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ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 25, 1980 - 7:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, 990 PALM STREET
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Roll Call 1
Councilmembers
PRESENT: Melanie Billig; Alan Bond, Ron Dunin, Jerry Munger and Mayor Cooper
ABSENT: None
City Staff: Lee Walton, Administrative Officer; J.H. Fitzpatrick, City Clerk;
Geoff Grote, Assistant City Attorney; Henry Engen, Community
Development Director; Roger :Neuman, Police Chief
F731 Police Chief Roger Neuman, on behalf of himself and the Fire Chief, presented
a contract for the Council's consideration to provide systems designed and
computer programming software for a COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM at a
cost of $96,650. He reviewed the studies made to date by the city staff
in order to arrive at use of the inhouse computer service for the effected
departments.
The proposal that has been selected by staff would operate the third environment
computer with a number 1 priority of enhancing public safety responses to
fires, crimes in progress, and other life threatening emergencies. The application
would be completely compatible with existing hardware and could provide
conservative means of entry into the overall use of computer systems. This
proposed contract is a logically and cost effective extension of the existing
high -level of communications service that the emergency services offer the
community and he requested council approval.to award the contract to POLICE
DATA SYSTEMS.'
Upon questioning by the City Council, Chief Neuman stated that he could see
no need for additional personnel to operate the new COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH
SYSTEM.
On motion of Councilman Bond, seconded by Councilman Dunin, the following
resolution was introduced: Resolution No. 4327 (1980 Series), a resolution
of the Council of the City of San Luis Obispo approving an agreement between
the Citv and POLICE DATA SYSTEMS to provide System Design and Computer Program
procurement and installation of the Public Safety Consolidated Communications- -
COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM. Passed and adopted on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Councilmembers Bond, Dunin, Billig, Munger and Mayor Cooper
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
At this time, the City Council held a public hearing to consider proposed
amendments to the General Plan of the City of San Luig Obispo.
F462 1. GP 0847 1
General Plan Open Space Element to be combined with an amended Land
Use Element.
Henry Engen, Community Development Director, presented the recommendations of the
Planning Commission for changes and additions to the open space elements and the
amended land use element of the General Plan. He reviewed for the City Council
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changes in the General Plan text being recommended to the City Council. He
continued that for several years the Planning Commission has been attempting to
resolve issues concerning open space designations and the city's urban reserve
line. Some of the issues have been founded in genuine confusion - -what do the
city's policies mean - -while others have been disagreements over what the city's
policies should be. After a series of study sessions, prompted in part by private
applications, in part by their own concerns, and in part by the council's
directive to prepare a new open space element, the commission, in April 1980,
initiated a package of amendments that would replace the city's 1973 Open
Space Element with a new one, to be combined with the Land Use Element.
After consideration of an environmental impact report and public testimony,
commissioners reached agreement on certain parts of the package of changes and
additions. These were reflected in tonight's public hearing.
The commission also decided the draft EIR, together with comments received and
staff responses, provided adequate information for the council to take action
on the proposed changes.
Mr. Engen then proceeded with a detailed review of the text changes in the
General Plan involving definitions, goals and policies, growth management
objectives, open space polices, interim open space designations, etc.
Mayor Cooper declared the public hearing open.
Vic Montgomery hoped the City Council would require new standards for development
on hillsides within the city. He felt this was an area neglected in the present
General Plan.
Star Jenkins made several suggestions for changes in the text.
Rose McKeen questioned why did the area have to do with numbers of people
1 employed. She felt making numbers.of employees was unreasonable. She supported
commerce and industry to give local children employment.
Vic Montgomery again stated that the way that the industrial . area is being
developed was very poor and would be further degradated by the plans proposed.
Don Smith felt that mistakes were made in the past in allowing too much land
to develop without adequate water and other utilities. He felt development in
the new plan should be cut back at least in half.
Roy Haas objected to heavy contols on development in the south county area.
Jan Clucas, President of the League of Women Voters, submitted a lengthy statement
on behalf of the League of Women Voters dealing with the General Plan Open
Space Elements /Amended Land Use Element /General Plan Map Amendments.
Vic Montgomery asked for clarification in the text in Paragraph 3, Line 6,
pages 1 -12, dealing with creeks and creek development.
The council asked the staff for a list of streams by name and which are considered
major and which are considered minor streams.
Glen Matteson, Planner, reviewed for the City Council the amendments to the
General Plan Land Use Map as recommended by the Planning Commission for the
City Council.
Ginny Allen stated that she supported the Planning Commission's recommendations
to conform the General Plan Line with the zoning line.
Don Smith felt that area "B" was very controversial in the community and should
have had an EIR prepared for this area before changing the General Plan Map.
At 9:05 p.m, Mayor Cooper declared a recess. At 9:25 p.m., the council meeting
reconvened with all councilmembers present:.
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Glen Matteson then continued his presentation of the amendments recommended
by the Planning Commission to the Land Use map.
Charles Andrews, Planning Commission members, reviewed some of the thinking of
the Planning Commission in arriving at their recommendations.
Rose McKeen stated she supported the Planning Commission's action on area "H ".
Glen Matteson stated this discussion ended the map changes recommended from
the Planning Commission.
Henry Engen, Community Development Director, then reviewed the Draft Environmental
Impact Report for the Open Space Element of the General Plan and reviewed the
comments from the public and staff responses and correspondences received by
the city on the EIR.
On motion of Councilwoman Billig, seconded by Councilman Bond, that the Citv
Council accept the Environmental Impact Report of the Open Space Element of
the General Plan as adequate and meeting the requirements of State law. Motion
carried, all ayes.
Vic Montgomery questioned the fact that the Planning Commission denied Item No.
8 at their last hearing and wondered why there was no report to the City Council
from the Staff.
Glen Matteson - stated that the Planning Commission had initiated the General
Plan Amendment but at the public hearing they refused to make a change and
denied their own initiative and therefore no recommendation was made to
the City Council.
Charles Andrews explained some of the Planning Commission's action on a number
of General Plan Amendments that were rejected by the Planning Commission at
their public hearings.
The City Council then directed the staff to amend the text as amended and as
approved by the Planning Commission at this hearing and bring it back to the
City Council for future consideration.
On motion of Councilman Munger, seconded by Councilman Bond, the Planning
Commission was again asked to look into review of Planning Commission Item
No. 25 initiated by them but ultimately rejected. Motion carried, all ayes.
F461 2• GP 0815
City Council considered an appeal of a Planning Commission Denial:
A request to change the General Plan Land Use Element Map, conservation /agriculture
to tourist commercial and conservation /agriculture to interim agriculture, and to
relocate the urban reserve line.
Glen Matteson, Assistant Planner, reviewed for the City Council General Plan,
GP 0815, which was the appeal to a Planning Commission denial. He stated that
Richmond, Rossi & Montgomery, representing Alex Madonna, had proposed changes to
the city's plan which would lead to tourist commercial development north of the
Madonna Inn and expansion of the city into an area now shown as open space.
After public hearing on October 1, 1980, the Planning Commission voted 3 to 2
(2 absent) to deny the proposal. The commission's action has been appealed to
the City Council.
He continued that this was not a technical denial since the majority of the
commissioners present voted in favor of the motion to deny. When considering
this area as part of the commission- initiated amendments and a private application,
several motions which would have resulted in changes to the plan were made - -none
to approve a change like that applied for - -and either failed for lack of a second
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or were not approved by the four votes required under California law for a
Planning Commission to recommend general plan changes.
The Planning Commission found the EIR for the commission- initiated amendments in
this area adequate for this application.
He continued that the EIR evaluates the amendment proposed by the Planning
Commission, not the one proposed by the applicant which is similar in area but
wich establishes.no prerequisites for urbanization. The applicant's proposal,
also would lead to immediate rezoning of the area within the city from A /C -20
and R -1 to C -T, while that initiated by the commission would require the
intermediate step of changing the plan and zoning in conjunction with a definite
plan for development.
He stated that the staff recommended that the application should be denied because
it is a speculative map change unrelated to a statement of need or development
objectives. Although, if the council wished to indicate some development potential
for the area, the plan should be amended to:
1. Relocate the urban reserve line to the citv limits.
2. Change the designation of the area between the highway and the city
limits froin:dbnservdE on /ag iculture`toiinte m =agriciultu=el(requii4ng.
a development plan prior to its eventual change to an urban designation.)
3. Establish certain basic prerequisites for its urbanization: modification
of the Marsh Street interchange; if the urban use is a potentially growth -
inducing one, findings that it can be carried out consistent with the
Housing Element and that it will not jeopardize attainment or maintenance
of the California air quality standards.
If this was done, the approach would be consistent with the recently adopted
county Land Use Element.
Vic Montgomery spoke on behalf of the property owner reviewing the conditions
of his appeals from a denial by the Planning Commission and asked for interim
agriculural uses as authorized under the zoning ordinance. He said the purpose
of the appeal was to establish some definition of what portions of the property
should be included in future planning concepts for the city and to establish
some long term objectives for use of the property. As of today, the situation
is as follows:
1. The majority of this property is designated as Conservation /Agriculture
on the 1977 General Plan.
2. The zoning of this property is roughly 50% AC -20 and 50% R -1.
3. The city water = service=e levation,7 6ariesfft6m ,- 320.+ffeet�:to�24.0+ffeet.
4. A major portion of the property (the rodeo grounds and equipment storage
yard) are outside the city limits.
5. A large portion.of the property presently outside the city limits is within
the apparent water elevation service of the city.
This could also receive sewer service via the lift stations serving the existing
development.
6. Much of this property is outside the Urban Reserve Line.
7. The vast majority of the land inside the apparent water service limit but
outside the city limit and outside the Urban Reserve Line has slopes of less than
20 %.
He continued that it was apparent that much of the property has development
' potential which is not recognized in the General Plan, even in text discussion.
The purpose of the request is to amend the General Plan to reflect this
development potential although not with the intent of immediate development.
The plan, at present, appears to place all the city potential for development
of additional tourist commercial facilities and.recreation in one place,
upper Monterey Street. and rely on expectations and rejuvenation of existing facilitie
The physical setting and existing uses in the vicinity of this project are more
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conducive to development of additional tourist commercial facilities and
recreation facilities than the upper Monterey Street area; this is especially
true of recreation activities involving significant space requirements, i.e.,
sports facilities.
He therefore requested on behalf of the property owner the following modifications
of the General Plan in order to facilitate some type of long -range planning for
the property and to reflect the true potential for future use:
1. That the area outside the present city limits but within the present water
service capability limit and with slopes less than 20% -30% be shown within the
Urban Reserve Line.
2. That the area outside the City limit but within the Urban Reserve (as
modified) be shown as Interim Agricultural.
3. That the area inside the existing citv limit be indicated as "Tourist"
on the"General-.Plan.map:_:
4. That the basic prerequisites for implementation of the General Plan
amendment requested be outlined in the General Plan text.
The intent of this request is to enable long range planning for the property,
by the owner, based upon some idea of the city's view of its potential
future use. It is the property owner's opinion that the potential does exist
for commercial use of this property within the Plan period, as opposed to the present
Plan designation of Agriculture.
Alex Madonna, property owner, explained his intended use of the property if the
General Plan was amended to Interim Agriculture including the old Bianchi house
which has been remodeled for rental, but has been unused due to the zoning
regulations. He felt that without some General Plan amendment, he could not
proceed with any type of planning to come before the Planning Commission,
Council or city regulatory bodies as it has been stated that before it can
be done you must have the General Plan amended. This is where they were at
this time.
Charles Jones agreed with the Madonna request to rezone his property to
Interim Agriculture to make use of his land.
Charles Andrews, Planning Commission member, explained the Planning Commission's
action denying this request to Interim Agriculture was primarily the magnitude
of the area being requested for amendment within the General Plan and also
without submission of a master plan for development of the property.
Mayor Cooper declared the public hearing closed.
City Staff and Council discussed alternatives to the denial by the Planning
Commission in order to allow some use of this land by the property owner and
in order to give the property owner some direction as to the council's feelings
on future uses in this area.
Councilman Bond stated he would support the appeal. He felt the property owner
should receive some official direction from the city on this property.
Councilman Munger agreed that the General Plan should be amended so that
the property owner would have some direction from the city.
Councilman Dunin would support the appeal. He felt that placing it to
Interim Agriculture would at least give the property owner some security
for preparing master plans of the property.
Councilwoman Billig felt she would rather see a master plan development of the
land within the city but could not agree with the procedure being used by the
council. She would have to support the Planning Commission's.action and deny
the appeal.
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Councilman Dunin again asked for an explanation of what actually was being
appealed.
Henry Engen stated that the appeal was: 1) to change the urban reserve line;
2) amend the General Plan to show the land as Interim Agriculture.
Vic Montgomery stated that the Interim AGriculture was being requested inside
and outside the city.
Councilwoman Billig again stated she could not support the appeal without having
a master plan filed on ultimate use of the property.
On motion of Councilman Bond, seconded by Councilman Munger, that the city
council uphold the appeal and that the land outside.the city be shown on the
General Plan as Interim Agriculture and that land within the city be shown
as CP or Tourist Commercial zone. Motion carried on the following roll call
vote:
AYES: Councilmembers Bond, Munger, Dunin and Mayor Cooper
NOES: Councilwoman Billig
ABSENT: None
Due to the lateness of the:hour;.the following items on the agenda dealing
with General Plan Amendments were continued to December 9, 1980 Council meeting.
There being no further business to come before the City Council, Mayor Cooper
adjourned the meeting to 4:00 p.m. Tuesday, December 2, 1980.
MINUTES APPROVED BY COUNCIL: J. tzp rick, City Clerk
12/16/80
M I N U T E S
ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
CITY OF SAN LUIS OBISPO
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 2, 1980 - 4:00 P.M.
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, CITY HALL, 990 PALM STREET
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Roll Call
Councilmembers
Present: Melanie Billig, Ron Dunin, Gerald Munger and Mayor Lynn Cooper
Absent: Alan Bond
City Staff
Present: Lee Walton, Administrative Officer; George Thacher, City Attorney;
J.H. Fitzpatrick, City CLerk; Henry Engen, Community Development
Director; Wayne Peterson, City Engineer; Jim Petroni, Fire Dept.;
Roger Neuman, Police Chief; D.F. Romero, Public Services Director