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MINUTES
ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA
July 10, 1972 - 7:30 P. M.
City Hall
Present: Emmons Blake, Myron Graham, T. Keith Gurnee,
Kenneth E. Schwartz
Absent: John C. Brown
Whale Rock Commission
Present: Commissioners Ovesen, R. D. Miller, J. H. Fitzpatrick,
and Chairman Schwartz
Absent: Commissioners Wilson and D. Miller.
City Staff
Present: J. H. Fitzpatrick, City Clerk; R. D. Miller,
Administrative Officer; A. J. Shaw, Jr.,
City Attorney; R. D. Young, Building and
Planning Director; D. F. Romero, City Engineer;
R. A. Paul, Water Services Director.
Mayor Schwartz announced that the City Council had invited the members
of the Whale Rock Commission to sit in on the discussion of the Diablo
Canyon Desalter in order to hear the proposal first -hand, as the Whale
' Rock Project was an integral part of the Desalter Project.
1. Public hearing on the Diablo Canyon Desalter.
Mayor Schwartz declared the public hearing open.
D. F. Romero, City Engineer, explained that the purpose of the discussion
was the request of the County of San Luis Obispo for the City of San -LUis
Obispo to officially endorse the proposed construction of the Diablo
Canyon Desalting Plant. He briefly described what was proposed by the
State and Federal' Governments in construction of the Desalinization Plant
on the coast of San Luis Obispo County.
(See (1) Feasibility Report "Diablo Canyon Desalting Plant" by the State
of California, Resources Agency, Department of Water Resources and the
U. S. Department of the Interior, Office de Saline Water; and (2) draft
"Environmental Statement on the proposed Diablo Canyon Desalting Project"
see File No. F 814)
Clint Milne, County Engineer, for Water Projects, reviewed construction
details of the proposed Diablo Desalter Project.
Roger R. Lindholm, Diablo Canyon Desalinization Plant, Project Engineer,
explained what the State and Federal Governements hoped to develop
through the Diablo Canyon Project. He explained that the plant would
be using proven technoloby in order to be able to provide a reliable
water supply. He continued that the plant's development was more like
a research and development operation them an experiment since the State
is certain it will work adequately. He concluded that this project was
the next logical step in the development of large scale desalting project
technology. He said the plant was to be built to show the economics of
desalting.
(See Roger R. Lindholm's statement on Diablo Canyon Desalting Project in
File No. F 814)
City Council Minutes
July 10, 1972
Page 2
Mrs. Joan Rich, President of the League of Women Voters, presented a
position paper by the League of Women Voters, opposing the construction
of the Desalting Plant at Diablo Canyon.
H. Miossi, President of the Santa Lucia Chapter, Sierra Club, stated his
organization was also opposed the construction of this plant.
Katherine D. Walling, Morro Bay Environmental Association, objected to
the construction of the proposed desalter as her organization di,d not
not feel that complete studies on its' environmental impact on water,
the Coast and ecology had been accomplished.
Mrs. Davies, Morro Bay Environmental Group, stated they were opposed
to the desalter as they did not feel that complete studies had been
made on the environmental impact of the desalter.
Susan Bacthaser, South Bay Environmental Group, opposed the desalter as
they did not feel that sufficient studies had been made and nothing
should be done until these studies have been made. She also felt that
the financing plan was poorly conceived and planned.
L. Burkett, San Luis Obispo, questioned the need for the plant based on
the feasability information submitted in the report.
Dorothea P,iebel, San Luis-Obispo, objected to the desalter as she did
not feel it was needed, her opinion was that the system proposed by the
State was obsolete and impractical.
Hal Boyce stated that he was in favor of the desalter as he felt the
need for an alternate water supply for the people of San Luis Obispo
was an immediate need.
Dr. Dennis Hynes, County Conservation Committee, was opposed to the
development of the Diablo Canyon Desalter as he stated that his studies
did not show a need for supplemental water in the County for the present
population, nor for future growth. of the County. The only need for more
water was to encourage more rapid growth in the County.
R. Willett, Realtor, felt more studies were needed before the plant and
its' distribution system were built.
Jimmy Jones, Arroyo Grande, stated he was in support of building the
desalter for the jobs the construction would provide to the people of
San Luis Obispo County.
Elmer Mehelschan, Edna Valley farmer, stated that the agriculture
industry endorsed the desalter for the great need of water in this
County to upgrade San Luis Obispo crops.
Peter R. Andre, Attorney and long -time resident of San Luis Obispo County,
wrote a letter urging Council support of the development and construction
of the desalter as the County needs water for both domestic and
agricultural uses.
Dr. Jorgenson, San Luis Obispo, was opposed to the desalter on the basis
that the development of surplus water in the County would attract more
people which caused the problem in the first place. He felt more study
should be made on existing water supplies in the County and a way of
distributing it to areas of need.
Dr. A. B. Caldwell, Paso Robles., questioned the need for the desalter
for San Luis Obispo County as there are sufficient water supplies now
available in the County, only the adoption of a distribution plan was
needed. She also did not feel that water from the desalter would be
made avaii.able to agriculture on an economic basis.
City Council Minutes
July 10, 1972
Page 3
0. R. Davis" was in favor of the desalter for the economy of the County
and the jobs it would provide for construction industry.
Dr. Richard Kre.isa , Cal Poly Biologist, oppossed the development of the
desalter because of the incomplete studies made to date on the impact
this desalter would have on the environment of the coast of San Luis
Obispo County. He felt that further studies should be made on better
use of waste water over desalted water.
Mayor Schwartz declared the public hearing closed.
Mayor Schwartz adjourned the Whale Rock Commission Meeting so that the
City Council could continue discussion and make a decision to either
reject or endorse the Diablo Canyon Desalinization Project.
The City Council then discussed with Mr. [Anne and Mr. Lindholm, various
questions regarding the desalter brought out at the public hearing.
Clint Milne stated that the State had notified him that no funds had
been budgeted for the 1972/73 fiscal year, but that funds might be
available in 1973/74.
Roger Lindholm then reviewed some of the questions brought out by the
public hearing, trying to clarify earlier presentation.
D. F. Romero, City Engineer, explained that reclaiming sewer water would
be very expensive and the supply unreliable due to equipment breakdown,
power failure, etc. and he would be very apprehensive to recommend such
a program to the Council.
1 Councilman Gurnee recommended that the City Council not endorse the
proposed desalter on the basis that it was not needed and the unknown
impact on the environment and the coastline.
Councilman Graham felt their were too many unanswered questions on the
proposed Diablo Desalter and felt these questions should be answered
before the Council endorsed the project.
Councilman Blake stated he would support continued study of the
desalter as he did not feel all of the questions had been answered and
felt more expert study should be continued.
Mayor Schwartz agreed that the desalter studies should be continued, and
that if the Diablo Canyon Site is turned down, he felt there were sites
on the California Coast where they are more in need for water supply than
our area. He then reviewed the Planning Department study on population
and land use within the existing City limits, nad the Water Department
report on water needs for various projected populations for the City.
The Mayor concluded that there were other more adequate supplies of water
available in the County and felt that the County Supervisors should be
asked to develop available water in the County for use by its' citizens,
rather than the desalter which is only planned for a ten -year use. He
stated that there is not enough information available for him to make
a decision and recommendation to the County of the City's endorsement of
the desalter project.
Councilman Blake agreed that studies should continued in order to get all
the answers on the project and its effect on growth, the land, and the
ocean environment.
Councilman Blake moved that the County and State Department of Water
Resources continue their studies and return in eight months to present
their final report to the City Council.
Motion died for lack of a second.
City Council Minutes
July 10, 1972
Page 4
On motion of Councilman Gurnee, seconded by Councilman Graham, that based
upon the research presented at this time, the City Council takes a
position in opposition to the desalter in San Luis Obispo County unless
additional information is forthcoming. If such is the case, the Council
would be most happy to hear it.
Motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Myron Graham, T. Keith Gurnee, Kenneth E. Schwartz
NOES: Emmons Blake
ABSENT: John C. Brown
2. The City Council considered an agreement between the City of
San Luis Obispo and County Service Area No. 18 for the City to process
sewage from the Country Club area.
D. F. Romero, City Engineer, reviewed for the Council past studies made
by the City to handle possible sewer flows in the Edna 'Valley. He then
reviewed the sewage feasibility study prepared by Pomeroy, Johnson and
Bailey for the City to supply sewer service to the district which
seemed the most economical and feasible.
Clint Milne, Assistant County Engineer, listed the needs of the property
owners in the Country Club Estates area for some relief from their
sewage problems. He stated that he agreed with the recommendation in
the Pomeroy, Johnson and Bailey Report, that the best solution to the
sewage problem was for the City to be the agency to handle the sewage
on a regional basis.
Ken Jones, Engineer for the Regional Quality Control Board, told the
City Council that the local board had adopted a policy that only one
major waste water treatment plant be allowed in each region, with all
waste water consolidated in one plant. He urged the City Council to
join in this cooperative venture and if they did, the Regional Control
Board will assist the City of San Luis Obispo with procuring State and
Federal grants for future plant enlargements by the City. He encouraged
the City Council to accept the waste water from Service Area Ho. 18 as
a first step to consolidation of regional waste water treatment.
A. J. Shaw, City Attorney, reviewed the proposed agreement for exercise_
of joint powers between the City and County on behalf of Service Area
No. 18 and the State Water Resourcds Control Board. He then reviewed
the proposed agreement, section by section, for the Council's information.
Ken Jones stated he did not feel that the State would enter into the
agreement as a party as he felt it would tie their hands. He also felt
that the State would never agree to limiting the District to only the
existing Service Area No. 18. He also felt that the State would never
agree to the conditions in paragraph 5, that Service Area No. 18 was the
only area needing sewer service. He stated that the City, in the past,
has accepted Federal funds for sewer plant expansion and under these
conditions, the City must take sewage from anywhere in the region.
Russ Powell, Assistant County Administrative Officer, stated that unless
the City Council changes its' stand on the Lewis property and allowed
it to hook up to the Service Area No. 18, then the County could not
proceed with the District due to loss of the maintenance and operation
of the District.
On motion of Councilman Blake, seconded by Mayor Schwartz; that the
Mayor be authorized to sign the Joint Powers Agreement as amended with
further consideration of amendments.
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City Council Minutes
July 10, 1972
Page 5
D. F. Romero, City Engineer, objected to the adotpion of the joint powers
agreement as he had had no opportunity to study the agreement and its:'
implication on the City, and further, he had several additions he would
like to suggest.
Ken Jones stated that he would hold up the formation of Service Area
' No. 18 until the City accepts the waste water on a regional basis, and
then he will force a problem on the City, forcing the City Council to
face a large expenditure for sewer plant expansion where they will
require help of Federal grants and no grants will be approved unless
he approved them. Mr. Jones stated he would no approve the grants unless
the City Council agrees to accept sewage, not only from Service Area
No. 18, but from anyone in the region who is capable of connection to
the City system.
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Mayor Schwartz read a recently adopted environmental guide line for
State agencies that seemed to be in conflict with some of the threats
and statements made by the State Engineer, Ken Jones.
Councilman Gurnee stated he felt the major problem in the agreement, as
he saw it, was that there was no provision for land use control required
to protect both the City and County. He felt that the agreement should
make some reference to land use control and development within the
City's urban reserve line.
[led Rogoway, Country Planning Director, stated that in all cases, the
County Planning Commission follows the existing General Plan adopted by
the City, which, everyone agrees, is very vague. He hoped that the new
General Plan will remedy it. He then gave several examples of the
vagueness of the plan.
Russ Powell felt that
it should be up to the
agents for the service
the existing agreement is unacceptable, but that
Board of Supervisors who are the contracting
district.
Mayor Schwartz stated it was the city's intention to accept sewage from
Service Area No. 18, as originally proposed by the property owners and
the consulting engineers, without the Lewis property, as he felt a
larger area would just add additional load at the City's sewer plant.
Ken Jones, upon question, stated that he hoped that the City would
accept the sewage from not only Service Area No. 18, but also the Lewis
property without which would make the maintenance and operation too
expensive for the smaller District 18.
R. D. Miller, Administrative Officer, cautioned the City Council to
adopt the proposed agreement in principle rather than as a binding
offer to the County until all the facts have been exposed.
Councilman Gurnee wished to amend the motion to include a condition;
that some type of land use control would be exercised by the County
Board of Supervisors within the urban reserve line.
Amendment lost for lack, of a second.
Councilman Blake withdrew his motion, the second concurred in by
Mayor Schwartz.
Councilman Blake moved that the proposed agreemtned represents the City of
San Luis Obispo's offer to serve Service Area No. 18 with the possibility
of amendments by the City and the County.
Motion died for lack of a second.
City Council Minutes
July 10, 1972
Page 6
R. D. Miller, Administrative Officer, questioned the power of the State
Water Resources Control Board to really push the City into this agree-
ment, he wondered if Ken Jones had the power to threaten the City as he
had done, regardless of equity or fairness to the City or County.
On motion of Councilman Gurnee, seconded by Mayor Schwartz, that the
City forward the proposed agreement to the Board of Supervisors as a
statement of principles of the City in regard to serving Service Area
No. 18.
Motion carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Emmons Blake, Myron Graham, T. Keith Gurnee,
Kenneth E. Schwartz
NOES: None
ABSENT: John C. Brown
On motion of Councilman Blake, seconded by Councilman Graham, the
meeting adjourned to 7:30 P.M, Tuesday, July 11, 1972 for a joint
meeting with the Planning Commission. Motion carried.
APPROVED: November. 6, 1972
ATR I CI•:, C I TY CLERK
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