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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES
December 15, 2014
ROLL CALL:
Present: Commissioners Patricia Andreen, Ken Curtis, Suzan Ehdaie, Amy
Nemcik, Allen Root, and Chairperson Michelle McCovey -Good
Absent: Vice -Chair Greg Wynn
Staff: Senior Planner Pam Ricci, Senior Planner Phil Dunsmore, Senior Planner
Brian Leveille, and Recording Secretary Diane Clement
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA: The agenda was accepted as presented.
MINUTES: The minutes of December 1, 2014, were approved as presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON - AGENDA ITEMS:
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. 1327 Osos Street. ARC 96 -13; Review of revised plans for a mixed -use project
with nine condominium units and 8,000 square feet of office space in the Old Town
Historic District; R -3 -H, O -H zone; Mission Medical, LLC, applicant. (Pam Ricci)
Senior Planner Ricci presented the staff report, recommending adoption of the Draft
Resolution which recommends that the City grant final design approval to the project,
based on findings and subject to conditions.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
There were no comments made from the public because public comments were made
at the Cultural Heritage Committee meeting immediately preceding this meeting on the
same date, December 15, 2014, with the Architectural Review Commissioners in the
audience.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Andreen stated that this is a difficult building on an odd lot in a neighborhood
with mixed styles. She added that the ARC did not disregard the recommendation of
the CHC, but felt the previous design was compatible, especially on Osos Street where
a lot of work was done to make it compatible with the church. She stated that she still
thinks the previous design was compatible but if the current design satisfies the
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neighbors, is economically feasible, and can be tweaked to reduce the mass on Morro
Street, she accepts it because of the need to provide more housing downtown. She
added that she does not love the new building and thinks there should be more room for
a clean, crisp contemporary design that respects the neighbors.
Commr. Curtis stated that his understanding is that the ARC is providing a
recommendation to the City Council which is not typical of the ARC.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that is correct.
Commr. Curtis stated he found the new design to be not as positive as the first one,
primarily in regard to the subterranean parking in the first design, which helped the
scale, height, and bulk. . He noted that he agrees with Commr. Andreen about the
design and that the prior plan was more sympathetic to and focused on the details of
the church. He added that the colors for the new building are a little too heavy and not
consistent with the lightness and detailing on the church. He noted that he has
expressed misgivings from the very beginning about the mass and scale of this project
and is willing to consider some modifications to the massing on the Morro Street side.
He added that he finds the marriage of faux Italianate and faux Craftsman to be a bit
awkward in the overall project but has no suggestion to overcome that.
Commr. Root stated that the items on the table are the decks, the massing on Morro
Street, and the massing overall. He noted that it is tricky to do a mixed -use project in a
residential neighborhood and there is an economic component that enters into the
viability of a project. He observed that in this most recent design, it looks like there is a
considerable amount of roof between the edge of the roofs and the decks. He added
that there is a precedent for roof decks on Islay Street. He stated that the design
previously approved by the Commission did a fine job of honoring the church while not
calling attention to itself but that the skin that has been proposed has details that directly
address the guidelines so it is an easier fit and more people will like it. He stated he is
in favor of approving what has been presented.
On motion by Commr. Andreen to recommend adoption of the Draft Resolution which
recommends that the City rant final design approval to the ro'ect based on findings
and subject to conditions, including consideration for reduction of the mass on the Morro
Street side, if appropriate, and directing the applicant to use a lighter-palette.
Commr. Nemcik complimented the architect and stated she is fine with the Osos Street
side but has issues with the Craftsman style on the Morro Street side. She added that,
while the applicant is trying to match the houses, this style is not appropriate for the size
and scale of the project, and it looks clumsy, especially the cantilevered portion, which
looks like it is waiting to be pushed back down. She added that this style does not go
with the bungalows on the street nor do the roof decks, which she supports, go with the
pitched roofs.
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Commr. Ehdaie stated that she does not find this project compatible with the
neighborhood and the church on the Osos Street side and she is not in support of the
Italianate style. She added that she would like to see the project promote walkability so
she would prefer underground parking. She noted that walkability is in the design
guidelines. She supported reducing the Morro Street side to two stories, thereby
reducing the mass and scale and making it more compatible with the neighborhood.
Chair McCovey -Good sought a second for the motion and then a modification to the
motion.
Commr. Andreen stated that what the Commission has here is an attempt to appease
the concerns of the Morro Street neighbors. She added that she shares the view that
the building looks awkward because bungalows typically look grounded but she does
not want the applicant to have to do a redesign.
Commr. Curtis supported modification of the architectural style on Morro Street as well,
and suggested that a style more compatible with the scale and massing of the building
be used. He added that the Craftsman style does not match this scale and mass and
this design would probably not be recognized as Craftsman.
Commr. Andreen stated that the style looks like the shingle style of homes along New
England beaches which are tall and chunky, so it is a recognizable style, but the
question is whether it looks like San Luis Obispo. She added that what the
neighborhood wants is something that looks familiar and blends in more.
Commr. Curtis stated he would favor a motion that affirms the recommendations of the
CHC and that does not attempt to substitute the judgments of the Architectural Review
Commissioners.
Commr. Andreen stated she would second a motion as suggested by Commr. Curtis
and called it a wise approach. She withdrew her motion.
On motion by Commr. Ehdaie to support the Cultural Heritage Committee
recommendation to the Architectural Review Commission supporting a reduction of the
massing on the Morro Street elevation, recommending the use of the same design style
on both streets, reducing the massing and scale on Osos Street, and having it
compatible in terms of color and shading on both streets.
Commr. Andreen stated she still preferred a motion as stated by Commr. Curtis.
Commr. Ehdaie withdrew her motion.
On motion by Commr. Andreen to accept the recommendation of the Cultural Heritage
Committee recommending that consideration be given to reducing the mass on the
Morro Street side and consider additional building setbacks, and eliminate the roof
decks.
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NOTE: Commr. Andreen did not call for elimination of roof decks although it was in the
CHC recommendation.
Commr. Curtis stated that his preference would be that the actual motion includes
reference to affirming the CHC recommendation rather than all the details.
Senior Planner Ricci reminded the Commission that the ARC has the more lengthy
resolution that goes forward to the City Council and suggested it could be modified by
adding a condition saying the project shall be consistent with the CHC recommendation
and the applicant shall make further reductions to the scale along Morro Street.
Commr. Andreen stated she wanted to include a comment about consideration of
lightening the palette on Osos Street. She added that otherwise Senior Planner Ricci is
correct in stating the wording she would like in her motion.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that reference to glazing in Condition 5, second sentence,
should be removed.
Commr. Curtis stated that, to reflect his concern, there should be a condition stating that
the ARC hereby affirms the recommendation of the CHC and further recommends this
to the City Council.
Senior Planner Ricci stated it would be good to have a separate condition about the
CHC recommendation. She also suggested that Condition 3 state that the color -board
presented at the meeting was supported for the Morro Street but the Osos Street side
shall have a lighter palette to be compatible with the church. She added a reference to
the porch setback being consistent with the neighborhood pattern and architectural style
and important to the design of the project.
Commr. Root stated he is fine with the motion as stated if something can be added that
addresses Commr. Nemcik's architectural concerns about massing and bungalow style.
He stated he was thinking about houses that line the shore in Long Beach that are
Craftsman and massive so he thinks this can be done. He added he is fine with the two
different styles but thinks a further tweak is needed.
Commr. McCovey -Good stated the project would be ok if it dropped one story so it is an
issue of the massing.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that she is concerned about dictating the style.
Commr. McCovey -Good suggested a general statement about massing and style on
Morro Street side.
Senior Planner Ricci suggested wording that affirms the CHC recommendation to
reduce the scale of the Morro Street elevation and further refine the massing to better
reflect the selected architectural style.
At this point Commr. Root seconded the motion.
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Commr. Ehdaie stated she would not support the motion because she is not in support
of the architectural design on Osos Street because it is not compatible with the
neighborhood but she does support the CHC recommendation and the motion wording
about the colors.
Commr. McCovey -Good stated she was not comfortable in making the applicant change
the massing.
There were no further comments made from the Commission.
On motion by Commr. Andreen, seconded by Commr. Root to recommend the City
Council approve the promect with a reduction to massing on the Morro Street side of the
building and the suqqestion to utilize a lighter color palette on the Osos Street side of
the project.
AYES: Commrs. Andreen, Curtis, Nemcik, and Root
NOES: Commrs. Ehdaie and McCovey -Good
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Commr. Wynn
The motion passed on a 4:2 vote.
2. 1911 Johnson Avenue. ARCH - 0240 -2014; Review of plans to construct a new
four -story medical office building including a two -level parking garage consistent
with the approved Master Plan for the French Hospital Medical Center site, a
building height variance, and reaffirmation of a previously approved Mitigated
Negative Declaration of Environmental Impact; O -S zone; SLOPHA, applicant.
(Pam Ricci)
Senior Planner Ricci presented the staff report, recommending adoption of the Draft
Resolution which grants final approval to the project, based on findings, including
findings supporting approval of a building height variance, and subject to conditions.
PUBLIC COMMENTS:
Bob Canepa, SLO, stated that he lives near the easternmost entrance to the hospital
complex and that this project comes within 55 feet of his property. He noted that the
French Hospital owners have never come to the neighborhood for comments. He
added that this is a gigantic structure behind his house with a large number of windows
and the trees will take many years before privacy is at least enhanced. He stated that
he is hoping all the planned vegetation is appropriately large in size. He noted that, as
the hospital has grown, so has traffic and the number of patients and, with the
construction of the Pavilion changing the traffic pattern in the parking lot, cars are going
by at relatively high speeds in the early morning which affects the safety of his driveway.
He noted that a speed bump in the entry way, removed for parking lot repaving, has
never been put back. He stated that he wants speed bumps on the north and south
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side of his driveway because people are speeding in both directions. He added that the
photos shown by the applicant minimize the height of the hospital and he requested the
Commissioners go to the site and look for themselves.
Randy Walter, SLO, stated he lives on Ella Street in a two -story house adjacent to the
parking garage. He expressed concern about the parking garage being open toward
the homes so that car lights and garage lighting will be visible. He noted that the top of
the second story garage will be at the same level as his bedroom. He suggested
planting big trees and added that he knows the hospital has to grow but that no one has
contacted the neighbors to show consideration for their concerns.
Brian Starr, architect, stated that the applicant is happy to work with the neighbors and
plant more trees. He added that access to the top level parking will be up a ramp about
42" high and that cars will go down about 6 -7 feet to the lower level. He stated that the
parking will have walls about four feet high for both levels so lights from cars should be
totally screened.
There were no further comments from the public.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Commr. Curtis asked the architect about the possibility of putting up an open grill screen
as a decorative feature between the two levels of parking to screen lighting and noise
and that would make the parking structure look like a building.
Mr. Starr replied that he thinks landscaping can be used to achieve what Commr. Curtis
is suggesting.
Commr. McCovey -Good questioned about traffic, is there anything in the resolution that
addresses the traffic on Ella Street.
Commr. McCovey -Good suggested adding language to Condition 11 about placement
of vegetation to help buffer the two neighbors.
Commr. Curtis asked about including a condition about harmonizing the new building
with the existing structures. He stated he is concerned about individual piecemeal
projects which are improvements but do not provide a sense of an overall direction. He
suggested integrating pavement materials, lighting, etc., on all the buildings that would
direct pedestrians.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that there is a bike trail is being constructed from
Lizzie /Johnson intersection through the project. She noted that people walk along bike
paths. She agreed about the need for pedestrian improvements but noted that there
are multiple properties within the hospital complex which makes it difficult.
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Commr. Curtis acknowledged the dilemma that multiple ownership creates when it
comes to harmonizing the buildings. He questioned how someone coming to the
complex would know where the best parking is for their destination within the
assemblage of buildings and, once parked, how would they know how to get to the
appropriate entrance.
Senior Planner Ricci responded that, as each project is developed, improvements are
made and there is better signage now due to some wayfinding improvements.
Commr. Curtis agreed but noted that the coherence of the whole is a little elusive.
Commr. McCovey -Good asked if there was support to include encouragement to blend
the architectural styles with existing buildings.
Commr. Curtis stated he would like to see that in the resolution in addition to integrating
the site amenities such as exterior lighting and routes to the buildings.
Senior Planner Ricci stated it would be almost better to have this as a separate motion
in the minutes. She noted that Condition 8 talks about lighting.
Commr. McCovey -Good suggested adding that the walls on the parking structure would
block car lights from flooding into the residences.
Senior Planner Ricci suggested this wording: "Vehicle lights in the parking structure
shall be screened by the structure walls."
Commr. Curtis asked if it is possible to put planters on the upper level parking surface to
break up the view of a barren parking lot visible from the upper floors. He suggested
that would be required if it was a surface lot.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that she thinks the idea is to make the parking disappear
and that neither Sierra Vista or Mind -Body parking lots have plants. She added that it
gets complicated to plumb for water and then to maintain the plants and that the main
thing to add is fast - growing larger trees and plantings to screen the lot from the
residences.
Commr. Nemcik stated that something about the traffic and speed bumps should be
included.
Commr. Curtis stated that the speed bumps are not on this parcel and must be dealt
with piecemeal.
Senior Planner Ricci stated that maybe the applicant team can have further discussion
with the neighbors.
There were no further comments made from the Commission.
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On a motion by Commr. Ehdaie seconded by Commr. Nemcik to adopt the Draft
Resolution grantinq final approval to the project, based on findings, including findings
supporting approval of a building height variance and sub'ect to amended conditions as
noted.
AYES: Commrs. Andreen, Curtis, Ehdaie, McCovey -Good, Nemcik, and Root
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Commr. Wynn
The motion passed on a 6:0 vote.
COMMENT AND DISCUSSION:
3. Staff:
a. Agenda Forecast
• January 12, 2014 — the project on the Miner's property, the Thompkins
commercial project at Santa Rosa and Monterey.
• WEDNESDAY, January 21, 2014 — four large homes off Grand near Cal
Poly, the cafe lofts across from Railroad Square, the Homeless Service
Center at 40 Prado Road.
4. Commission: Chair McCovey -Good presented a proclamation to Senior Planner
Ricci for her service on behalf of city residents and staff.
ADJOURNMENT: The meeting adjourned at 8:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Diane Clement
Recording Secretary
Approved by the Architectural Review Commission on January 12, 2015.
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