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Tuesday, September 25, 2012
October 2, 2012 Agenda for consideration. Members of the public who were in the
audience wishing to speak on this matter were encouraged to speak during the public
comment portion of the Agenda.
Jeff Eidelman, San Luis Obispo, spoke regarding noise issues. He appreciated the
assistance and support he has received from the Police Department in the last ten
years due to late night noise in his neighborhood.
Linda Groover, San Luis Obispo, would like the Council to revisit building heights in our
city.
John Sherry, San Luis Obispo, opposed Week.of Welcome (WOW) and felt it should be
discontinued. Permanent residents are moving and transient students populate the city;
the City Council should be worried about this shift in population.
Claudia Anderson, San Luis Obispo, grew up on Slack and Longview; the neighborhood
and the City have changed. The increased noise is overwhelming. WOW should be
discontinued.
Carolyn Smith, San Luis Obispo, spoke on behalf of Residents for Quality
Neighborhoods. WOW has been hijacked by loud and drunken students. Statistics
from the police and emergency rooms should be reviewed so that a resolution can be
reached to break this cycle.
Sharon Whitney, San Luis Obispo, thanked the Council for trying solutions that should
have worked to resolve noise issues. WOW culture has to be stopped. There should
be more collaboration with Cal Poly to reform WOW and emphasize proper community
values.
Suzanne Lord, San Luis Obispo, stated the disturbances begin about 9:00pm and
continue into the early morning. WOW should be reduced; Cal Poly should provide
activities on campus and provide additional security.
Steve Barasch, San Luis Obispo, stated his objection to the current City Fee Structure.
Council Member Ashbaugh asked when the next review period will be held. Community
Development Director Johnson indicated building fees were reviewed late last year and
planning fees will be on the Council Agenda in spring 2013.
Council Member Carter requested that the Police and Fire agencies bring forward
statistics regarding WOW week.
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CONSENT AGENDA
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Tuesday, September 25, 2012
No one spoke at this time.
---end of public comments—
ACTION: Motion by Council Member Carter / Council Member Ashbaugh to
approve the Consent Calendar Items C1 thru C3 noting the amendment to the minutes.
Item C2 was previously noticed as having been removed from the Consent Agenda due
to a legal notice publication error and will appear on the October 2, 2012 Agenda for
consideration.
Roll Call Vote: 5 -0. Motion Carried.
C1. MINUTES OF TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4.2012. (CODRON /KENNEDY
GRIMES)
RECOMMENDATION: Waive oral reading and approve as presented with the following
changes: on page C1 -8, one sentence was removed from the next to the last
paragraph which was duplicative in nature. On page C1 -10 the first sentence was
reworded for clarity.
C3. RESOLUTION SUPPORTING CONSTITUTIONAL
RESTRICTING CORPORATE SPENDING IN THE ELEC'
(CODRON /RICHARDSON)
RECOMMENDATION: Adopt Resolution No. 10395 (2012) a resolution supporting a
Constitutional Amendment or legislative actions restricting corporate spending in the
electoral process and ensuring that only human beings, not corporations, have
constitutionally protected rights of free speech.
PHI.
PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEMS
THE P
NIGHT
CLUB (SLO BREWING COMPANY) RELOCATION IN THE . HISTORIC
DOWNTOWN COMMERCIAL (C -D -H) ZONE. (A 57 -12). (JOHNSON /CARLONI)
Council Member Carpenter recused himself on this issue because he owns commercial
property within the vicinity of the property at issue. He left the dais at 6:30pm.
Mayor Marx asked members of the Council to disclose any ex parte communications in
regard to the public hearing.
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Council Member Smith disclosed a meeting with project owner /developer, Hamish
Marshall and Carol Florence,Oasis Associates, informal discussions with Barbara
Wolpurt, Jack Pearl, and Dennis Johanson, Jim's Campus Camera.
Mayor Marx disclosed a meeting with project owner /developer, Hamish Marshall and
Carol Florence,Oasis Associates.
Council Member Ashbauqh disclosed he had a meeting with Hamish Marshall and Carol
Florence as well as a meeting with members of Save Our Downtown.
Council Member Carter disclosed a meeting with Hamish Marshall and Carol
Florence,Oasis Associates.
Community Development Director Johnson, and Assistant Planner Carloni, presented the
report and responded to Council questions. Capt. Staley PD answered additional
questions.
Appellant was represented by Elisabeth Abrahams and Sandra Lakeman, who read
statements prepared by Save Our Downtown Association. Elisabeth Abrahams read a
letter prepared by David Brodie. Sandra Lakeman read a letter prepared by Alan
Cooper.
Applicant was represented by Carol Florence,Oasis Associates who presented her report
and responded to Council questions. Todd Newman spoke regarding the development
process.
Mayor Marx opened the public hearing.
Joel Peterson, representing Austin Hope Winery and Hope Family Wines supporting the
development. The letter was read by Brian Goodly.
Susan Pyburn, San Luis Obispo objects to this development,
Bill Hales, San Luis Obispo, owns the building and business next door to the new
business and supports the development.
Dan Melton, San Luis Obispo County resident and SLO Veg business owner; supports
the development.
Joseph Abrahams, San Luis Obispo, objects to this development on Higuera Street, the
size of the crowds and the meaning of this business are a concern. Move it elsewhere
else and prosper. .
Elisabeth Abrahams, San Luis Obispo, 25,000 residents /business were surveyed. They
were asked if they wanted more or less bars /nightclubs 59/54% want to see less. This
project would increase bar patronage. She objects to the project.
Rodney Cegelski, marketing business owner. Proud of this development concept and
supports the project.
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Andrea Miller, San Luis Obispo, owner of Spikes, past president of Downtown
Association, Chair of Safe Nightlife Committee, supports the project.
Pepper Daniels, American General Media, supports the project.
Dave Hannings, lives in a downtown adobe on Monterey. Downtown is a delicate
balance; the scale of this project is too big. Locate it someone else.
Jennifer Wilkinson lives in San Luis Obispo County, supports the project.
Mike Kafka, resident of San Luis Obispo, customer of SLO Brew, supports the project.
Dominic Tartaglia, President of Downtown Association, supports the project.
Monte Schaller, General Manager of SLO Brew, supports the project. He used to live in
the project property and would like to see the property developed.
James M. Duenow, San Luis Obispo, spoke in opposition to the development; it's too
big for downtown.
Russ Brown, San Luis Obispo resident, spoke in opposition to the development. His
concerns included parking, and whether the project meets the letter of the law. He
stated the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
John Nguyen, eight year employee of SLO Brew; supports the project.
Todd Newman, Cayucos, spoke in support of the project. 11:00pm — 1:30am the Cal
Poly demographic.
Aaron Gomez, family owns the retail shop next door, Gold Concept, and supports the
project.
Jim Ruddel, lives in Morro Bay and owns a business in Cayucus. He supports the
project.
Warren Flaschen, SLO Brew has been positive for the community; he supports the
development.
John Spears, San Luis Obispo County, General Manager of Garden Street Inn. He
supports the development.
Elizabeth Thyne, San Luis Obispo resident, opposes the project due to the queuing via
Mission Plaza and the creek bridges.
Tim Reed, San Luis Obispo resident, touring professional, talent buyer for SLO Brew;
supports the development.
Sara McEre, San Luis Obispo, this development should not be in this location; lack of
parking will affect the neighborhoods. Why does the development have to be so big?
Ben Kulzek, San Luis Obispo, supports the development. Neighbors to the project
support it
Linda Groover, San Luis Obispo, does not support this project. Too great an impact on
Mission Creek. What are the categorical exceptions? We need an environmental
impact report.
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Sandra Lakeman, San Luis Obispo, If Save our Downtown had not paid for this appeal,
the citizens of San Luis Obispo would not have heard about this project. The Graduate
requires parking, but SLO Brew does not.
Brett Butterfield, San Luis Obispo, owner of Creeky Tiki. Looks forward to the help to
clean up and light the creek area. He supports the project.
Robert Kinports, San Luis Obispo County, supports Hamish Marshall and supports the
relocation of SLO Brew. This is an opportunity for special events.
Dixie Cliff, San Luis Obispo, I love living downtown, but have growing concern over the
increase in bars, empty store fronts, and Mission Creek. Objects to the project.
Kirstin Sherritt, San Luis Obispo, business owner of The Secret Garden, neighbor to
SLO Brew, has a few concerns. Her business faces the creek. Concerned about the
queuing right in front of her business and she wasn't contacted. She thinks there
should be an EIR.
Nicholas Bilich, San Luis Obispo, feels SLO Brew has been undervalued; SLO Brew is
a great music venue and he supports the project.
Dan Curcio, local musician and has played at SLO Brew. He has worked security at
SLO Brew events. He supports the project.
Pierre Rademaker, speaking on behalf of the Downtown Association, in support of the
project. Cited the "Rise of the Creative Class" by Richard Fish.
Don Hedrick, San Luis Obispo, asked questions regarding the differences between
requirements for The Graduate and SLO Brew.
Michelle Tasseff, San Luis Obispo, Code Enforcement Officer in Santa Maria, you can
not turn the City into a museum.
Courtney Kienow, San Luis Obispo, representing the Chamber of Commerce; wants to
see a balance between the various components
Brett Cross, San Luis Obispo resident, believes the ABC feels there is a over -
concentration of alcoholic licenses. Is this project approriate for the neighborhoods at
this time? How will you deal with the conditions of use? Use of the Plaza is the wrong
space.
Carl Dudley, San Luis Obispo, vast majority of the students are respectful and spend
money in our City. It would be nice to have another venue in the City. The Creek
transient issue will be addressed by this project.
Mike White, owner of Boo Boo Records, supports the SLO Brew project. As the primary
ticket agent for SLO Brew, it will help our business. The demographics of the ticket
buyers is diverse.
Derek Senn, San Luis Obispo, moonlights as a musician and is a patron of SLO Brew.
He supports the project.
Dan Ennis, Cayucus, enjoys coming to SLO Brew and supports the project.
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Shay Ennis, Atascadero, as a new mom, .SLO Brew is important for the development of
her family.
Rob Rossi, San Luis Obispo, supports the SLO Brew project. If you live downtown, you
are prepared to enjoy the sounds of downtown. The Mission Creek needs
redevelopment. There are encampments under the buildings at the creek. I think the
queuing in front on Higuera would be a plus, but do not object to use of the bridges.
Sandra Rowley, feels patrons of bars do not do retail shopping; parts of downtown have
become dirty and smelly. A bar on every single floor is a business and a bar that will sell
a lot of alcohol. Thinks there should be further study regarding the conditions of the
project. Objects to 6:OOam alcohol service.
Ramina Anne Bacchus, San Luis Obispo, is glad to hear the positive support for SLO
Brew.. I think this project should be mindful of the safety of the creek, parking, and the
safety of the patrons. Postpone decision until the issues are resolved and Fish and
Game have been consulted.
Kevin Rice, San Luis Obispo, supports the SLO Brew application. Understand some of
the concerns; Creek safety should be addressed. A vibrant downtown includes everyone.
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Mayor Marx closed the public hearing. Mayor Marx informed the audience that due to
Council Member Carpenter's recusal on this matter, if the vote of the remaining four
members was tied, the appeal would in effect be denied and the project would go
forward.
Council discussion ensued during which Council Members each stated their opinions
and concerns regarding the project,
Council Member Ashbaugh's comments included the issue of excess number of alcohol
outlets in the downtown; a need for improved lighting and enhancement of the the creek
area; queuing on the bridge; the scale of the project and the three story staircase on the
back of the building.
Council Member Carter spoke in support of the appeal, based on his concerns
regarding CEQA categorical exemptions; absolving the project of environment review;
the impact of another entertainment venue on the specific location; the calculations for
the parking allowance; and the need to study the impacts of the project.
Mayor Marx asked Staff to address the issue of the CEQA findings and environmental
analysis. Community Development Director Johnson and City Attorney Dietrick
responded to the Council.
Council Member Smith asserted her concerns that an influx of outside influences can
change the dynamics of San Luis Obispo and affect our neighborhoods; parking will
affect the neighborhood; safety issues regarding queuing on the bridges in Mission
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Plaza; and the desire of many members of the community to limit the number of bars in
the downtown.
Mayor Marx stated she felt Council should deny the appeal, but put a lot more
conditions on the project and continue the matter so that staff can develop those
conditions and see if we can find our way to making a project that the entire community
can get behind. She agreed with other Council Members, that if the project were the
same size or capacity, the relocation would not have raised the same problems. She
stated she has a problem with rooftop use. She concluded by stating that she did not
think she could find categorical exemptions.
Mayor Marx read from her list of ideas for suggestions to be added conditions:
• Same capacity as Garden Street
• Get rid of rooftop use
• Same conditions on SLO Brew that are in place for Creeky Tiki (especially the
related to the effects on Mission Plaza
• No 6:00 am opening on special occasions
• Alcohol service stopped one hour before the end of the show
• Containment of noise by sound abatement
• Tree replacement
• Shielding the creek with a railing; make sure lighting does not affect the creek
and the fish.
• Queuing on Higuera would be fine and not create the intensified liability and risk
on the bridges and the Plaza; not create the kind of situation where people would
return to the Plaza to congregate after closing.
• The project should be required to coordinate with the Events Coordinator for
Mission Plaza.
• Indemnification on the bridge use if the queuing remains on the bridge
• One year review to come back to City Council rather than the Planning
Commission
• The Creek is not in pristine condition at the moment because of criminal
behavior; therefore, the lighting would be an improvement.
• We need to strictly hold them to the sound levels
• ARC can look at scale and CHC can look at historical use.
Council Member Ashbaugh liked the direction of Mayor Marx's conditions and asked to
see if the date of November 20th was possible for a vote on this matter. Assistant City
Manager Codron said there was time on that Council Agenda. Mayor Marx asked if
Council had the authority to change the scope of the project. City Attorney Dietrick
provided a response.
Motion: Council Member Ashbaugh / Council Member Smith that Council deny the
appeal, the project be approved, and direct that staff come back with amended
conditions, including the following:
• Capacity for the auditorium of no greater than 550
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• Elimination of the rooftop patio
• Explore possible removal of the exterior rear stairs and incorporating them into
the interior of the building
Queuing for the concert events, both ingress and egress, from Higuera Street
(except during Thursday night Farmers Market)
• Operational issues of amplified music, tree replacement, operational hours and
other elements can be addressed in the recommendations
City Attorney Dietrick spoke to Council regarding categorical exemptions for existing
buildings. Council Member Carter asked for clarification regarding Council's capacity to
determine the use of the building and the numbers of patrons allowed on the premises.
City Attorney Dietrick responded.
Mayor Marx commented that she felt three Council Members had stated that if the
project was the same scale as the current SLO Brew, it would be approved. Further, .
she felt that Council needed more input from staff. Council Member Carter stated that
concentrated use at Garden Street is currently 741; he could go as far as 900 on the
project, but the project was currently at 1026. Council Member Smith wanted to make
sure the motion included removal of the special 6 :00 am event permits with alcohol
service time and that there be no alcohol at the 7:00 am alcohol service. Mayor Marx
wanted to make sure the motion included the same hours and conditional uses
regarding amplified music and contact with Mission Plaza coordinator as Creeky TiKi.
Amended Motion: Council Member Ashbaugh amended his motion to continue the item
and direct staff to return with a list of conditions as listed and discussed by Council.
After a discussion regarding reduction in occupancy numbers, Council Member Smith
withdrew her second.
The Motion failed for lack of a second.
ACTION: Council Member Carter / Council Member Smith motion to continue the
item and direct staff to work with applicant and come back with a proposal for reduced
capacity in consideration of the conditions discussed, such as queuing, hours of
operation, first floor operations, and elimination of rooftop use, along with other
conditions discussed by Council during deliberation.
Roll Call Vote: 4 -1 -0. Motion Carried (Vice Mayor Carpenter recused)
Council Member Ashbaugh stated for the record that he was voting in favor of the
motion, but not necessarily to hold this business to the same capacity that it has right
now. Negotiations need to take place and. he is withholding judgment on the final set of
conditions and capacity.
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COUNCIL LIAISON REPORTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
This item was continued to the next Regular Meeting set for October 2, 2012.
There being no further business to come before the City Council, Mayor Marx adjourned
the meeting at 11:13 p.m. and returned to Closed Session at 11:25 pm.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
ACTION: City Attorney Dietrick reported there was no reportable action on the Closed
Session Topic. The session ended at 11:40 pm.
Ma a Ke66dy Gn s
City Clerk
APPROVED BY COUNCIL: 10/16/12
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