as community amenities and that
transit was not listed as one.
On motion by Member Goetz seconded bV Member Juhnke to add a bullet point to
4.14.4 about proximity of housing to convenient transit connections.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Rademaker, Richardson, and Rossi,
NOES: Task Force Members Quaglino, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 9:4 vote.
On motion by Member Rossi, seconded by Member Multari, to make two changes to the
first paragraph of 4.14.4 Building Height 1) replace "set back" with "step back ", 2)
replace "60 feet" with "50 feet ", 3) remove "vertical" from the first sentence. and 4)
replace "shall not obstruct" with "shall respect" in the second sentence.
AYES:
Task Force Members,
Richardson, and Rossi
NOES:
Task Force Members
Whitney
RECUSED:
None
ABSENT:
None
The motion passed on a 7:6 vote.
Goetz, Juhnke, Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker,
Brown, Crotser, Meyer, Rowley, Saunders, and
On motion by Member Brawn, seconded by Member Rademaker, to continue the
meeting until 9 a.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
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Member Saunders stated that the Downtown Concept Plan is not a General Plan and
thus it does not go through review and does not have to be followed although a concept
plan is sometimes treated as a General Plan. She stated that there is a real question as
to how to treat a concept plan.
Member Rademaker stated that it is more of a Downtown suggestion plan and does not
need an EIR because it is not a project.
Member Goetz noted that it is also not a specific plan.
Member Rossi stated it is like the Railroad District Plan in that it gives a tone to future
development.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that a concept plan provides a bigger
picture but is not used as a standard or measurement to evaluate projects.
Member Saunders stated that she thinks some things go through the Planning
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Community Development Director Johnson noted that the Implementation section of the
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Member Juhnke suggested putting a comma at the end of the sentence in 4.17 and
adding "including public input." Member Saunders stated that this was acceptable.
After a discussion about using "shall pursue" in 4.20 Expansion of Downtown Plaza, the
Task Force agreed to replace it with "shall explore."
On motion by Member Rademaker, seconded by Member Juhnke, to approve the
Proqrams section with the above noted changes.
AYES: Task Force Members Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Nightlife and Public Safety:
Member Rowley noted that there is an overconcentration of bars in the Downtown. She
explained that several decades ago it was concluded that it was too difficult for the
City's police to respond to incidents at bars that were spread throughout the City and
the solution was to concentrate them in the Downtown core. She expressed concern
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that an unintended consequence of restricting the number of bars Downtown may be a
recurrence of the policing problem.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that there are areas where bars are
not allowed and that the need for a use permit gives the City a great deal of discretion
about location.
Member Rowley stated that the City has never said no to an alcohol establishment
despite having tools like a 30 -day period in which the City can object on grounds such
as crime in the area.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that there are new regulations that
give the City control when dealing with bars and nightclubs although restaurants are
allowed by right unless they serve alcohol after 11 p.m. He noted that only 3 -5% of bars
and nightclubs are problematic.
Member Brown stated the item is about safety and that he supports the safety
programs. There is an additional issue of the concentration of bar /nightclubs on other
commercial /retail businesses and the livability of Downtown as we work to encourage
people to live Downtown through encouraging mixed -use development.
Community Development Director Johnson suggested using this wording: "The City
shall evaluate uses ... the alcohol sales and services to ensure there is a vibrant mix of
uses Downtown." He noted that Santa Barbara segregates Downtown uses according
to whether it is a daytime or nighttime use. He also stated that many of the bars and
nightclubs Downtown were there before there was any regulation and, when the State
passed legislation about overconcentration, it meant some areas were instantly over
concentrated.
Member Rowley stated that it did not help when the State dropped the 51 % food sales
requirement for the less precise term "substantial food."
Member Juhnke stated that the title "Nightlife Safety' is not a good fit when the issue is
vibrancy of the Downtown.
Member Brown added that it makes sense to have a declarative policy related to the
commercial vibrancy of Downtown and that any new policies about Nightlife Safety need
to have consideration for the City's goal of attracting new Downtown
residential /commercial mixed use.
Member Multari stated that he does not like any of the three policies presented on
Nightlife Safety and that there should be an overall policy that says the Downtown is to
be safe and pleasant at all times. He noted the possibility for two policies, one about
safety and one about vibrancy. He also noted the difficulty in monitoring restaurants
that serve alcohol and that reducing the number of bars and nightclubs Downtown
would not reduce the number of customers. Member Multari suggested a new program:
"The City shall work with the Downtown businesses and residents, the BID, and
Chamber of Commerce to manage impacts from downtown drinking establishments,
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and if necessary, enact additional regulations to ensure that the late night environment
in and near Downtown is safe and pleasant."
Member Rademaker stated he would like to see a mix of uses Downtown like that
during the monthly Art After Dark event. He noted that it is not productive that shops
close at 5:30 p.m.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry summarized the Task Force direction
regarding new policies and new programs.
Member Multari stated that tying the City to the State's ABC process is a mistake and
that it is better to utilize use permits and develop criteria for evaluating their issuance.
Member Rowley stated that she would like to have a chance to study the wording
proposed by Member Multari, Community Development Director Johnson, and
Community Development Deputy Director Murry.
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There were no comments made from the public.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETINGS: MONDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 2013, 6 P.M.
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 26, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
November 25, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Rob Rossi, Sandra
Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre
Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Hema Dandekar and Chris Richardson
Staff: Community Development Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Associate Planner James David,
Planning Technician Eric Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane
Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Minutes of November 14, 2013, were approved as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Stephen Whitaker, San Luis Drive neighborhood, SLO, stated that he does not share
the City's vision for upper Monterey Street and he strongly objects to more and bigger
hotels, outdoor restaurant dining, and the consolidation of lots. He also stated that he
wants to know how the eight points that affect his neighborhood got into the plan for
upper Monterey Street.
Ron Tilley, San Luis Drive neighborhood, SLO, stated that any development on
Monterey Street that backs up to the creek results in loss of privacy for the residences.
Joan Collier, San Luis Drive neighborhood, SLO, stated that she is opposed to outdoor
dining and enhanced pedestrian walkways, and the development of a Cal Poly
conference center.
Hana Novak, San Luis Drive neighborhood, SLO, listed several concerns of the property
owners in her neighborhood, including the impact on safety, privacy, noise levels, and
intrusive lighting that more restaurants and outdoor dining would bring. She stated that
San Luis Drive residents already have to deal with noise generated by commercial
trucks that deliver to the Quality Inn Suites at all hours and sit with engines idling at
night. She stated that the residents would like to see greater setbacks, a study of the
impacts that the proposed General Plan would have on the neighborhood, a
specification of what "suitable size" means in reference to lot consolidation, and a
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statement of the benefit of lot assemblage. She noted that the neighborhood is
concerned that larger lots will allow for greater density and thus greater impact for
residents living across the creek. She stated that the residents would prefer smaller
boutique hotels with smaller footprints and therefore less impact and an adequate buffer
between residential and commercial on Upper Monterey Street. She noted that there is
concern that property values would be affected by development. She stated that the
residents in the area want to participate in the Monterey Area Plan. She submitted a
letter detailing all of the concerns.
Debra Farwell, SLO, stated that she lives on Palm Street and is a lifelong resident of the
neighborhood which has evolved into a less pleasant place with vandalism, heavy
drinking by young pedestrians and an increasing amount of vehicular traffic.
There were no further comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
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Task Force Member Saunders stated that she does not support the new program Cl 4
provided in the transmittal memo which directs the City to implement the Economic
Development Strategic Plan and other strategies for business retention and expansion.
During a discussion of ecotourism and the revised Tourism program (3.9.8), she noted
that the City has an ordinance specifically forbidding tourism businesses from using City
open spaces.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve all
of the Commercial & Industrial Development changes, except Cl 4, listed on page 19 of
the Transmittal Memorandum for this meetina.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve Cl 4
as presented on page 19 of the Transmittal Memorandum for this meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote
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Outstanding issues: Downtown
Member Brown suggested replacing "over' with "rather than" in DT 2 to read "City shall
promote a healthy mix of downtown street -level businesses that emphasizes retail
stores, specialty shops and food service rather than bars or taverns."
Member Juhnke stated that it would be better not to list the possible criteria in DT 7
which addresses use permits for late night drinking establishments because the City
might want to change these criteria in the future. He suggested putting a period after
"late night drinking establishments" and eliminating the list of criteria.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to put a period
after "late night drinking establishments" and delete the list of criteria in DT 7.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Mu,ltari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, and Saunders
NOES: Task Force Member Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 12:1 vote.
After the vote Member Rademaker stated that DT 7 is a document that guides policy
and that the criteria will be developed as part of the public hearing process. Member
Rowley agreed that it was better to have DT 7 provide direction but not specific criteria.
Debra Farwell, SLO, stated that she is concerned about the number and size of
establishments serving alcohol in the downtown area.
Member Quaglino stated that "shall consider" should be replaced with "shalt' in DT 8
regarding updating the zoning regulations to allow efficiency units and variable density
Downtown because he supports a more forceful statement to encourage changing the
City's downtown housing regulations and zoning.
On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Crotser, to replace "shall
consider" with "shall" in DT 8.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 11:2 vote.
On motion by Member Rademaker and seconded by Member Brown to approve the
remaining items in the Downtown section of the Transmittal Memorandum for this
meeting as presented with the exception of replacing "ovef with "rather than_' in DT 2.
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AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Safety - related Policies and Programs
Committee:
During a discussion about Crime Prevention through Environmental Design, Member
Rossi noted the importance of keeping lights on in stores at night because it changes
the way people view the street. He stated that when lights are out, it creates "housing"
and "restrooms" in doorways and other recessed, unlit areas. Member Rademaker
stated that most alcoves have to do with ADA requirements for store entrances but that
this does create places to hide. Community Development Director Johnson suggested
this wording: "Enhanced lighting of storefronts and alcoves required in buildings in the
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Association to get stores to leave lights on at night. Member Multari stated that the
point is to encourage a behavioral change by working with business owners and
landlords via the Downtown Association. He suggested a separate program be
developed.
Member Saunders stated that the bullet point about wayfinding could attract people to
an area or park intended for a neighborhood. Member Bremer stated that this bullet
point is about avoiding the problem of visitors feeling uncomfortable and getting lost in
an unfamiliar city due to lack of signage. Member Juhnke agreed that wayfinding
signage is important for pedestrian visitors to the downtown. Member Meyer noted that
the bullet point does not specify "downtown." Member Rademaker suggested adding
"downtown area" to the bullet point.
Member Rowley stated that the title "Safety- related Policies and Programs" should be
changed. Member Juhnke suggested "Enhanced Safety - related Policies and
Programs. "
Public:
Debra Farwell, SLO, stated that the City needs to think about crime in relationship to
tourism because tourists often end up in locations with the highest crime, such as
certain areas along the creek.
Committee:
Member Rossi stated that these areas will be difficult to police until the City has more
housing downtown. Member Quaglino stated that lighting along the creek is a tradeoff
between disturbing wildlife and preventing crime. He asked if it would be appropriate to
add "to enhance lighting along the creek." Community Development Deputy Director
Murry noted appropriate lighting would be addressed as part of the master plan to be
developed for the creek.
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Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested this wording: "The City will
modify its community guidelines to enhance Safety and Crime Prevention through
Environmental Design. The second bullet would be modified to read, "Wayfinding signs
to better direct pedestrians and motorists in non - residential areas."
Member Rowley stated that she wants to change the order of the bullet points for
"Crime Prevention through Environmental Design" with "Visibility into entry and access
points on non - residential buildings" becoming the first bullet point.
On motion_ by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve the
Safety - related Policies and section on pages 3-4 of the Transmittal
Memorandum for this meeting with these changes 1) the Crime Prevention Through
Environmental Design program to read as suggested above, 2) the order of the bullets
in the same program be changed so that "Visibility into entry and access points on non-
residential buildings" be the first bullet, 3) that the next program will read "The City,
working with the Downtown Association, businesses, landlords and residents will
develop emergency callboxes at strategic locations in the Downtown" and 4) adding a
program that states "The City, working with the Downtown Association, Downtown
businesses, and residents shall develop a program to encourage lighted storefronts and
street frontages throughout the night."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Land Use Element — Public and Cultural Facilities
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the City's General Plan
supports San Luis Obispo being the hub of cultural and governmental services in the
County and that the original intent of grouping services was to encourage the synergy of
co- location. Community Development Director Johnson added that the policies and
map are designed to guide developers. Member Goetz stated that, since the purpose is
the grouping of similar services, 5.1.1 should say "The City shall support the continued
grouping of government offices that provide similar types of services for efficient service
delivery."
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested "The City shall encourage
agencies to consider joint projects when mutual objectives can be met." for 5.1.2.
After a discussion about the wording of 5.1.5, the Task Force supported updated
language to state, "The City shall promote the location of the following uses in a social
services area in the general vicinity of South Higuera Street near Prado Road: County
Social and Homeless Services, ... ".
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Member Meyer stated that there should be a statement indicating that peripheral
locations outside the downtown area should be pursued for service vehicle storage.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested that this be included as
point C in 5.1.6 Other Governmental Functions. This was accepted by the Task Force.
Member Rowley stated that the last two sentences of 5.1.12 regarding dwellings have
been deleted but were not transferred to Table 1, beginning on page 1 -21 of the Land
Use Element. Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested it be retained
in 5.1.12 and that this section be renamed because it is specific to dwellings. The Task
Force agreed to this change and named the policy "Dwellings ".
Member Meyer stated that 5.2.1 may be outdated as the library has already been built.
He also stated that the reference to "sciences" may not be needed. Member Crotser
suggested that the following wording replace the language in 5.2.1: "The City shall
cooperate with other agencies and with community groups to help provide facilities
which meet broad community cultural needs." This change was accepted by the Task
Force.
Member Brown suggested shortening 5.2.2 to read "The City shall promote the area
around Mission Plaza for cultural facilities and activities."
Member Juhnke stated that the programs in 5.5 and 5.6 are more like policies. He
stated that 5.5 should stand alone as a policy and 5.6 could be added to 5.2.1. Member
Rademaker stated that 5.6 actively directs something to be done so it is a program.
Member Juhnke noted that 5.8 is the only place in the General Plan where direction to
support public art is covered. The Task Force agreed to revise the wording of 5.8
slightly and to move it and 5.6 to the policy part of Public and Cultural Facilities chapter.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Crotser, to change the
wording of 5.8 to read "The City shall continue to encourage inclusion of public art in all
proiects as appropriate."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
policies and programs in the Public and Cultural Facilities chapter as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
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The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Brown_, and seconded by Member Crotser, to continue the
meeting until 9 p.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Land Use Element— Resource Protection
Community Development Deputy Director Murry noted that staff recommends retaining
6.1.1 and 6.1.2 because they provide direction not captured in the land use designation
purpose statements in Table 1. This was accepted by the Task Force.
Member Bremer suggested that "terrain" be added after "viewshed' and before
"hillsides" to the list on the third line of the second paragraph of 6.0.2.
Member Saunders stated that 6.0.3 should be retained because it indicates a
commitment to the value of resource mapping. She read a letter from the Sierra Club
which supports retention. After a discussion it was agreed that 6.0.3 be retained as an
addition 6.0.2 to explain the purpose of the resource mapping.
Member Bremer suggested that "cultural' replace "traditionaf' in the third sentence of
6.1.1 because it is more accurate. This was accepted by the Task Force.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the Land Use Element Map
currently contains properties with the designation of Interim Open Space. The
transmittal memo describes these properties in pages 4 -8 and the Task Force is being
asked for direction regarding whether the properties should be designated as added
Special Focus Areas.
Member Saunders stated she was concerned that 1.12.7.E (Interim Open Space area
off of Foothill) and the associated policy direction for that area were moved or
eliminated. She noted that Interim Open Space is a classification that is supposed to
provide some flexibility and eliminating it will eliminate that flexibility. Member Goetz
noted that new case law may create issues in that classifying a property as Interim
Open Space could result in lawsuits as a "taking" of property. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry stated that the update is an opportunity to develop policies for
these properties that indicate desired outcomes for the areas. Member Juhnke stated
he supports the elimination of Interim Open Space. Member Saunders stated that this
is acceptable if there is assurance that every direction and qualification for each
property is carried forward. Member Multari stated that each property would be
discussed and decided upon individually. It was agreed to put the Alrita property with
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Bella Montana and the CalFire /Cal Poly properties in the parking lot and provide
direction to staff as to what should be done with them.
Member Saunders suggested changing the first sentence of 6.2.2 to retain the word
"establish" prior to the word "maintain" so that the sentence begins, "The City shall
establish and maintain clear development lines...." This was accepted by the Task
Force.
Member Saunders stated that she wanted to remove the first sentence of 6.2.6 for more
flexibility. Member Rademaker agreed but there was no further discussion from the
remainder of the Task Force.
Member Quaglino noted a minor typographical correction in the second sentence of
6.2.6.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that there is still a 2.5 acre
buildable site covered under 6.2.7.B and staff recommends deleting the Specific Plan
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any vacant land near Woodland Drive shall address the following:"
Community Development Deputy Director Murry indicated that the direction for the listed
hillside areas is still strong and provides the policy support for Specific Plans and other
areas. Minor amendments to the Orcutt Area are proposed because open space
easements have already been secured for the hill within that Specific Plan area.
Member Multari announced a potential conflict of interest for the Luneta Drive area and
left the room.
Member Quaglino stated that the use of the term "houses" in 6.2.7.K seems strange.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that it should be "housing."
On motion by Member Quaglino, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve 6.2.7.J
and 6.2.7.K as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Multari
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Richardson
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Member Multari rejoined the meeting.
Member Rowley asked if any thought had been given to a new zoning category called
"Undeveloped Land." Members discussed the value of land use designations and the
desire to provide guidance regarding future development expectations through
designations or policy direction. .
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Member Rowley suggested changing "will' to "shall' in 6.3.1. Member Brown suggested
another change so that 6.3.1 would read "Subdivision approval in hillside planning areas
shall include designation of 'sensitive sites,' which shall be subject to architectural
review." These changes were accepted by the Task Force.
Member Saunders read part of a letter from the Sierra Club about 6.3.3. She noted that
it is better to err on the side of protecting hillsides which is what the public indicated was
valued through the Community Survey. Community Development Deputy Director
Murry explained that the Community Design Guidelines do not address hillside
development with the same language that is used in 6.3.3. She noted that 6.3.3 could
be retained and updated to replace "Architectural Guidelines" with "Community Design
Guidelines." Member Bremer suggested that 6.3.3 should say "the City presumes"
instead of "the City will establish the presumption" which Member Rademaker called
Victorian language. These changes were accepted by the Task Force.
Member Rowley stated she would like to retain the section Maximum Building Height
program as guidance. Task Force members discussed whether it was needed if it
exists within the Design Guidelines and ultimately supported retaining the program
language by adding it to 6.3.3 and replacing the word "houses" with the word
"structures."
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the
Resource Protection chapter as amended
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar, Richardson, and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: NOVEMBER 26, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
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November 26, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Chuck Crotser, Hema Dandekar, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson,
Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre
Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Member Russell Brown and Rob Rossi
Staff: Director of Community Development Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Community Development Kim Murry, Associate Planner James David,
Planning Technician Eric Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane
Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
No minutes were presented for review.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
6.4 Creeks, Wetlands and Flooding Policies
Member Rowley suggested changing the wording of the third sentence in 6.4 from
"Creeks, which are the most obvious of these systems because they flow through the
City..." to "Creeks, which are the most obvious of these systems because they flow
under and through the City...." This change was accepted by the Task Force.
Member Rademaker stated he would like Figure 8 on page 1 -113 modified to lighten the
flood hazard areas so that street names can be seen through the shading.
Member Rowley suggested the deletion of the word "previously' in the first sentence of
6.4.1.D.
Member Saunders read changes suggested by the Sierra Club for 6.4.5: 1) add "new
development" to "Parking lots and paved outdoor storage areas," 2) add measures
suggested by the Sierra Club to facilitate percolation including "rain gardens, vegetated
bioswales, constructed wetlands, and /or trees planted with mulched root zones."
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Members discussed the appropriate level of detail for a General Plan policy. Members
supported the title change suggested by the Sierra Club for 6.4.5: "Runoff Reduction
and Groundwater Recharge." There was agreement about changing two occurrences in
6.4.5 of "porous" to "pervious." The Task Force discussed changes to the existing
language and discussed concepts of hardscape and where this policy might apply.
Task Force members agreed to remove references to porous paving because it is only
one strategy and that 6.4.5 be reduced to one sentence: "The City shall encourage the
use of methods to facilitate rainwater percolation for outdoor hardscaped and roof areas
where practical to reduce surface water runoff and aid in groundwater recharge." This
was accepted by the Task Force.
Member Saunders stated that she would like to retain 6.5.1.A -D. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the City Engineer recommended
elimination of A -D because the provisions are too specific for the General Plan.
Community Development Director Johnson stated that flood plain management is fairly
comprehensive and more expansive than what is in the General Plan. Other
suggestions were to delete "new" before "development' and change the title "Previously
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as it might imply that the City would require some performance from existing
development.
On motion by Member Crotser, seconded by Member gugglino to re lace the words
"Previously developed" with "urbanized" in the first paragraph and to delete A -D in the
existing policy.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that a new Flood Protection
Program has been developed at the request of the Task Force to read, "The City shall
evaluate the feasibility of establishing a financing district or districts to address flood
concerns in affected areas. Cost and benefits will be weighed in relation to the cost of
flood insurance for affected property owners. "Task Force Members were in support and
suggested applying this in other areas of the City such as the mid - Higuera area.
Member Multari noted that there are parts of the City where a financing district does not
make sense, and therefore there should be consideration of multiple financing districts.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve
Resource Protection programs as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
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NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Special Focus Areas
Member Multari stated that the property on the north side of Foothill and the Alrita
property need to have some direction about density. Member Rademaker noted that a
sloped property would affect the density calculation. Member Rowley stated she was
not comfortable with dealing with the density when the Task Force does not have
enough information. Member Juhnke shared this concern. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry stated that staff will bring these properties back to the Task Force
with some additional information.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to endorse the
approach to replace the Interim Open Space zoning with policy direction as part of
Special Focus areas for all the properties except the Alrita property and the property on
the north side of Foothill.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on an 11:2 vote.
Member Rowley stated that she did not support the motion because there had not been
notification of nor testimony by property owners and owners of adjacent properties, and
approving the motion above would give the erroneous impression that this has been
done. Member Saunders stated that she strongly supports Member Rowley's view and
that approval takes away the right to participate in the decision - making process for
property owners. Community Development Director Johnson noted that the Task Force
recommendation is endorsing a concept for how to address these properties, that
changing a land use designation is a multistep process, and that the City will notify the
owners of upcoming actions.
Special Focus Areas
Member Meyer stated that Special Focus Areas includes both Specific Plan Areas and
other areas that do not rise to the level of needing specific plans but for which additional
policy guidance is desired.
Member Rowley suggested deleting "achieve their respective development potential' in
the last paragraph of the Introduction on page 1 -123. Members discussed clarifying the
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two types of focus areas into two paragraphs and there was debate over the wording
but no decision was made.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
Special Focus Areas introduction section as amended to include the addition of
"environmental site constraints" to A. and to split the last paragraph on page 1 -123 into
two with the second paragraph beginning, "The additional special planning areas... ".
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on a 10:2 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Marshal Ochylski, representing a development, stated that he has concern about the
basic layout of the performance standard charts because of a potential conflict between
the minimum percentage and the range of minimum to maximum shown. He stated that
the City needs to make sure there is no conflict.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Margarita Area Specific Plan
Member Multari suggested this future development potential of the Margarita Area
would be better dealt with as a Specific Plan amendment unless further information can
be provided. Member Rowley agreed this should be part of the Specific Plan update
process. Community Development Director Johnson stated that the General Plan
direction for the original Margarita Area Specific Plan allowed for higher density which
was reduced after negotiations with the Airport Land Use Commission. With this update
the area was identified as being able to accommodate additional density so the Special
Focus Area should provide an idea of what density might be supported. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that this would be a chance to determine
what should be studied in the EIR for this area. Member Multari suggested that, rather
than put numbers in now, a policy should be added to consider this area potentially
appropriate for additional housing. He also noted that this area does not need the
100,000 square feet of commercial since the entire City already has a great deal of land
designated as commercial.
On motion by Member Multad, and seconded by Member Crotser, to revise the MASP
section to state, "The City shall consider the Margarita Area Specific Plan as potentially
appropriate for additional residential development."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
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RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:0 vote.
Dalidio Specific Plan Area
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the Land Use Element
should contain direction for the type and intensity of development that might be
appropriate for the site if this area becomes part of the City. She noted that Task Force
direction regarding agricultural uses and open space has been incorporated into the
performance standards.
Member Multari suggested 1) "Neighborhood commercial' should replace "Community'
in the second bullet from the bottom of page 130 and 2) language should be added that
states the EIR should look at both an overpass and an interchange for Prado Road.
Member Juhnke agreed with Mr. Ochylski about the percentages shown in the chart and
proposed this wording: "suggested percentage of site." Member Multari stated that the
community wants 50% minimum for open space and that the percentages for other uses
is up to the Specific Plan. He noted that stating this is redundant but lets the community
know that their wishes have not been forgotten.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Rachel Kovesdi, SLO, asked that a hotel be considered for the Dalidio property. She
stated the hotel component is more important than general commercial uses.
Mr. Ochylski requested minor adjustments to the Performance Standards chart on page
1 -131: 1) remove the percentages, 2) change the maximum allowable housing units to
500, 3) change commercial to 220,000 square feet, and 4) clarify that a hotel use with
approximately 150 units would be allowed. Member Multari stated that the square
footage for offices should be reduced commensurate with increased commercial. Mr.
Ochylski stated he would rather give up commercial and keep office space.
John Wilbanks, RRM Design Group, representing Dalidio, stated he would like to add a
footnote indicating that some portion of open space requirements could be allowed
offsite. Member Rademaker supported keeping the 50% open space as a deal made
with the public. Member Rowley agreed and stated that the 50% was a commitment.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Member Crotser asked if agricultural buffers could be counted as part of the land
reserved for agriculture /open space. Community Development Deputy Director Murry
confirmed that the 50% open space is calculated exclusive of any required buffering for
agricultural uses and that buffers could be incorporated into the site design.
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Members discussed the concept of off -site mitigation for open space requirements with
a variety of concerns: amount of trade suitable to be provided off -site; quality of off -site
land being offered; process to consider such a trade -off and that Council currently has
authority to consider such policy decisions.
Can motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Bremer, to change the chart
to allow 500 maximum units for housing, leave the commercial at 200,000 sq. ft.
maximum, change office to office /high tech, remove maximum acreage for parks, allow
visitor serving u to 150 rooms change bullets to letters change community serving to
neighborhood commercial, and provide clarifying language regarding rding Prado Road
infrastructure.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
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The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Multari and seconded bV Member WhitneV, that offsite
mitigations for the 50% open space not be allowed.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino,.Rademaker, Richardson
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote.
Member Quaglino stated that there may be some wonderful opportunity in offsite
mitigation. Member Dandekar stated that some flexibility was needed. Member Multari
noted the possibility for wetlands mitigation and the ability to have a multiplier so that
additional sensitive areas were protected.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Richardson, to add a footnote
to the chart stating that in appropriate circumstances it may be acceptable to substitute
not more than ten percent of required open space off -site.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Quaglino, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Dandekar, Meyer, Multari, Rademaker,
Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion failed on a 5:8 vote.
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Member Richardson stated that allowing offsite mitigation would give the City an
opportunity to examine possibilities. Member Saunders stated that this is extraordinarily
sensitive because it is contrary to what the community thought it would get. Member
Bremer stated that the problem is that the footnote would be too open -ended and that
the City could lose the open space. He stated that a definition of who would do the
evaluation should be included. Member Multari stated that the language has to be about
a ratio of offsite mitigation, such as 5:1 in which the lost open space on site is mitigated
with something five times as large. Member Goetz stated that the Task Force should
not be concerned about the percentage because the Planning Commission and the City
Council will deal with this. Member Dandekar stated that the multiplier is important.
Member Multari stated that some policy direction for the minimum acceptable needs to
be provided, hence the ratio.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Mr. Marshall stated that he is concerned about creating a standard that is not workable
He expressed concern about judging the quality of what the developer brings forward
and stated that this judgment has to be in the context of the development plan.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Member Saunders noted that the City Council can choose to consider off -site open
space now but that the policy direction needed to reflect community values.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to add a
footnote to the chart stating that in appropriate circumstances it may be acceptable to
substitute not more than a small portion of on -site open space for offsite open space.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Quaglino, Rademaker, and
Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Dandekar, Meyer, Multari, Rowley,
Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion failed on a 6:7 vote.
The Task Force acknowledged that they would not come to agreement on the issue of
off -site open space and agreed to move on.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Goetz, to continue the
meeting until 9 p.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Upper Monterey
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that in response to concerns
expressed by San Luis Drive neighbors, staff recommended adding clarifying language
regarding the intent of the policies for Upper Monterey. The language "oriented toward
Monterey Street and buffered from the creek area" was suggested for to 8.2.2.4, and
language to 8.2.2.8 to clarify that the pedestrian enhancement is along Monterey Street
and not along the creek. In addition, she referenced Ordinance 1130, a copy of which
was sent to the Task Force in the afternoon, which contains development setbacks.
Member Multari asked if safety is on the list of things to protect. He suggested adding
language that limits the consolidation of lots to those areas below California Street to
8.2.2.7.
Member Saunders stated that environmental interests have been left out of 8.2.2.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Stephen Whitaker, SLO, representing Joan Collier who spoke at the last Task Force
meeting and 35 other property owners along the creek and over 100 more residents in
the neighborhood, stated that the neighborhood is opposed to consolidation of the lots
near Highway 101 that are as much as three times as deep as they are wide. He stated
that he appreciates the 1989 ordinance but that a much larger buffer is needed.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Member Quaglino stated that increasing the size of the setback will not solve the
problem but that he sympathized with the neighborhood about this issue. Member
Crotser stated that stricter design and enforcing performance standards should address
this issue. Member Multari stated that the ordinance should be evaluated to improve
enforcement. Member Saunders noted that "medium" has been deleted in 8.2.2.6 so
the constraint on a larger conference facility is gone.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Whitney, to approve
recommended wording changes for 8.2.2 and include safety to the list of items to be
addressed in a master olan. and inclusion of residents in adionina areas as well as
business and property owners in developing the master plan for the area.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
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The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Whitaker stated that this motion achieves nothing that was asked for because
outdoor dining is still allowed and there is no mechanism to amend the 1989 ordinance
to make it different and stronger.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to include evaluation
of Ordinance 1130 as part of the master plan and design guideline development.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Madonna on LOVR Specific Plan Area
In response to a question from Member Goetz, Community Development Deputy
Director Murry stated that there would be connections to surrounding open space and
existing trails but that so far there are no onsite trails.
Member Multari stated that a maximum of 50% of the site should be for open space and
agriculture, and parks should be included.
Member Quaglino asked if this site would be perfect for a hotel. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry responded that the physical alternative endorsed
by City Council did not include a hotel.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Mr. Wilbanks stated he was in agreement with the City's approach to this site and
questioned whether a hotel would be permitted in a commercial zone. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that hotels are not allowed in neighborhood
commercial. Member Multari suggested making the designation CN /CR to allow
flexibility.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
On matron by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Juhnke, to delete the
percentages for 8.1.5 except the 50% for open space /agriculture and assign the
designation CN /CR.
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AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown, Rossi and Saunders
The motion passed on a 11:1 vote.
Avila Ranch Specific Plan Area
Member Goetz asked whether the housing provision in the first bullet point of 8.1.6 is
different than the City's inclusionary housing requirement. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry stated that it was different and that having affordability met onsite
results in a mix of affordability levels in one large area. Member Goetz noted that it
would be very expensive to build the extremely low income housing without City
subsidy. Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that, like the Orcutt
Area Plan, this plan does not rule out use of affordable housing funds but does say
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Member Multari asked why the percentage for open space /agricultural is lower here.
He also noted that the minimum acreage for parks seems very large. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry responded that the current Airport Area Specific
Plan has in lieu fees and identified agricultural buffers on this site. She noted that this
site is not currently designated as a location for housing.
It was suggested that the ninth bullet point be reworded to say "connections to the Bob
Jones trail."
Community Development Director Johnson stated that because the uses being
proposed are inconsistent with the Airport Specific Plan, the City is looking for guidance
in how to amend that plan.
PUBLIC COMMENT
Stephen Peck supported the deletion of the percentage column in the chart. He
suggested a mix of agricultural and open spaces with buffers to the north and west for
noise and views. He stated that this area does not have good soil and that agriculture
has its own impacts on residential so parks and roads should be included instead.
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Member Goetz stated that he supports affordable housing but it is too much of a burden
as stated in the first bullet point of 8.1.6. He stated that this should say "The
development shall be designed to provide a variety of housing types and affordability
levels" and the rest of the sentence should be deleted.
On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Junke to add a 'bullet point to
indicate provision of a neighborhood park, to modify the Airport Area Specific Plan to
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either exclude the area or designate it as a special planning area with the AASP, to
remove the percentages make this area plan consistent with others by providing for a
minimum 50% for open space /agricultural but include an asterisk noting that up to one -
third may be provided offsite or through in lieu fees consistent with the Airport Specific
Plan, open space requirement can be reduced to 30% if RHNA housing affordability
levels are met on -site, shorten the first bullet point with a period after "affordability
levels," add "open space" on the first line of the third bullet.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Members Brown, Rossi, Rowley and Saunders
The motion passed on a 11:0 vote.
Special Planning Areas
Member Multari stated that the Introduction needs work and should read "will require
property owners to prepare plans." He stated that "multimodal circulation as well as
infrastructure as needed or appropriate to site" needs to be included, in addition to a
statement indicating the City may provide incentives other than loans. He noted that
other issues that need to be considered include circulation on Foothill and Sana Rosa,
fixing the intersections of Chorro and Broad with Foothill, and connections to Cal Poly.
He also included the need to deal with elements that serve the surrounding
neighborhood and the Cal Poly community. Member Rademaker stated that including
Cal Poly is important. Member Meyer noted that Cal Poly is looking for non - alcoholic
entertainment options for students.
On motion by Member Whitney, and seconded by Member Multari to adjourn the
meeting.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer, Multari,
Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Bremer (left at 8:30 p.m.), Brown, Rossi, Rowley
and Saunders
The motion passed on a 10:0 vote.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: DECEMBER 4, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
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Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
December 4, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Hema Dandekar, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Mike Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson, Rob
Rossi, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice- Chairperson
Pierre Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Member Chuck Crotser
Staff: Community Development
Community Development
Planning Technician Eric
Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Kim Murry, Associate Planner James David,
Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Minutes of November 20, 2013, were approved as amended; minutes of November 25,
2013, and November 26, 2013, were continued.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Member Multari stated that the impacts on the surrounding neighborhoods should be
added to the language about the CalFire /Cal Poly property on Highway 1.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded bV Member Brawn to approve the
language about the CalFire /Cal Poly property, North side of Foothill (Bishop Knoll), and
the Alrita properties as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote
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Community Development Deputy Director Murry noted that the letter from Richard
Schmidt had been distributed to all Task Force Members.
8.2 Special Planning Areas
Member Rowley asked if "participation in the installation or financing of infrastructure"
meant that funds provided by the City would be returned by the developer. Community
Development Director Johnson stated that the City might participate in funding
infrastructure if it was determined that the infrastructure was a community -wide benefit
rather than a project- specific requirement. Member Multari stated that the proposed
language is more practical than the old language because it reflects what is actually
done and the details would be worked out for a particular project if the city decides to
participate. Member Saunders stated that this would be a new cost to the City.
Member Juhnke noted that City funding could be an incentive for redevelopment that
the City wants.
8.2.1 Foothill Boulevard /Santa Rosa Area
Member Whitney stated that she wants to remove "and the Cal Poly community" and
"student- oriented," and change "student (pedestrian and bike) access" to "predominant
pedestrian and bike access" so that 8.2.1 refers only to the neighborhood.
Member Meyer stated that "The eastern edge of the property area shall focus on retail
and housing" is confusing. Member Multari suggested deleting the sentence. Members
agreed.
Member Rowley noted that "existing commercial properties west of Broad Street" should
refer to Chorro Street, not Broad Street.
Member Rowley stated that further reducing parking in this area would be detrimental
because Cal Poly students living in residential projects will have cars. Member Juhnke
stated that the reference to parking was about commercial, not residential, and 8.2.1
only refers to potential evaluation of parking.
Member Rowley stated that it was presumptive to include "consideration of improving
the existing complex intersections of Foothill /Chorro /Broad' because the City Council
has not approved the realignment of the intersections. Member Juhnke stated that it
was only about evaluating the intersections. Community Development Deputy Director
Murry stated that referring to it in 8.2.1 simply indicates a need to address it.
Member Saunders stated that Mr. Schmidt's letter pointed out a major deficit in the
process which is that no one from affected neighborhoods is in attendance at the TF
LUCE meetings where their future is being planned. She noted that if Council- directed
meetings had been held in neighborhoods, the Task Force would have been able to
hear the concerns of residents directly. She noted that it is not enough to reassure
residents by saying they will become part of the process later. She stated that meetings
where residents from any neighborhood could drop in and out at any time was not
enough. She stated that this is a lost opportunity to include residents. Members
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Rademaker and Meyer noted that meetings have been held and few or no residents
attend. Member Dandekar stated that the process for approving plans includes resident
participation and hearings. She stated that she is sympathetic to Member Saunders'
issue but that the Task Force is only creating a list of issues for consideration not doing
actual project review.
On motion by Member Juhnkee, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the
section as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Saunders
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13:1 vote.
Mid - Higuera
Member Rowley asked whether this development plan will interfere with any current
uses around the CalTrans property and whether this convention center use would fill the
same need as the one for the Upper Monterey area. Member Meyer stated that no one
would be put out of business. Member Rademaker stated he preferred "conference
centee' rather than "convention center" which sounds much more large scale. Member
Multari stated that 8.2.4 should include consideration of circulation improvements.
Member Bremer stated that there should be reference to heritage trees. There was
discussion of the heritage trees and historic building on the site.
Madonna Inn Area
Member Multari suggested adding something about circulation and infrastructure
planning to indicate how the area is accessed. He noted that there was discussion a
long time ago about a portion being used for residential or assisted living. Community
Development Director Johnson stated that this makes sense in terms of trip reduction
so a bullet could be added saying that the City shall encourage those uses. Member
Multari suggested saying that the City shall consider those uses to note that the City is
not ready to commit to it. Member Multari stated that this new bullet should indicate that
new residential or assisted living projects would be required to hook up to city water if
the City annexes this area.
Member Meyer stated he was concerned about the larger area around the Madonna
property which is in the City's sphere of influence but outside the city limits. Member
Multari stated that if this area was annexed, it should be made clear that the purpose is
to protect open space. Member Meyer stated that non - vehicular connectivity should be
included. Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the Madonna Inn
Area will be brought back to the Task Force with recommended additions in response to
the committee direction.
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Sunset Drive -in Theater Area
Member Multari stated that the language about a full interchange at Prado Road is from
the old General Plan and probably should be changed. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry suggested referring to "needed infrastructure at Prado Road."
Member Multari stated that he does not support building offices fronting Highway 101
and he would prefer some kind of commercial or mixed use. Member Meyer suggested
using broad language that would refer to a mix of commercial uses.
Member Rowley asked why agricultural preservation requirements were taken out.
Member Bremer noted that there are two small agricultural areas. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated it was done to reflect planning
redevelopment for more urban type uses but that there is a need to be more directive
about agriculture in this area. Community Development Director Johnson suggested
adding, "agricultural preservation ", to the list of issues to be resolved in the first
sentence of the second paragraph.
Pacific Beach Site:
Member Rowley noted the need for language about traffic congestion relief. Member
Rademaker stated that the residents were concerned about cut - through traffic.
Calle Joaquin Auto Sales Area
Member Meyer stated that "connectivity to the neighborhoods to the north and to the
Dalidio Ranch area" should be about bicycle and pedestrian circulation only. The
discussion noted that there was confusion as to exactly what neighborhoods were being
referred to with the term "north." It was agreed to make reference to just the Dalidio
property.
Member Meyer stated that the public did not want to split up agricultural land with a
road. Member Rossi stated that one of the attractive features in the City is the open
space along 101 and that maybe the open space should be between the freeway and
any development. He noted that the view of open space from the freeway, including the
wastewater plant area across Highway 101, is extraordinary and that Calle Joaquin
should not be just a regular frontage road; instead, it should be routed along a different
path away from the freeway. Community Development Director Johnson noted that the
Task Force cannot solve the road location issue at this point.
LOVR Creekside Area
Task Force Members discussed using the same language about flooding and access
issues that was agreed upon for the Sunset Drive -in Theater Area. Member Saunders
wanted to include language about protection of the creek and wetlands. In response,
Member Juhnke suggested "Permanent protection will need to be addressed in
connection with proposed development." Community Development Deputy Director
Murry suggested some language that began with "Flooding and access issues must be
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resolved prior to development Medium High Density Residential." The Task Force
agreed to both changes.
Broad Street at Tank Farm Road Site
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that this area has been
identified as appropriate for commercial and offices but it may have applications for
development before this goes through the approval process.
Steve DelMartini, SLO, asked why residential was restricted to the upper floors.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the City does not want
residential to take prime spots on the ground floor. Member Brown stated that there
might be a need for some buildings that are all residential. Other Task Force Members
indicated that they supported the limitation to upper floors. Member Juhnke suggested
changing "floor" to `floors." This was accepted.
On motion by Task Force Member Rossi, and seconded by Task Force Member
Quaglino, to approve the above sections as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Airport Land Use Chapter
Member Juhnke stated that the Airport Land Safety zones described by the Airport Land
Use Commission encompass a wider area of control than the City's Airport Land Use
Compatibility Draft Report because the Airport Land Use Commission wants to keep
development far away from the airport to protect airport operations. He stated that this
has led to difficulties for the City's land use planning. There was discussion about
background information provided in the Compatibility Draft Report which was compiled
by experts and is based upon scientifically- determined technical data. Community
Development Director Johnson stated that, under State law, the City must refer the
LUCE update to the Airport Land Use Commission for their consideration as to
consistency with their own Airport Land Use Plan, after which the City Council will
consider input from the State and the Airport Land Use Commission's review, and then
can decide whether to override the Airport Land Use Plan which can be done by a
4 /5ths vote.
Member Saunders stated she is fascinated with the difference between the City
considering overriding the Airport Land Use Plan while having to be consistent with
"SLOCOG's efforts." She stated that she sees a double standard. Member Rademaker
stated that SLOCOG actually builds things, such as the LOVR interchange, while the
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Airport Land Use Commission is just making rules. Community Development Director
Johnson stated that the City does not have to be consistent with SLOCOG and that
State law is clear about the City's right to maintain sovereignty over land use. Member
Rowley asked about the City's liability in the case of an aircraft accident if the City
overrides the Airport Commission's denial. Community Development Director Johnson
stated that there would be a shift in liability but that the Draft Report's map is based
upon the crash statistics and other data. Associate Planner David noted that future
expansion of the airport has been taken into consideration.
Member Multari stated he is sympathetic with the City's efforts and understands the
Draft Report is based on scientific data but the Task Force has no way of knowing the
liability involved and the Members are not experienced at dealing with this kind of
information. He suggested forwarding the Draft Report to the City Council without either
approval or disapproval. He noted he is expressing reservation with the process, not
the content. Members Meyer and Brown agreed and stated they do not feel qualified or
prepared to deal with this.
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updates to policies 7.1. and 7.2, and the two added policies to the Council with the
statement as follows: The Task Force supports the City Council's efforts to have fact
based consideration of noise and safety zones and recommends the Council consider
the proposed airport policies and their legal ramifications.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Bird Attraction
Member Multari suggested removing this policy because it is not appropriate in the
General Plan and the City will be dealing with it in conjunction with the Chevron property
at a later date. Member Rademaker agreed because this section talks about new
facilities. There was consensus for removal.
7.7 Transit Service
There was agreement to modify this section to read "The City shall work with SLOCOG,
the County, RTA, the Airport and area businesses to continue to evaluate the potential
to extend transit service to the Airport and County areas south of the City."
New Program
Associate Planner David stated that the chapter includes a new program which
references working with the Airport Land Use Commission as they update the Airport
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Land Use Plan. There was discussion about whether to delete the second sentence.
Members concluded that this program is part of the policy discussion referenced above.
On motion by Member Multari, and seconded by Member Brawn, to include the County
Airport Land Use Plan program with the previous four policies discussed earlier for
consideration at the City Council level.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Rossi, to approve the rest of
the airport chapter as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: Task Force Member Richardson
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Sustainability
Member Meyer suggested language about the orientation of lots and the size of building
setbacks; however, the Task Force decided that this language is too detailed for the
General Plan.
Member Rowley requested a definition of "sustainable" in this context. She stated she
is uncomfortable voting on the sustainability section because the definition could
change over time and she is not even sure what it means today. Consultant Mintier on
phone defined sustainability as using resources in a way that does not compromise
future generations' ability to also rely on those resources. He noted that the City has a
grant that requires addressing sustainability and, beyond that, he would expect the City
to address it since it has become a major planning and environmental issue that
everyone is addressing today. Member Dandekar stated that making a statement about
sustainability is like talking about motherhood and apple pie and that she sees no
problem with this setting the larger goal for this section.
Member Saunders stated that she wants to delete "to address consistency' in 9.2 to
remove any presumption of the City being required to be consistent with SLOCOG's
"efforts." Member Juhnke suggested using "to determine consistency' which was
accepted.
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Member Saunders stated that striving for consistency with SLOCOG is not the main
strategy for sustainability and thus the title "Sustainability Strategy' bothers her. The
Task Force agreed to change this policy title to "Sustainability Coordination."
Member Rowley stated that she wants to delete the second sentence in 9.6.E about site
runoff. Member Quaglino noted that collecting site runoff is not always practical.
Member Whitney stated that she supported the inclusion of "droughbnative species."
On motion by Member Rossi, and seconded by Member Whitney, to continue the
meeting past 9 p.m.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Member Rossi stated that the goal is to create recharge, not to capture runoff lot by lot.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested this wording for 9.6.A:
"Utilize building materials and standards that use best practices."
After a discussion, Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that
language from the Climate Action Plan would be used in this section to address
program additions for PACE financing and for CCA.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve this
section as amended, with the exception of the preamble and 9.6.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve adoption
of the preamble and 9.6 as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Member Crotser
The motion passed on a 13:1 vote.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry reminded the Task Force that the
Future Fair is Saturday beginning at 1 pm.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: DECEMBER 5, 2013, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:14 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
TF -LUCE MINUTES
December 5, 2013
ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Jon
Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Michael Multari, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson,
Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson Pierre
Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Members Hema Dandekar and Rob Rossi
Staff: Community Development
Community Development
Planning Technician Eric
Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
Director Derek Johnson, Deputy Director of
Kim Murry, Associate Planner James David,
Berg- Johansen, and Recording Secretary Diane
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Approval of the minutes of prior meetings was continued.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Healthy Community
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested deleting the last three words
"as travel choices" of the first sentence in Healthy Community.
Member Saunders stated that the following program should be added: "The City will
protect and maintain its clean air and natural open spaces which residents designated
as most important to their quality of life." Matrix Consultant Rust on phone suggested
using "shale' instead of "will."
Member Crotser supported this inclusion but suggested ending the sentence after
"spaces." Member Saunders stated she would prefer the entire statement but would
accept this change if it is the wish of the other Members. There was consensus to
accept the shorter version.
Member Juhnke stated that the word "ensure" is too strong and he supported changing
it to "shall strive" in the Neighborhood Access policy. There was discussion about the
small size of the City making 10.0 unnecessary. Member Multari suggested this
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wording: "All residents should be within close proximity to food outlets including grocery
stores, farmers markets, and community gardens." There was consensus for using this
language.
Member Quaglino suggested replacing "require" with "encourage" for this program:
"The City shall update the Community Design Guidelines to require the inclusion of
communal gardens within multi- family residential developments with 10 or more units."
There was consensus for this change.
Member Meyer suggested that the City develop active design guidelines similar to that
done in New York City. He noted that the City has all of these guidelines but that they
are very difficult for residents to find because they are not all referenced in one
document. Member Rademaker noted that this could be a tool for residents. Member
Crotser noted that it could, like the Downtown Concept Plan, be a collection of ideas
that could be referred to over time. Member Bremer stated it should be in a digital form
so everyone could look at and contribute to it. Member Multari stated that this would be
more than just design guidelines because it would include infrastructure
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suggested this wording: "The City shall work with the community to develop a resource
guide to facilitate design that promotes healthy and active lifestyles."
On motion by Member Meyer, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the Healthy
Community chapter including a new clean air policy and a program to develop a
resource guide to facilitate design that promotes healthy and active lifestyles.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 12:1 vote.
Member Rowley stated that she would prefer the motion to be simpler.
Review and Amendment
Member Saunders suggested replacing "at least" with "about" in 11.1 Comprehensive
Reviews so that it would not be such a strong mandate. There was consensus to
approve this change.
Implementation
12.9 Public Planning
Member Saunders expressed concern that the wording in 12.9 Public Planning requires
only a minimal effort to provide public notice to residents who may be affected by City
decisions and actions. She stated there is a need to address how to stimulate and
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encourage public participation and that simply providing opportunities for participation is
not enough. She also noted the need for staff to use plain English in public notices and
not just legal language. Community Development Director Johnson stated that the City
is developing a public engagement manual for City staff that will deal with this. Member
Saunders stated that the City Council keeps coming back to "early and meaningful'
when discussing public notice. She also noted that some communities have other ways
for citizens to participate beyond public speaking, such as accepting written comments
during meetings.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry suggested this wording: "...the City
shall provide early and meaningful notice in order to stimulate and encourage
community engagement and provide ample opportunity for community input to decision -
makers. "
Member Goetz stated that maybe there should be a program included about
encouraging public participation. Member Richardson stated that the applicant needs to
understand what the timeline is in order to make plans for a project and that the public
notices have been easy to understand. Member Quaglino noted that most residents
probably do not understand that staff reports can be accessed online. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that public notice is actually much broader
than just the postcard notifications sent to residents. Member Bremer stated the City
should look at newer ways to engage people. Community Development Director
Johnson stated that the City is moving toward more dynamic ways to engage the public
but that it is a balancing act meeting the needs of the applicants and the public.
Member Multari stated that in another 5 -10 years much of what is done in person will be
done on online with emerging social media which means younger people will participate
more and the bias toward older people will be reversed.
Member Meyer stated the City should consider including the Downtown Concept plan
along with the other listed examples of when the City will engage the community. The
Task Force agreed to add the example to the Public Planning policy.
12.10 Environmental Review
There was a discussion about the list of features to be examined in 12.10. Members
expressed strong dissatisfaction with the wording in 12.10. It was noted that the
language is outdated and does not really reflect CEQA today. Several members stated
that there should be a general summary in plain English so the public could understand
the process and that the City wants resident participation. Other members stated that
some needed documents are left off the list of features to be examined. Member
Multari suggested this wording for the first sentence of 12.10: "Environmental review is
the way the City complies with CEQA." He stated he had no problem leaving the rest of
the paragraph in because it gives comfort to anyone who reads it. Other suggestions
included addressing the list by saying "The features to be examined will include, but are
not limited to," and deleting the second sentence about the two common types of
environmental documents and rearranging the order of the sentences. Member
Saunders noted that the list of features in 12.9 contained some not in 12.10. She
suggested including all of them. Member Goetz agreed.
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Community Development Deputy Director Murry summarized the suggested changes to
12.10: "Environmental review is the way the City complies with CEQA. When
considering proposals for a major development, the City must conduct an
evaluation.... Features examined will include but are not limited to..." followed by the list
of features to be examined; delete the two common types of documents sentence; and
add a sentence about the City being committed to the environmental review process.
Member Juhnke stated he was not sure CEQA should be included in 12.10 because it
may not be there in the future. Member Saunders agreed and stated that this is
something residents want done whether or not CEQA is in effect. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry suggested changing the wording to read "The
purpose of the city's environmental review process is to develop and maintain...." which
would remove reference to CEQA. The Task Force agreed to this wording.
12.11 Communication
Member Crotser stated that the types of communication should be broadened to include
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communication than just letters and discussion. Member Multari stated that the title
should be "Interagency Communications." Community Development Deputy Director
Murry suggested this wording: "When the City communicates, from the Council to
informal staff conversations, those communications will be based upon the goals and
policies expressed in the General Plan." This wording was accepted.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve the
Review and Amendment and Implementation sections as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
LUE Introduction and Goals
Member Rowley suggested that "LUCE' be spelled out in the third paragraph of the
Introduction.
Member Whitney asked why the second sentence of the Housing Element bullet point
had been struck from the Introduction. There was consensus to leave this sentence in
the Introduction.
There was discussion of whether there was a need to include a description of all
Elements in the bullet points. Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated
that language for this would have to be developed and that all the Elements are
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designed to work together with each having equal standing. There was consensus to
make the following changes to the Circulation Element bullet point of the Introduction:
delete the second sentence of the first bullet point, include language about
"opportunities and deficiencies" in the first sentence, and replace "complement" with
"work with".
There was consensus to accept Member Meyer's suggestion to delete "existing" in the
Noise Element bullet point.
There was consensus to strike "and a substantial update to airport safety policies and
programs" in the Safety Element bullet point.
Member Saunders suggested deleting "While" at the beginning of the Conservation and
Open Space bullet point. Member Rademaker noted that this bullet point also deals
with cultural resources. Member Saunders stated that "complements" should be
replaced with "works with and incorporates." Member Crotser supported keeping this
bullet point brief and simple by not listing the concepts such as buffering. Member
Juhnke suggested using "amenities and resources" as it is a broad statement and
covers all possible concepts. Member Saunders supported ending the first sentence
after "in detail." Community Development Deputy Director Murry summarized the
changes discussed with this wording: "The Conservation and Open Space Element
addresses protection of open space amenities and resources in detail. The LUE works
with this element and incorporates concepts such as clustering and buffering open
space areas in order to enhance their protection." It was agreed to delete the last
sentence in the Conservation and Open Space bullet point. Member Saunders stated
that it is misleading not to have the term "natural included.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the
LUE Introduction and Goals as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Richardson, to approve the
following existing wording for the last paragraph of the Introduction: "Policies in the
Land Use Element and the General Plan Land Use Diagram are designed to be
consistent and complementary with all other General Plan elements."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley and Saunders
RECUSED: None
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ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 11:2 vote.
Public Participation
Member Whitney stated that the limits on how often the General Plan can be amended
seem vague. Member Brown suggested noting that the limits are set by State law.
There was consensus for language that states "though State law governs how often it
can be amended in any one year" for the last phrase of the third paragraph of Public
Participation.
Background to the 1994 Land Use Element
Member Goetz stated that "The discussion is still valid today' is confusing and needs to
be referenced as being about the 1994 update. There was consensus to use this
wording: "The following represents the historical perspective of the 1994 update." and
put the language that follows insidc quotation marks.
Background to the 2014 Land Use Element
Member Rowley stated that referring to the latest ongoing LUCE update as the most
comprehensive since 1994 might not be accurate. There was consensus for using
"While the City amended its.... most comprehensive since 1994" and for changing the
reference to the current update from "2035' to "2014" to avoid confusion.
There was consensus to remove "robust" from the last sentence of the second
paragraph. Member Rowley stated she would put a period after "program" in the last
sentence or just say "the LUCE Task Force and numerous other outreach efforts."
Member Crotser stated that, since people tend to forget all that was done, and that
there was a robust effort, this document should include the specificity of the City's
efforts. Member Bremer noted that the list shows that not everything was done by staff.
There was discussion regarding whether the workshops were "well - attended' that this
term should be deleted. Member Meyer noted that the Task Force does represent a
cross - section of the City's residents. There was discussion about how to describe the
Task Force Members and suggestions such as "geographically diverse" and "from
various areas" were put forth.
Community Values
Member Rademaker suggested deleting "As the 1977 element noted" from the first
sentence.
Member Rowley stated that the vote about the Water Reliability Reserve should be
added to the bulleted list. Member Juhnke suggested adding another vote taken in the
early 1990s about open space. Member Goetz stated that the Measure J vote should
be included if the votes by City residents could be separated from the countywide votes.
Member Saunders stated that including countywide voting measures would make the
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list very complicated. Member Meyer suggested referring generally to the voting record
but Member Rademaker stated that there should either be a complete list or no list at all
and that if this is changed, then the preamble would have to be modified to be
consistent.
Member Rademaker suggested replacing "again and again" with "consistently."
Member Crotser suggested changing "expressed strong community values" with
"expressed a preferred set of community values" in the first paragraph. He stated that
he agrees the list should show all sides of the issues.
It was agreed that staff has direction to work on revised language for Community
Values.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the reference to "2035' here
and in the rest of the LUE would be changed to "2014" to be consistent.
Member Saunders stated that she wants to delete "crime" on the third line in the second
underlined paragraph because it was not the top concern on the surveys. Member
Meyer stated that crime is a big issue with people, especially downtown. Other
members preferred to retain "crime" but wanted to add percentages for all of the
concerns from the survey.
In relation to the statement "there has been continued, incremental degradation of the
natural environment expressly valued by residents of San Luis Obispo" in the paragraph
directly below the list of reductions in quality of life, Member Goetz asked if the views
expressed in the 1994 survey still represent the community today. Community
Development Deputy Director Murry stated that this was a conclusory statement about
degradation from the 1988 survey. Member Goetz stated he does not think this reflects
current views and should be deleted. Member Whitney stated that it should be left in as
a statement of view from the 1994 update. Members discussed how best to compare
the information from the 1988 survey to the 2012 community survey. Member Juhnke
stated that the quote from the 1994 survey, the 2012 statistical results, and then the
conclusory statements do not work. Community Development Deputy Director Murry
stated that the City Council gave direction to use a similar survey to that of 1988 to
provide some continuity, and that similarities are apparent but that direct comparison
isn't possible.
There was consensus to move the sentence moving the sentence about degradation to
the historical section and to present the community surveys in a more graphic form to
allow an easier comparison between 1988 and 2012.
Member Multari stated that it is a problem that the questions and methodologies were
different. He stated that the way it is presented is fair and that the story should just be
told. It was agreed that staff has direction for modifying this section. Members
Rademaker and Saunders stated that if the questions are different, there cannot be a
comparison. Member Multari suggested leaving out the conclusions to avoid argument
about interpretation.
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On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to send this section
back to staff for rewriting including presenting the information in bullet points without
includina conclusions.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
New LUE Goal
Member Brown proposed this new goal: "These policies and programs shall serve as a
blueprint, guiding the City and its various entities in priority setting and resource
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the timing of implementation, but shall not change the goals and intent."
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Whitney, to adopt this new
goal as part of the LUE update and place it as the second point under Approach to
Planning in the Introduction for Community's Goals.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
Member Goetz stated that the main change since 1994 has been the growth in
awareness of climate change and the subsequent adoption of the City's Climate Action
Plan. He supported adding a goal that reflects that plan in Community's Goals,
Environment. He suggested this wording: "Create compact mixed use neighborhoods
that locate housing, jobs, recreation and other daily needs in close proximity to each
other." Member Rademaker added "maintain existing and...."
On motion by Member Goetz, and seconded by Member Crotser, to insert this language
in the Citv Form section.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, and Richardson
NOES: Task Force Members Rowley, Saunders and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
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The motion passed on a 10:3 vote.
Member Whitney stated she opposed this motion because this is already in the Climate
Action Plan.
Member Rowley expressed concern that the references to maintaining "a compact
urban form" do not make this language specifically for new development. She stated
she would not like to see the concept applied to established neighborhoods and that it
does not seem appropriate for the City's LUE.
On motion by Member Crotser, _seconded by Member Rademaker, to add a new bullet
to Community's Goals Environment about encoura_qing ener gy efficiency and practices
in the City's urban design.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
The motion passed on a 13:0 vote.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve the
remainder of the section as amended and with the direction given to staff.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Juhnke, Meyer,
Multari, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
NOES: Task Force member Rowley
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Members Dandekar and Rossi
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: DECEMBER 10, 2013, 6 P.M., IN THE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MAIN CONFERENCE ROOM, 919 PALM STREET.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:54 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
SAN LUIS OBISPO
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ROLL CALL
Present: Task Force Members Walter Bremer, Russell Brown, Chuck Crotser, Hema
Dandekar, Jon Goetz, Dave Juhnke, Matt Quaglino, Chris Richardson, Rob
Rossi, Sandra Rowley, Carla Saunders, Sharon Whitney, Vice - Chairperson
Pierre Rademaker, and Chairperson Eric Meyer
Absent: Task Force Member Mike Multari
Staff: Deputy Director of Community Development Kim Murry, Deputy Director of
Public Works Tim Bochum, Principal Transportation Planner Peggy
Mandeville, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA:
The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES:
Minutes of November 25, 2013 were approved as presented.
Minutes of November 26, 2013 were approved as amended.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
Land Use Element: Introduction
In response to suggestions by Member Rowley, the following changes were accepted
by the Task Force:
• The deleted second paragraph of Public Participation on page 28 of the
December 10, 2013, Transmittal Memorandum was reinstated and moved to
Background to the 1994 Land Use Element.
• "recognize changed conditions" was replaced with "respond to any changed
conditions" in the second paragraph of the Background to the 2014 Land Use
Element on page 29.
• A list of the outreach efforts will be added to the same paragraph on page 29.
The Task Force also agreed to include the Measure Y vote in the listing of ballot
measures on page 30 as suggested by Member Juhnke and to list the three separate
votes on the Marketplace Project in 2005 on page 30 as suggested by Member
Saunders.
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Member Saunders noted that the percentages are missing for "natural environment' and
"crime" in the second paragraph of page 31. It was agreed to include them.
Member Saunders stated that "environmental' should be included in the sentence
above the Facilities or Services chart on page 31 of the transmittal memo. The Task
Force did not confirm this addition.
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Brown, to approve the
the following sections of the Introduction to the Land Use Element in the December 10,
2013, Transmittal Memorandum as amended: Public Participation, Bagkground_tothe
1994 Land Use Element, Background to the 2014 Land Use Element, Community
Values. Preamble to the Land Use Element and San Luis Obispo's Vision.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Land Use Element: 6.3.1.1 Madonna Inn Area
Member Rowley asked about the proposed location for the walking and biking paths in
6.3.1.1.5 on page 33 of the December 10, 2013, Transmittal Memo. She stated that
assisted living and senior housing residents would not get much use out of these paths.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the goal is to connect this
area to the existing network of paths. She noted that active seniors would use the
paths. Member Juhnke suggested adding "as appropriate" between "provided" and "to"
in point 5 which was accepted by the Task Force.
Member Meyer suggested adding "including areas outside the Urban Reserve Line" to
the second paragraph above the numbered points after "hillsides" and before "are" on
page 33 of the Transmittal Memo.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and second by Member Brown, to approve 6.3.1.1
Madonna Inn Area as amended.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
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Figure 1: County Land Use Designations Map (p.4) and Land Use Designations
Outside the LUCE Planning Sub -area (pp. 34 -36)
During a discussion of the Land Use Designations, Member Juhnke questioned the
need to specify any density for Open Space. Community Development Deputy Director
Murry stated that specifying density provides policy direction to staff when responding to
development referrals from the County. She also pointed out that the City uses the
Open Space designation for resource protection but that dedications often are paired
with the owner retaining some development potential. Member Juhnke stated that
areas designated within Open Space for housing should be designated as Residential
Rural to indicate that some development is possible. Member Goetz stated that
easements are sometimes retained by owners of land designated Open Space for a
family home which is an incentive to get people to put property into a conservation
easement. Member Quaglino added that there would not be much land dedicated to
Open Space without this. Member Crotser stated that he agreed with Member Juhnke
and added that if the vision for land use is open space, then the density designation
should be eliminated. He stated that he also agrees with Member Quaglino.
Member Brown suggested adding "if there are underlying easements, the maximum is
one dwelling per 20 acres."
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to eliminate any
reference to density for this counter open space land.
AYES: Task Force Members Crotser, Juhnke, Rademaker, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Dandekar, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino,
Richardson, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion failed on a 4:9 vote.
Member Bremer stated that the designations Open Space and Agriculture cannot be
compared and that he does not want Open Space be without a density designation.
Community Development Deputy Director Murry stated that the City's General Plan
cannot supersede the County's jurisdiction but that having a density for these open
space areas would provide direction in negotiating with the County in the hope the
County would take a more conservative approach.
Member Rademaker suggested putting the designation UAG ahead of UOS in the chart
on pages 34 -36 of the Transmittal Memo.
On motion by Member Juhnke, and seconded by Member Brown to define a maximum
density for each area, indicate that there is a presumption of no housing in open space,
and place UOS after UAG in the chart on pacles 34 -36 of the December 10, 2013,
Transmittal Memo.
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AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
On motion by Member Brown, and seconded by Member Quaglino, to approve as
presented the County Land Use Designations Map (p.4 of the Transmittal) and Land
Use Designations Outside the LUCE Planning Sub -area (pp. 34 -36 of the Transmittal)
with the amendments made in the prior motion.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Circulation Element: Introduction, Goals and Objectives
On motion by Member Rademaker, and seconded by Member Crotser, to approve the
following new goal in the Circulation Element: Introduction Goals and Objectives:
"Support the development and maintenance of a circulation system that balances the
needs of all circulation modes."
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Circulation: Figure 1 Modal Split Objectives
Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum explained that the numbers listed are
estimates that will be refined through modeling the data and that both resident trips and
trips originating outside the City will be included. He stated that the City is using the
most up -to -date modeling available and that, like Boulder, Colorado, a leader in modal
shift, the focus is on reducing single occupant vehicle trips to attain maximum capacity
on the City's streets while keeping streets as narrow as possible. Transportation
Planner Mandeville noted that the current objectives shown in Figure 1 are aggressive.
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Member Juhnke stated that he cannot approve a huge shift in the modal split because,
without real numbers in Figure 1, he does not know what supports that shift. He stated
that he wants to see what a realistic goal is by looking at real numbers and that the
matter was specifically continued from an earlier meeting so that staff could provide
actual numbers. He expressed great disappointment that the matter has been brought
back to the Task Force without actual numbers or data to support the proposed modal
shift objectives, even though staff has stated that they have such actual numbers in
their possession. Members Rowley and Rademaker agreed. Transportation Planner
Mandeville asked if the Task Force preferred modal split objectives in the Circulation
Element or to perform the modeling to see what mode split is needed to achieve goals.
Member Crotser supported being ambitious about changing the modal split.
Public Comments
Blaine Morgan, SLO, stated that Eugene Jud has expressed concern about not using
the latest model. Dan Rivoire, SLO Bike Coalition, stated that the Bike Coalition
endorses the modal split objectives and the language for transportation funding as the
best way to achieve the build out of a safe network of biking and walking paths that will
give the City a great quality of life. Grace Morgan, SLO, supported the modal split
objective and the funding goals. Anne Wyatt, SLO, and Pete Schwarz, SLO, also
strongly supported both.
Committee Comments
Member Crotser stated the objectives are ambitious but may well be exceeded not too
far in the future. He presented a motion to approve Figure 1 Modal Split Objectives as
presented but later withdrew the motion.
Member Rademaker stated that the concern is linking the modal split numbers in
absolute terms to the funding because it would make big changes in the way the
transportation funds are spent. Member Crotser agreed.
Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum stated that the language about funding should
allow for flexibility.
Member Meyer stated that he has heard from residents that biking is the most important
priority and that he will strongly support developing the bike network. Member Crotser
agreed it is better to "soften" the numbers on the other modes and provide more
flexibility. Member Rademaker stated that it will be difficult to break out the funding for
bicycles, pedestrians and vehicles when building something like a roundabout. Member
Saunders asked what the surveys have said about traffic. Community Development
Deputy Director Murry stated that traffic congestion was mentioned as one of the top
concerns in both the 1988 and 2012 surveys. Member Brown supported the objective
for bicycles but expressed concern about leaving the rest of the decisions to be based
on trends because trends are always changing. He noted that the Task Force has
discussed being ambitious about the modal splits and that there is a need to be specific
about the Task Force's presumptions on this subject.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to approve
modification of the modal share splits to be 50% for vehicles. 10% for public transit.
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20% for bicycles and 20% for walking, car pools and other forms; and also to direct staff
to provide more data to the Planning Commission.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino,
Rademaker, Richardson, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar, Juhnke, Rowley, Saunders, and Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 9:5 vote
Members Juhnke and Saunders stated that their no vote is based on frustration about
not having the data to back up the modal splits. Member Saunders stated that she
regretted not having the opportunity to vote just on the bicycle share.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Bremer, to approve Figure 1
Modal Split Obiectives as presented except for the changes to the modal split approved
in the last motion.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Goetz, Meyer, Quaglino,
Rademaker, and Rossi
NOES: Task Force Members Dandekar, Juhnke, Richardson, Rowley, and
Whitney
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Task Force Member Multari
The motion passed on a 8:5 vote.
Member Brown stated that he was concerned that Task Force members might not
understand that the minimum standard D for bicycle paths in the Bike Plan applies only
to bike routes and not to every street in the City. He noted that if there was confusion
about this, he would be happy to explain at the Planning Commission meeting.
New Policy: Residential Street Impacts
Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum stated that this new policy is an attempt to
come up with a way to amend current traffic impact guidelines to include residential and
commercial new development. He explained a study would result in impact fees that
would be used for mitigations in the affected area.
Member Quaglino expressed concern that infill on a single lot in an established
neighborhood might generate impacts and fees for mitigation. Deputy Director of Public
Works Bochum stated that the City wants to encourage infill. He stated that this kind of
development review would only be done in an established neighborhood if there is a
neighborhood traffic management project in the area where new development was
proposed.
Member Meyer stated he is concerned about protecting residents on residential
collector streets because the third paragraph of this policy allows the maximum traffic
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volume to be changed when traffic exceeds the limit. He stated he prefers the old
model because this one leads to a slow degradation in quality of life.
Member Quaglino asked if these impact fees would be in addition to those currently in
place. Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum stated that this policy would be applied
project by project and is a new concept not used in any other city. He noted that "work
with the affected neighborhood" in point three means that the City would try to
determine mitigations by working with the neighborhood. Member Richardson stated
that he does not know how the 5% in paragraph three was selected and that it appears
the builder would build and sell, and then figure out what is owed to the City for
mitigation. Member Rossi stated there is a need to support land uses that encourage
people to live close to services and imposing this kind of policy discourages
development to achieve this. Member Meyer stated that if the traffic volume in a
neighborhood is at the maximum limit, then traffic calming measures could result in
moving the traffic to other neighborhoods.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that this new policy is much more
specific and onerous while the original one is more general. She asked the Task Force
to provide direction. She noted that the first sentence in the original policy, 7.1.2 on
page 2 -32, is recommended for deletion.
Member Rowley suggested that the new policy's third paragraph be modified to read
"For residential streets already operating at or over the threshold, the City will take
measures to control traffic." She noted this would remove reference to "5 %."
Members Meyer and Quaglino stated that a developer of a single infill lot should not be
penalized. In response, Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum asked if the Task
Force wanted to come up with a project size that would not be considered to have an
impact. Member Meyer suggested that requiring a project with a density greater than
five units be subject to this policy would give direction to developers.
Member Dandekar suggested reinserting the first sentence in 7.1.2 because it is more
general but does say something will need to be done if standards are exceeded.
On motion by Member Richardson, and seconded by Member Dandekar, to delete the
new policy. and replace it with the first sentence of the old Ian ua e: "The Citywill
undertake measures to control traffic in residential areas where traffic speeds or
volumes exceed standards set by policy 5.2.
AYES:
Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES:
None
RECUSED:
None
ABSENT:
None
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
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Description and Standards for Figure 2
Member Goetz noted the need for a correction at the end of Note 1 —add "to" before
"15 %."
Deputy Director of Public Works Bochum stated that "desired speed' is the speed at
which people are actually driving or less and is not the same as the State -set speed
limit. Member Meyer stated that streets should be designed so vehicles go slower than
the State speed limits.
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded by Member Rademaker, to remove
"desired" where it appears in the Circulation Element description table.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
Member Rowley stated that the sentences struck out in Note 1 should be retained and
wording should be added to indicate that the traffic counts are done when Cal Poly is in
session. She also noted that "annual average" in Note 2 is not very informative.
Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville stated that it does help with comparisons to
any one day of traffic. Members Meyer and Rademaker stated they approved of Note 2
as presented.
As requested by Member Rowley, the Task Force agreed to retain as part of Note 3
"Changes to the classification of any street shown on Figure #2 will require amendment
to this Circulation Element."
On motion by Member Crotser, and seconded _by Member Rossi, to approve the
Description and Standards for Figure with the following changes: retain the sentences
struck out in Note 1, add wording to indicate that the traffic counts are done when
schools are in session correct the end of the last sentence in Note 1 to read "up to
15%," delete "desired' in the Circulation Element table and define the street segments
of Broad Street.
AYES: Task Force Members Bremer, Brown, Crotser, Dandekar, Goetz, Juhnke,
Meyer, Quaglino, Rademaker, Richardson, Rossi, Rowley, Saunders, and
Whitney
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: None
The motion passed on a 14:0 vote.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
SET TIME FOR NEXT TF -LUCE MEETING: JANUARY 15, 2014, 6 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary