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SAN LUIS OBISPO
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES
October 19, 2015
ROLL CALL
Present: Commissioners Patricia Andreen, Amy Nemcik, Angela Soll, Vice-Chair
Suzan Ehdaie, and Chairperson Greg Wynn
Absent: Commissioners. Ken Curtis and Allen Root
Staff: Community Development Director Michael Codron, Interim-Community
Development Liaison Marcus Carloni, Natural Resources Manager Bob
Hill, Civil Engineer Hal Hannula, Consulting Planner Dave Watson, and
Recording Secretary Sarah Reinhart
ACCEPTANCE OF THE AGENDA
The agenda was modified to move item 2 (224 Tank Farm Road) into the item 1
position.
MINUTES
There were no minutes presented.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON NON-AGENDA ITEMS
There were no comments made from the public.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. 224 Tank Farm Road. ARCH-1407-2015; Review of the construction of a new
Verizon Wireless telecommunications facility disguised as a water tower, with a
categorical exemption from environmental review; Verizon Wireless, applicant.
RECOMMENDATION: Continue to a date uncertain to allow time to consider and take
action on the Use Permit application associated with this project.
On motion by Commr. Andreen, seconded by Commr. Nemcik, to continue to a future
Architectural Review Commission Meeting.
AYES: Commrs. Andreen, Nemcik, Soll, Vice-Chair Ehdaie, and Chair Wynn
NOES: None
RECUSED: None
ABSENT: Commrs. Curtis and Root.
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The motion carried on a 5:0 vote.
2. 2223 Monterey Street. ARCH-1992-2015; Conceptual design review of a proposed
hotel adjacent to the historic Motel Inn. Project proposes 52 one and two story units, up
to 25 Recreational Vehicles, two pools, a restaurant, and associated parking and site
improvements; C-T-S and C/OS-5 zones; Motel Inn, LP, applicant.
Chair Wynn and Commr. Soll recused from this item due to conflict of interests and left
the conference room at 5:05 p.m.
Community Development Director Codron summarized the purpose of a Conceptual
Review, noting that in these cases applicants seek feedback before the project is
presented for approval and for public notification; explained that due to the complexity of
the project, the format is altered, thus allowing applicants the opportunity to present
before providing staff with a framework for the conversation.
The Applicant provided an overview and brief history of the project; stated the project
met ordinance requirements, noting the improvements to the current design.
The applicant answered Commission’s questions regarding the patio and picnic areas
for the RV parking, indicating that each RV space would have its own picnic area, and
would have access to all of the Motel amenities.
In response to Commr. Nemcik, the Applicant noted the surface on the street would be
made of pavers and asphalt.
Interim-Community Development Liaison Carloni provided a quick overview of the
project site, recommending that the commission formulate discussions regarding the RV
Park creek buffering; stated that the City’s Natural Resource Manager recommended a
wooden rail fence with signs to address potential trespassing into the riparian area;
suggested a discussion on the Motel bungalow units, stating that the decks or patios
facing the creek area should be screened with walls or removed from the proposed
building design.
Vice-Chair Ehdaie acknowledged correspondence received by Bob Lucas; reviewed the
contents of an email from Commr. Root, expressing his support for the project; and
noting that the project meets Ordinance 1130 and setback requirements.
In response to Commr. Nemcik, Community Development Director Codron, stated the
fence would be a split-rail fence, which is the City standard design for creek corridors.
Commr. Andreen, asked staff for interpretation on the meaning of the word “should” as
opposed to “shall” in City Ordinance 1130.
Interim-Community Development Liaison Carloni clarified that the language in question
is generally designed to provide flexibility.
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Community Development Director Codron expounded on the previous comment, noting
the use of the word “should” is subject to intent; explained the intent in this case is to
preserve the residential feel of the surrounding area.
In response to Vice-Chair Ehdaie, regarding the reason for the rail fence as opposed to
a wall fence that could potentially help mitigate noise and light issues, the Applicant
stated that the Planning commission was pleased with the rail fence noting that a solid
wall was not needed due to distance, thick riparian area and the fact that RV guests will
not be using the space as a recreational area.
In response to Vice-Chair Ehdaie, the Applicant stated the studies submitted between
2003 and 2005, including a noise study, remain current; declared that a masonry wall
would be a mistake in this area and would not be needed due to the kind of activities
that would take place in the RV area, noting that noise from the highway would be
greater than the noise generated in the RV area.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Dave Garth, San Luis Obispo, affirmed his support for this project from a neighbor’s
perspective; opined the project represents a low intensity type of recreation appropriate
for this particular property, noting that he does not anticipate an excessive amount of
noise; expressed his belief that the project would be an enhancement to the city.
There were no further comments made from the public.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Commr. Andreen expressed appreciation for Mr. Garth’s perspective; voiced concerns
over the use of the word “should” in section 7 of Ordinance 1130; acknowledged the
general consensus that RV users are typically a respectful group; opined that she does
not believe this would be a major noise generator; asserted interest in seeing noise
studies; opined that this project would be appropriate and attractive, posing no major
concern with regard to the open spacing of the creek or fencing choices; voiced support
for seeing the project move forward.
Commr. Nemcik noted that the design is elegant and beautiful; stated the applicants are
heading in the right direction and have been cautious in addressing all of the points in
Ordinance 1130; opined that the split rail fence would be appropriate; indicated support
for the project.
Vice-Chair Ehdaie stated this project would add value to the community; expressed
satisfaction with the way ordinance 1130 was addressed; asserted interest in reviewing
the noise study; noted no concerns with the patio spacing; voiced support for seeing the
project move forward.
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There were no further comments made from the Commission.
The project was continued to a date uncertain with direction to the applicant to return to
the ARC for final design review. No specific directional items were provided from the
ARC.
Chair Wynn and Comm. Soll rejoined the meeting room at 5:50 p.m.
3. 1299 Orcutt Road. ARCH-0224-2014; Continued review of the “West Creek” project
design for a new residential development in the northeastern area of the Orcutt Area
Specific Plan. Project includes 172 residential units on approximately 18 acres of land;
Robbins/Reed, applicant.
Scott Martin, Architect with RRM Design Group, provided an update on the changes
made to the project since the previous conceptual hearing and addressed previous
directional items; noted adding a round-a-about which created changes in circulation
and connectivity. The applicant pointed out changes in geometry, including additional
retaining walls, based on recommendations from the Natural Resources Manager Bob
Hill; stated the project meets pedestrian connectivity based on the Orcutt Area Specific
Plan; provided a new grading plan to help balance the site and proposed implementing
innovative parking solutions such as decupling the garages from the properties and
selling the garages separately; suggested having a shared “fun car” that could be made
available for rent as well as providing plenty of long and short-term bike storage; noted
ample parking in the single-family residential area as well as on the streets near Orcutt
Road; stated the neighborhood would not be impacted by parking issues.
In response to Commr. Andreen, the applicant stated the pool would not be accessible
to the single-family dwellings due to costly ADA requirements and would only be used
by the multi-family residents.
In response to Chair Wynn’s inquiries regarding parking, the applicants noted they
would have no problem allocating some of the parking spaces in the PG&E easement
area to multi-family parking, and would have no issues for making the shared fun car or
truck available to all residents.
In response to Commr. Wynn’s inquiry, the applicants confirmed storage requirements
would be met notwithstanding the decupling concept and indicated there would be long-
term bicycle parking all throughout the site.
Applicants stated that they would like to receive feedback regarding parking, grading
and architecture.
City Consultant, Dave Watson, presented the staff report, reviewed improvements and
changes to the site-plans, evaluated directional items from the previous conceptual
review, and went over additional topographic information. Pointed out competing
policies relative to grading in the setback areas; advised the commission to establish a
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minimum number of parking spaces and to discuss pedestrian linkage; noted that staff
agrees with mixing land usage but suggested common areas should stand-alone;
expressed support for the design styles and for positioning the garages in the rear
areas; suggested focusing the conversation to the directional items from the previous
conceptual review; noted that the information gathered from this review would be
forwarded to the Planning Commission and City Council.
In response to inquiry by Commr. Andreen, Natural Resource Manager, Bob Hill, stated
that he visited the site on two occasions, in two different seasons; noted that the riparian
area was highly denuded; attested to the lack of strong concerns for the removal of
what is on site; explained that a 2 to 1 slope is steeper, indicating that it could be made
stable and has the potential for ample restoration; believes a more robust riparian
canopy could be achieved; confirmed the project is fully compliant with the creek
setback regulations as well as the setbacks specified for both creeks and wetlands in
the Orcutt Area Specific Plan; explained that the community design guidelines have
language about grading in setbacks which would be used as the policy in this case;
expressed not having concerns with erosion, asserting that the site would have a water
erosion control plan which would be monitored by the water board.
In response to inquiry by Vice-Chair Ehdaie, Natural Resource Manager Hill indicated
there are no proposed bridges on the creek.
Community Development Director Codron, noted that the specific site policy does not
require additional discussions for bridges; asserted the applicant is working with staff to
develop a two-part parking reduction strategy with a proposal that could be effective;
noted confidence in the process.
In response to Commr. Andreen’s inquiry, Community Development Director Codron,
stated the City is responsible for maintaining the streets.
Civil Enginner Hal Hannula provided an overview of the PG&E easement area; opined
that fewer pavement and parallel parking spaces might be a better use of the area.
Staff clarified that all perpendicular parking on A2 Street is additional and not a part of
the parking requirement.
Interim-Community Development Liaison Carloni clarified that the plans indicate 26-feet
back up space available for vehicles in the alleys between units.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chair Wynn acknowledged receiving correspondence from the applicant and Mr. Flores.
There were no further comments from the public.
COMMISSION COMMENTS:
Community Development Director Codron responded to questions regarding decupling,
stating it is not a new concept but a widely recognized way for dealing with the need for
single-occupancy parking; noted that the Tolosa Ranch Apartments offer parking
separately; stated that analysis will be done to see how this would impact parking.
Chair Wynn stated that the idea of decupling is good, but noted concerns about its
sustainability; suggested a need to review Principal Transportation Planner Peggy
Mandeville’s input on the matter. Also voiced concerns with R-2 guest parking.
Commr. Nemcik stated the rationale items for reducing parking are a good idea but
does believe they would warrant a parking reduction; noted that even if people bike,
they would most likely also own vehicles; voiced concerns regarding sufficient parking.
In response to Chair Wynn, Consultant Watson clarified that in the R-4 zone the
applicants fall seventeen percent below the parking requirements.
Commr. Andreen expressed apprehension over the lack of parking; opined that people
in California rely on their cars and do not change quickly; stated the gap is too far from
the normal requirements.
In response to Commr. Soll, Consultant Watson, clarified that the proposal has 160
spaces of the 194 space requirement; suggested a viable solution would be to set a
threshold and let the applicants work with Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville
and staff to develop a plan.
Vice-Chair Edhaie concurred with Commrs. Nemcik and Andreen, voicing concerns
over the reduced parking; noted being in favor of setting a threshold and allowing the
applicant time to work through the issues.
Commr. Andreen stated that a 17 percent is not an acceptable reduction.
Consultant Watson suggested reducing to a ten percent threshold, noting that staff can
include contingency plans that would allow for more parking to be created to satisfy
demand.
Community Development Director Codron clarified that the additional parking reduction
is allowed within the zoning regulations.
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The Applicant clarified that they are asking for a seven percent reduction on a project
that requires 200 spaces.
Chair Wynn expressed support for developing a contingency plan built into the parking
plan.
The Commission, having established concerns over parking, agreed to have the
applicant work with staff and Principal Transportation Planner Mandeville to come up
with a solution that could incorporate a contingency plan.
Chair Wynn shared concerns over the creek channel looking manufactured; suggested
adding bumps and pockets to add more naturalness; noted concerns with bicyclists ’
ability to ride up the steep areas.
Interim-Community Development Liaison Carloni, acknowledged concerns and
constraints due to grading; noted that staff is not against grading; stated that the goal
was to make the commission aware of those constraints.
Chair Wynn, expressed satisfaction with the grading; acknowledged the positive
direction of the project; requested to see the overall stepping of the site.
During the course of discussion, the Commission concluded there is connectivity;
suggested adding more pathways to Orcutt Road.
The applicant provided an overview of the new architectural styles, noting the addition
of a craftsman style house for which Chair Wynn and Commr. Andreen voiced support.
In response to Commr. Andreen, the applicant stated that the homeowners would have
an option to choose from a set of colors to ensure an eclectic color palate in keeping
with the San Luis Obispo style; noted that there will be trees in between the single
family homes.
The Applicant noted remaining concerns over parking; stated a commitment to working
toward the City’s requirements; voiced misperception over lack of consistency in the
requests made by the Planning Commission and the Architectural Review Commission
with regard to number of parking spaces; expressed appreciation for Commission
feedback.
There were no further comments made from the Commission.
The project was continued to a date uncertain with direction to the applicant to return to
the ARC for final design review with the following directional items:
1. Note: The ARC’s broad conceptual review of the subject project is based on
conceptual information and plans provided by the applicant. Upon full
application submittal for project entitlements and detailed review of final plans,
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the ARC may require additional changes and or modifications to the project that
were not previously known, specifically addressed, or provided as directional
items.
2. Provide all of the required information for final architectural review per City
checklists.
3. With final ARC review, provide enlarged street views with locations of any on-
street parking and frontage improvements (curb, gutter and sidewalk).
4. Provide details on the pedestrian connection to the adjoining Mobile Home Park
with final design plans.
5. Explore pedestrian connectivity from the connection of Street A-4 and Street A-
3 to Orcutt Road (between the residential lots).
6. Explore alternatives to proposed grading along the creek (especially within the
creek setback) to provide a more varied/naturally appearing slope bank.
7. Explore additional parking reduction options to be considered by the ARC with
final design review plans, based on a 10% reduction, with a minimum of 174
parking spaces (21 guest parking spaces and at least 153 resident spaces)
required unless an acceptable alternate or contingency plan can be
implemented with the final design.
8. In conjunction with Public Works review of the project, introduce extensions of
the two Park Lots 69 and 70 southerly towards A-2 Street to break up the
extent of common street parking, as a part of final design review by ARC.
9. Provide a digital model of the project to better understand the massing of
structures and relationship to topography.
10. Provide 3D renderings to illustrate the proposed use of taller retaining walls (in
particular: the tiered walls along Orcutt Road and the taller retaining walls
associated with the condo structures). Include landscaping/screening proposals
with these renderings.
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COMMENT AND DISCUSSION
1. Staff:
a. Agenda Forecast
Interim-Community Development Liaison Carloni provided a forecast of
upcoming agenda items; noting an upcoming hearing on November 2, 2015 for
222 Tank Farm, and stated there will be a conceptual review on November 16,
2015 of the San Luis Ranch Project and an appeal of a guest house at 128
Chorro Street.
2. Commission:
The Commission discussed the new format for conceptual review hearings.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 7:44 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sarah Reinhart
Recording Secretary